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« Reply #15855 on: July 19, 2021, 09:29:52 PM »
I actually think theyíve made the right call, things have to open up at some stage and I can see the logic in doing it when the weather is good and people will be spending more time outside naturally. I really think they need to bring in the no vaccine no entry to places. Too many people Iíve spoken to who havenít had the vaccine just donít seem arsed and a good few have said they arenít against it and if they had to have it to go on holiday etc they would get it. Thatís the selfish attitude really annoys me, these people arenít against it just choosing not to get it as they think itís not impacting them. Wtf is the point in the rest of us getting ours for them to hold us back from moving forward. Make the things they enjoy need a vaccine passport and youíll fairly see the doses go up, Iíd say thatís why BoJo mentioned it being a requirement for nightclubs in sept, around 8-10 weeks away, youíll see the young people vaccine numbers spike the next week or 2 Iíd say.

In the 26 counties they have the vaccine requirement from the beginning and this will encourage the laggards. The only problem is pubs taking the piss and there will be the usual total lack of enforcement. I presume private clubs like GAA clubs would need people to have vaccines also if food or alcohol is served? The GAA would need to make clear that clubs should not cheat on this.

Seen that in the south actually and tbh at the start I was against it but now seeing the attitude of people it really needs to be done, even if itís just to jan or something, more under 30s need to take the vaccine and as bad as it sounds making places no vaccine no entry is the only way some will do it, we canít go backwards we need to go forward

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« Reply #15856 on: July 19, 2021, 09:44:06 PM »
I actually think theyíve made the right call, things have to open up at some stage and I can see the logic in doing it when the weather is good and people will be spending more time outside naturally. I really think they need to bring in the no vaccine no entry to places. Too many people Iíve spoken to who havenít had the vaccine just donít seem arsed and a good few have said they arenít against it and if they had to have it to go on holiday etc they would get it. Thatís the selfish attitude really annoys me, these people arenít against it just choosing not to get it as they think itís not impacting them. Wtf is the point in the rest of us getting ours for them to hold us back from moving forward. Make the things they enjoy need a vaccine passport and youíll fairly see the doses go up, Iíd say thatís why BoJo mentioned it being a requirement for nightclubs in sept, around 8-10 weeks away, youíll see the young people vaccine numbers spike the next week or 2 Iíd say.

Apart from pubs  and clubs, I expect they will keep this for flights and require a vaccine for attendance at third level, so hopefully they'll catch most of the youth.

In the 26 counties they have the vaccine requirement from the beginning and this will encourage the laggards. The only problem is pubs taking the piss and there will be the usual total lack of enforcement. I presume private clubs like GAA clubs would need people to have vaccines also if food or alcohol is served? The GAA would need to make clear that clubs should not cheat on this.

Seen that in the south actually and tbh at the start I was against it but now seeing the attitude of people it really needs to be done, even if itís just to jan or something, more under 30s need to take the vaccine and as bad as it sounds making places no vaccine no entry is the only way some will do it, we canít go backwards we need to go forward
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« Reply #15857 on: July 20, 2021, 06:18:19 AM »
The way covid has been handled is crazy in my opinion. Its an over-glorified flu. it is mental, now that we have learned so much about it all we can do is roll out vaccines to help prevent and if that still doesnt satisfy ye then sit in the fckin house and dont leave it

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« Reply #15858 on: July 20, 2021, 06:33:08 AM »
I'm not huge on the amount of Covid restrictions in place in this country over the last 6 months, however I find what the English government are currently doing is totally insane & dangerous. A former work colleague of mine (as fit as a fiddle in his early 50's) is currently in ISU in a very bad way. Are the English off their heads or what, nightclubs packed to the rafters in doors is surely going to lead to disaster, vaccinated or not.

COVID-19 is never going to go away. We can't live like prisoners for another couple of years.

I would accept that, but is the English approach not too much to soon.

It's been too long in my opinion. Now with the roll out of the vaccines if we can't ease restrictions now when will we ever be able to? What else can be done?
Exactly, when is it not too soon? What are the criteria?

Infections need to be falling.
You need effective  test and trace
amd the borders have to be shut.

None of this applies.
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« Reply #15859 on: July 20, 2021, 07:38:40 AM »
Has anyone travelled from an amber country through Dublin back to the North? Just wondering how the tracking of the self isolation works.
No but theyíve no way to track ye afaik.

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« Reply #15860 on: July 20, 2021, 07:39:31 AM »
I'm not huge on the amount of Covid restrictions in place in this country over the last 6 months, however I find what the English government are currently doing is totally insane & dangerous. A former work colleague of mine (as fit as a fiddle in his early 50's) is currently in ISU in a very bad way. Are the English off their heads or what, nightclubs packed to the rafters in doors is surely going to lead to disaster, vaccinated or not.

COVID-19 is never going to go away. We can't live like prisoners for another couple of years.

I would accept that, but is the English approach not too much to soon.

It's been too long in my opinion. Now with the roll out of the vaccines if we can't ease restrictions now when will we ever be able to? What else can be done?
Exactly, when is it not too soon? What are the criteria?

Infections need to be falling.
You need effective  test and trace
amd the borders have to be shut.

None of this applies.

Infections were falling but as you start to open things back up they are going to increase which everyone knew. The case numbers arenít what we should be basing anything on, our most vulnerable are vaccinated and the hospitals arenít being over run with it. We canít keep lock downs on a what if basis. I know Iím repeating myself but the key to it now is getting under 30s on board with the vaccine, once that happens then we are in a great place.

Shutting the borders? Itís far too late for that, shutting the borders now will change nothing, the time for that was 18 months ago. Now we need to learn to live with it and get vaccinated and be sensible when out and about

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« Reply #15861 on: July 20, 2021, 07:53:02 AM »
I'm not huge on the amount of Covid restrictions in place in this country over the last 6 months, however I find what the English government are currently doing is totally insane & dangerous. A former work colleague of mine (as fit as a fiddle in his early 50's) is currently in ISU in a very bad way. Are the English off their heads or what, nightclubs packed to the rafters in doors is surely going to lead to disaster, vaccinated or not.

COVID-19 is never going to go away. We can't live like prisoners for another couple of years.

I would accept that, but is the English approach not too much to soon.

It's been too long in my opinion. Now with the roll out of the vaccines if we can't ease restrictions now when will we ever be able to? What else can be done?
Exactly, when is it not too soon? What are the criteria?

Infections need to be falling.
You need effective  test and trace
amd the borders have to be shut.

None of this applies.

Infections were falling but as you start to open things back up they are going to increase which everyone knew. The case numbers arenít what we should be basing anything on, our most vulnerable are vaccinated and the hospitals arenít being over run with it. We canít keep lock downs on a what if basis. I know Iím repeating myself but the key to it now is getting under 30s on board with the vaccine, once that happens then we are in a great place.

Shutting the borders? Itís far too late for that, shutting the borders now will change nothing, the time for that was 18 months ago. Now we need to learn to live with it and get vaccinated and be sensible when out and about

I completely agree. For some reason people like johnnycool & seafoid think covid will be eradicated but this is impossible. COVID will always be here and all we can do now is roll out vaccines, study the new variants and act accordingly. Talk of another lockdown i ludicrous, covid is here to stay now all we can do is deal with it.

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« Reply #15862 on: July 20, 2021, 03:58:03 PM »
Its an over-glorified flu.
Really?

Just read this account by an extremely fit 55 y.o. with no other underlying health issues, about what it did to him:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57887668

Or any of the other thousands of accounts which attest to similar.
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« Reply #15863 on: July 20, 2021, 04:03:03 PM »
I'm not huge on the amount of Covid restrictions in place in this country over the last 6 months, however I find what the English government are currently doing is totally insane & dangerous. A former work colleague of mine (as fit as a fiddle in his early 50's) is currently in ISU in a very bad way. Are the English off their heads or what, nightclubs packed to the rafters in doors is surely going to lead to disaster, vaccinated or not.

COVID-19 is never going to go away. We can't live like prisoners for another couple of years.

I would accept that, but is the English approach not too much to soon.

It's been too long in my opinion. Now with the roll out of the vaccines if we can't ease restrictions now when will we ever be able to? What else can be done?
Exactly, when is it not too soon? What are the criteria?

Infections need to be falling.
You need effective  test and trace
amd the borders have to be shut.

None of this applies.

Infections were falling but as you start to open things back up they are going to increase which everyone knew. The case numbers arenít what we should be basing anything on, our most vulnerable are vaccinated and the hospitals arenít being over run with it. We canít keep lock downs on a what if basis. I know Iím repeating myself but the key to it now is getting under 30s on board with the vaccine, once that happens then we are in a great place.

Shutting the borders? Itís far too late for that, shutting the borders now will change nothing, the time for that was 18 months ago. Now we need to learn to live with it and get vaccinated and be sensible when out and about

I completely agree. For some reason people like johnnycool & seafoid think covid will be eradicated but this is impossible. COVID will always be here and all we can do now is roll out vaccines, study the new variants and act accordingly. Talk of another lockdown i ludicrous, covid is here to stay now all we can do is deal with it.
Wrong, Angelo
The Spanish flu was defeated. Covid will.too.
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« Reply #15864 on: July 20, 2021, 04:11:46 PM »
I'm not huge on the amount of Covid restrictions in place in this country over the last 6 months, however I find what the English government are currently doing is totally insane & dangerous. A former work colleague of mine (as fit as a fiddle in his early 50's) is currently in ISU in a very bad way. Are the English off their heads or what, nightclubs packed to the rafters in doors is surely going to lead to disaster, vaccinated or not.

COVID-19 is never going to go away. We can't live like prisoners for another couple of years.

I would accept that, but is the English approach not too much to soon.

It's been too long in my opinion. Now with the roll out of the vaccines if we can't ease restrictions now when will we ever be able to? What else can be done?
Exactly, when is it not too soon? What are the criteria?

Infections need to be falling.
You need effective  test and trace
amd the borders have to be shut.

None of this applies.

Infections were falling but as you start to open things back up they are going to increase which everyone knew. The case numbers arenít what we should be basing anything on, our most vulnerable are vaccinated and the hospitals arenít being over run with it. We canít keep lock downs on a what if basis. I know Iím repeating myself but the key to it now is getting under 30s on board with the vaccine, once that happens then we are in a great place.

Shutting the borders? Itís far too late for that, shutting the borders now will change nothing, the time for that was 18 months ago. Now we need to learn to live with it and get vaccinated and be sensible when out and about

I completely agree. For some reason people like johnnycool & seafoid think covid will be eradicated but this is impossible. COVID will always be here and all we can do now is roll out vaccines, study the new variants and act accordingly. Talk of another lockdown i ludicrous, covid is here to stay now all we can do is deal with it.
Wrong, Angelo
The Spanish flu was defeated. Covid will.too.

Please educate me on how it was defeated. I'd be thrilled to know

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« Reply #15865 on: July 20, 2021, 04:13:08 PM »
I'm not huge on the amount of Covid restrictions in place in this country over the last 6 months, however I find what the English government are currently doing is totally insane & dangerous. A former work colleague of mine (as fit as a fiddle in his early 50's) is currently in ISU in a very bad way. Are the English off their heads or what, nightclubs packed to the rafters in doors is surely going to lead to disaster, vaccinated or not.

COVID-19 is never going to go away. We can't live like prisoners for another couple of years.

I would accept that, but is the English approach not too much to soon.

It's been too long in my opinion. Now with the roll out of the vaccines if we can't ease restrictions now when will we ever be able to? What else can be done?
Exactly, when is it not too soon? What are the criteria?

Infections need to be falling.
You need effective  test and trace
amd the borders have to be shut.

None of this applies.

Infections were falling but as you start to open things back up they are going to increase which everyone knew. The case numbers arenít what we should be basing anything on, our most vulnerable are vaccinated and the hospitals arenít being over run with it. We canít keep lock downs on a what if basis. I know Iím repeating myself but the key to it now is getting under 30s on board with the vaccine, once that happens then we are in a great place.

Shutting the borders? Itís far too late for that, shutting the borders now will change nothing, the time for that was 18 months ago. Now we need to learn to live with it and get vaccinated and be sensible when out and about

I completely agree. For some reason people like johnnycool & seafoid think covid will be eradicated but this is impossible. COVID will always be here and all we can do now is roll out vaccines, study the new variants and act accordingly. Talk of another lockdown i ludicrous, covid is here to stay now all we can do is deal with it.
Wrong, Angelo
The Spanish flu was defeated. Covid will.too.

Saying the spanish flu was defeated is like getting jumped by 4 men but after they have cleared off you brag about the 1 punch you got in

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« Reply #15866 on: July 20, 2021, 04:59:07 PM »
The way covid has been handled is crazy in my opinion. Its an over-glorified flu. it is mental, now that we have learned so much about it all we can do is roll out vaccines to help prevent and if that still doesnt satisfy ye then sit in the fckin house and dont leave it

Well said Sammy. Now put a few jocks on please.

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« Reply #15867 on: July 20, 2021, 06:40:40 PM »
Back to the flu again  ;D

2017/18 what a winter that was, unlike flu this isnít seasonal
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« Reply #15868 on: July 20, 2021, 09:46:02 PM »
I'm not huge on the amount of Covid restrictions in place in this country over the last 6 months, however I find what the English government are currently doing is totally insane & dangerous. A former work colleague of mine (as fit as a fiddle in his early 50's) is currently in ISU in a very bad way. Are the English off their heads or what, nightclubs packed to the rafters in doors is surely going to lead to disaster, vaccinated or not.

COVID-19 is never going to go away. We can't live like prisoners for another couple of years.

I would accept that, but is the English approach not too much to soon.

It's been too long in my opinion. Now with the roll out of the vaccines if we can't ease restrictions now when will we ever be able to? What else can be done?
Exactly, when is it not too soon? What are the criteria?

Infections need to be falling.
You need effective  test and trace
amd the borders have to be shut.

None of this applies.

Infections were falling but as you start to open things back up they are going to increase which everyone knew. The case numbers arenít what we should be basing anything on, our most vulnerable are vaccinated and the hospitals arenít being over run with it. We canít keep lock downs on a what if basis. I know Iím repeating myself but the key to it now is getting under 30s on board with the vaccine, once that happens then we are in a great place.

Shutting the borders? Itís far too late for that, shutting the borders now will change nothing, the time for that was 18 months ago. Now we need to learn to live with it and get vaccinated and be sensible when out and about

I completely agree. For some reason people like johnnycool & seafoid think covid will be eradicated but this is impossible. COVID will always be here and all we can do now is roll out vaccines, study the new variants and act accordingly. Talk of another lockdown i ludicrous, covid is here to stay now all we can do is deal with it.
Wrong, Angelo
The Spanish flu was defeated. Covid will.too.
I'd be very disappointed if that was Angelo, no panache or flair

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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #15869 on: July 21, 2021, 12:29:04 PM »
Can anyone tell me what way this Covid passport works for indoor dining? heading away for a few nights next week and wanting to get it sorted, both have had the 2 jabs.