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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #9930 on: October 10, 2021, 09:07:02 PM »
Eamon Dunphys latest podcast covers the ongoing shambles really well in 30mins

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #9931 on: October 10, 2021, 09:54:58 PM »
We have a shitshow at home so let's engineer a "war" with the EU so we can get everyone back onside in  good old us v Johnny Foreigner .

This x 1000. Although its all bluff for the papers. England can hardly feed and heat itself as it is never mind during a full blown trade war, How bad will the discontent get if the French cut cross channel power and open up the coast full time to migrants?
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« Reply #9932 on: October 11, 2021, 06:30:25 PM »
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/dup-believes-high-court-ruling-on-nsmc-boycott-is-further-proof-article-16-should-be-triggered-40937682.html

The DUP believes a High Court ruling that the party’s boycott of north-south ministerial meetings is unlawful is “further proof” the conditions to trigger Article 16 have been met.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GeorgePeretzQC/status/1447092933757476866

The domestic legal position is that, under s7A of the EU Withdrawal Act 2018 (a new section added in 2020 as part of implementing Johnson’s “oven ready deal” on which he won the election) the Withdrawal Agreement is supreme in U.K. law. Including the Protocol.
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« Reply #9933 on: October 11, 2021, 07:33:09 PM »
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/dup-believes-high-court-ruling-on-nsmc-boycott-is-further-proof-article-16-should-be-triggered-40937682.html

The DUP believes a High Court ruling that the party’s boycott of north-south ministerial meetings is unlawful is “further proof” the conditions to trigger Article 16 have been met.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GeorgePeretzQC/status/1447092933757476866

The domestic legal position is that, under s7A of the EU Withdrawal Act 2018 (a new section added in 2020 as part of implementing Johnson’s “oven ready deal” on which he won the election) the Withdrawal Agreement is supreme in U.K. law. Including the Protocol.

The DUP, the party of law and order.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #9934 on: October 11, 2021, 08:32:41 PM »
Don’t forget democracy.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #9935 on: October 12, 2021, 04:44:26 PM »
David Frost travelling to Lisbon to state that he wants to rip up the very Protocol that he himself negotiated is just the latest in the Brexit charade of the UK embarrassing itself on the international stage. Just another unelected joker whose actions rarely correlate to his words.

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« Reply #9936 on: October 12, 2021, 04:47:32 PM »
David Frost travelling to Lisbon to state that he wants to rip up the very Protocol that he himself negotiated is just the latest in the Brexit charade of the UK embarrassing itself on the international stage. Just another unelected joker whose actions rarely correlate to his words.

He makes Michael Gove look like a world-class statesman. Apparently they negotiated the NIP with 'one hand tied behind their back'. Really, you would love to see a trade war and see where Britain are going to go with their exports then.

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« Reply #9937 on: October 12, 2021, 04:59:09 PM »
There's his actual speech, I read it (a 10-15 min read) after reading the initial Twitter over reaction.  There's nothing in it that should or would frighten the EU, it will ultimately work out well for us in the North.

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/lord-frost-speech-observations-on-the-present-state-of-the-nation-12-october-2021

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« Reply #9938 on: October 12, 2021, 09:26:11 PM »
There's his actual speech, I read it (a 10-15 min read) after reading the initial Twitter over reaction.  There's nothing in it that should or would frighten the EU, it will ultimately work out well for us in the North.

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/lord-frost-speech-observations-on-the-present-state-of-the-nation-12-october-2021
They must be looking for a fight to distract from the failing Brexit.
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« Reply #9939 on: October 12, 2021, 11:41:57 PM »
There's his actual speech, I read it (a 10-15 min read) after reading the initial Twitter over reaction.  There's nothing in it that should or would frighten the EU, it will ultimately work out well for us in the North.

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/lord-frost-speech-observations-on-the-present-state-of-the-nation-12-october-2021
That's a truly idiotic speech from Frost the reformed pro-EU fanatic.
They made the deal with the EU after 5 years poncing about in a fog of contradictions, won the election hands down on their brexit chariot of fire proclaiming it to be the deal of the century. Once the election dust had settled, the shít hitting the fan reality rared up. Now you have Frost in this speech blaming the EU for this bad deal, blaming the EU for actually implementing the articles of the deal. He says the British  gov want to tear up the protocol and offer a new protocol which hasn't been mapped out yet, and if the mystery alternative protocol isn't accepted in full the dreaded article 16 will be pulled from the hat. 
I don't think anyone can say nothing of concern here, the British government is infested with morons and playing tag with the brain dead DUP.

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« Reply #9940 on: October 13, 2021, 12:23:59 AM »
There's his actual speech, I read it (a 10-15 min read) after reading the initial Twitter over reaction.  There's nothing in it that should or would frighten the EU, it will ultimately work out well for us in the North.

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/lord-frost-speech-observations-on-the-present-state-of-the-nation-12-october-2021

The EU have allowed NI take part in the Single Market, without contributing to the budget or having Freedom of Movement or any of the other things they require of other people. This is an enormous benefit to NI, but in return NI has to take its role in the Single Market seriously and follow the rules. Frost is deliberately trying to undermine any application of rules knowing that this is unacceptable.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

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« Reply #9941 on: October 13, 2021, 04:34:14 AM »
The NIP Protocol is benefiting Nortgern Ireland. The Brexit crowd hate it because it highlights the failure of Brexit.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCNewsNI/status/1443523156065587204

The Northern Ireland economy recovered to its pre-pandemic levels of output in the second quarter of this year, official figures suggest

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/09/28/business/brexit-fuel-food-shortages/index.html?__twitter_impression=true
Britain's economy remains 2.1% smaller than before the pandemic and economists at Berenberg recently pushed back their forecast for a full recovery to the second quarter of 2022.
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« Reply #9942 on: October 13, 2021, 04:46:41 AM »
https://www.ft.com/content/ad61b5e8-e5d5-4356-be00-0f6fc78cb4c6

EU diplomats warned Frost’s rhetoric could backfire, and that any move which imperilled Ireland’s place in the EU single market would be met with a united response by the bloc’s 27 member states.
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #9943 on: October 13, 2021, 07:40:36 AM »
There's nothing to fear because it's mostly fanciful, but NI's lot will improve because of UK grandstanding, unless they go full nuclear on A16, which I doubt they will.

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« Reply #9944 on: October 13, 2021, 11:32:01 AM »
Jenkin on the Protocol

https://youtu.be/6dUVnzJtQ3c

They keep on saying it doesn't work when it clearly does
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