NFL Division 1 2024

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I think any match up between Derry/Armagh/Mayo/Galway is a 50/50 game if they play later on in the year.

You could possibly add Donegal or Tyrone or Roscommon to that list if they get their act together.

[Wildweasel74]

From what I see, Dublin seem particularly strong, I know McCarthy starting to slow up but will still start.i think Dublin gonna be around until Fenton, Kilkenny retire. Then most of the heavy lifting will have to be done by O'Callaghan. I know if I was playing against them, that's 3 players that I be earmarking for man to man markers. Jack Barry proved that Fenton influence can be greatly reduced.

[Armagh18]

I think any match up between Derry/Armagh/Mayo/Galway is a 50/50 game if they play later on in the year.

You could possibly add Donegal or Tyrone or Roscommon to that list if they get their act together.

Agreed, would probably say ourselves and Tyrone/Donegal is probably 50/50 as well given the rivalries there. Think any of those 5 capable of catching Kerry in a one off game and Dublin if it was out of Croker.

[Armagh18]

From what I see, Dublin seem particularly strong, I know McCarthy starring to slow up but will still start.i think Dublin gonna be around until Fenton, Kilkenny retire. Then most of the heavy lifting will have to be done by O'Callaghan. I know if I was playing against them, that's 3 players that I be earmarking for man to man markers. Jack Barry proved that Fenton influence can be greatly reduced.

Glass vs Fenton would be some battle.

[ClubScene13]

I made my way down to Kerry from Clare yesterday with my 8 year old daughter for what was a mostly enjoyable day. Nice weather, the Kerry scenery beautiful as always. The game wasn't too bad either bar the Tyrone wides and ref a little whistle happy at times for both teams. Doesn't feel like a bad defeat for Tyrone. A few defensive tweaks in the second half and we were back in it but it was too little, too late. During melee, I was disappointed to hear"shower of kna**ers, always were, always will be"from the row behind me. Middle aged, well dressed man from Kerry with small kids. Not nice to hear and disappointing for all within earshot, Kerry and Tyrone fans alike. I know there's always one but it felt very personal. Could do without it.

I've had a couple of hairy enough experiences at Croke Park for Tyrone v Kerry games. It definitely over steps the mark from time to time in that fixture. There's also a lorry load of bad incidents in the All Ireland club series between Tyrone and Kerry teams in the last 20 years. I'd support Derry or Armagh in a game against Kerry, wouldn't even be up for debate either

[seafoid]

I made my way down to Kerry from Clare yesterday with my 8 year old daughter for what was a mostly enjoyable day. Nice weather, the Kerry scenery beautiful as always. The game wasn't too bad either bar the Tyrone wides and ref a little whistle happy at times for both teams. Doesn't feel like a bad defeat for Tyrone. A few defensive tweaks in the second half and we were back in it but it was too little, too late. During melee, I was disappointed to hear"shower of kna**ers, always were, always will be"from the row behind me. Middle aged, well dressed man from Kerry with small kids. Not nice to hear and disappointing for all within earshot, Kerry and Tyrone fans alike. I know there's always one but it felt very personal. Could do without it.

That sounds very unpleasant. It was definitely not about Tyrone people. Kerry football is not in great shape. In the last 20 years Kerry have been unable to beat first Tyrone and now Dublin. Kerry have lost 5 all Irelands to these 2 teams AFAIK. The roll of honour is now under threat. Kerry fans are used to winning and those days are over, at least for now.

[galwayman]

I made my way down to Kerry from Clare yesterday with my 8 year old daughter for what was a mostly enjoyable day. Nice weather, the Kerry scenery beautiful as always. The game wasn't too bad either bar the Tyrone wides and ref a little whistle happy at times for both teams. Doesn't feel like a bad defeat for Tyrone. A few defensive tweaks in the second half and we were back in it but it was too little, too late. During melee, I was disappointed to hear"shower of kna**ers, always were, always will be"from the row behind me. Middle aged, well dressed man from Kerry with small kids. Not nice to hear and disappointing for all within earshot, Kerry and Tyrone fans alike. I know there's always one but it felt very personal. Could do without it.

That sounds very unpleasant. It was definitely not about Tyrone people. Kerry football is not in great shape. In the last 20 years Kerry have been unable to beat first Tyrone and now Dublin. Kerry have lost 5 all Irelands to these 2 teams AFAIK. The roll of honour is now under threat. Kerry fans are used to winning and those days are over, at least for now.

They were reigning All Ireland champions this time last year.
Kerry will never be far away

[imtommygunn]

It was January, 2003, when then Kerry manager Paidi O Se caused huge controversy when he referred to Kerry fans as "f****** animals". He later apologised, stating that he meant they always demanded the most from his side.

Yeah you would think there Kerry are the poor relations. They are always there or thereabouts and will be again this year.

[Rossfan]

Back to the title of the thread....we're as good as relegated, losers of Monaghan v Tyrone likely to join us.
2 of Derry, Dublin, Kerry to make the Final.

We seem to be a total mess in many ways this year and a totally abject 2nd half last Saturday doesn't inspire confidence.
Maybe we have a cunning plan.....

[imtommygunn]

You do tend to be better in the championship when you have been worse in the league...

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Back to the title of the thread....we're as good as relegated, losers of Monaghan v Tyrone likely to join us.
2 of Derry, Dublin, Kerry to make the Final.

We seem to be a total mess in many ways this year and a totally abject 2nd half last Saturday doesn't inspire confidence.
Maybe we have a cunning plan.....

Roscommon reverting to the mean again.

Personally I'd prefer to have teams with realistic chance of winning an All Ireland in Division 1.

Donegal, Armagh and even Cork if they ever get their act together will be great additions to Division 1.

[inroundthesquare]

NFL Division 1 top scorers from play per Gaelic Statsman on twitter

1. Darragh Canavan (Tyrone) 1-13
1. Con O'Callaghan (Dublin) 2-10
3. David Clifford (Kerry) 1-10
4. Shane McGuigan (Derry) 0-12
4. Sean O'Shea (Kerry) 0-12
6. Fergal Boland (Mayo) 0-11
6. Ciaran Daly (Tyrone) 1-08
8. Ryan O'Donoghue (Mayo) 0-09
8. Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin) 0-09
10. Paudie Clifford (Kerry) 0-08
10. Jack McCarron (Monaghan) 0-08
10. Diarmuid Murtagh (Roscommon) 0-08
10. Enda Smith (Roscommon) 1-05

[imtommygunn]

Has McGuigan not scored far more than that? Not sure on some of the rest.

[seafoid]

I made my way down to Kerry from Clare yesterday with my 8 year old daughter for what was a mostly enjoyable day. Nice weather, the Kerry scenery beautiful as always. The game wasn't too bad either bar the Tyrone wides and ref a little whistle happy at times for both teams. Doesn't feel like a bad defeat for Tyrone. A few defensive tweaks in the second half and we were back in it but it was too little, too late. During melee, I was disappointed to hear"shower of kna**ers, always were, always will be"from the row behind me. Middle aged, well dressed man from Kerry with small kids. Not nice to hear and disappointing for all within earshot, Kerry and Tyrone fans alike. I know there's always one but it felt very personal. Could do without it.

That sounds very unpleasant. It was definitely not about Tyrone people. Kerry football is not in great shape. In the last 20 years Kerry have been unable to beat first Tyrone and now Dublin. Kerry have lost 5 all Irelands to these 2 teams AFAIK. The roll of honour is now under threat. Kerry fans are used to winning and those days are over, at least for now.

They were reigning All Ireland champions this time last year.
Kerry will never be far away

They lost 3 finals to Dublin. One all Ireland between 2010 and 2019. They are on a shaky scraw these days, on their terms. There are graveyards in Kerry with loads of Ireland medals but things have changed. Dublin winning 9 in 13 years when it previously took them 72 years to win 9 is really scary below in the Kingdom.

[Mario]

Has McGuigan not scored far more than that? Not sure on some of the rest.

I'd say that's accurate enough, I don't think he scored from play v Galway and maybe only 1 v Tyrone but was very good the other 3 games. Probably the case for other top forwards too but McGuigan wins an awful lot of Derry's frees too. V Dublin for example in the first half he was fouled 3 times for 3 converted frees.