NFL Division 1 2024

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tbrick18

Dubs have peaked too soon.
They'll fade in the white hot heat of the leinster championship.
You win  nothing in march.

If derry had won thats what would have been said of them.

Positives for derry, mcevoy in full back with mcloskey and Baker is a really good option.
Gilmore can play chb against the best of them.
Bradley not atvthe races for mf against the dubs.
Murphy had glimpses of brilliance.
Downey struggled at half back.

That's some good learnings out if the game

It's all about championship.

Gael85

Quote from: Tubberman on March 02, 2024, 08:12:09 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on March 02, 2024, 07:46:01 PMMickey continuing his excellent record against Dublin,Kerry and Mayo

What's his record against Mayo? Not that great from my memory.

No championship win since 08?

Wildweasel74

Well if Derry beat Mayo, they put even a weaker team than tonight, out.

gallsman

Quote from: tbrick18 on March 02, 2024, 09:17:00 PMDubs have peaked too soon.
They'll fade in the white hot heat of the leinster championship.
You win  nothing in march.

If derry had won thats what would have been said of them.

Positives for derry, mcevoy in full back with mcloskey and Baker is a really good option.
Gilmore can play chb against the best of them.
Bradley not atvthe races for mf against the dubs.
Murphy had glimpses of brilliance.
Downey struggled at half back.

That's some good learnings out if the game

It's all about championship.

Downey didn't belong in the same galaxy as Kilkenny. You normally only ever see Kilkenny finishing off handy scores because of the work he gets through and his tightly he's parked but he seemed to have all the space he needed and was happy to take advantage of it and kick some longer points.

What do Derry ones make of McFaul at the minute? Looks desperately in need of a break to me as has been flat for a while. They're not maximizing his potential in the half forward line.

Wildweasel74

He been playing in defence at No.6 really in the past 2 games but he's needed at 11,

Mikhailov

Quote from: gallsman on March 02, 2024, 09:36:58 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on March 02, 2024, 09:17:00 PMDubs have peaked too soon.
They'll fade in the white hot heat of the leinster championship.
You win  nothing in march.

If derry had won thats what would have been said of them.

Positives for derry, mcevoy in full back with mcloskey and Baker is a really good option.
Gilmore can play chb against the best of them.
Bradley not atvthe races for mf against the dubs.
Murphy had glimpses of brilliance.
Downey struggled at half back.

That's some good learnings out if the game

It's all about championship.

Downey didn't belong in the same galaxy as Kilkenny. You normally only ever see Kilkenny finishing off handy scores because of the work he gets through and his tightly he's parked but he seemed to have all the space he needed and was happy to take advantage of it and kick some longer points.

What do Derry ones make of McFaul at the minute? Looks desperately in need of a break to me as has been flat for a while. They're not maximizing his potential in the half forward line.

Not a Derry man by any stretch of the imagination but McFaul is quality, absolute quality. The question is where to play him to get the most benefit.

Glen needed him at 6, Derry don't as McEvoy / McKinless play that role but I feel McEvoy will be needed at 3 for McKaigue possibly.

McFaul at 11 is where Derry possibly need him to have maximum effect but he needs a few weeks away as he looks exhausted at the minute which is understandable.

Mario

McFaul has been good recently, hit a few wides tonight but he's had a good start to the season.

The same posters saying Derry bottled it were the ones outraged that we started the league with the Glen players. Mickey has played the league to perfection imo, pressure off after 4 games and able to rest players.

Dublin showed they are a level above tonight and if we are to stand any chance of beating them we need a full side out and everyone playing well.

Wildweasel74

#3202
Still think they should been more enticement to the likes of Ryan Dougan, M Warnock, C Bradley, J Doherty. Where they had a more physical size to offer something to the county team. We lost P McNeil and P Cassidy this year who had abit of height of the bench. We got 5 small men on the panel and that probably 3 too many. See D Higgins on the field but not on the 26, he injured?.

tbrick18

Dublin fully deserved the win and the scoreline probably flattered derry a bit.

Whilst I think it was good to give players their chance, I was disappointed with how we played. There seemed to be a lack of focus and intensity.

All that being said, I'd persist with this side for the remaining games and only revert to full strength in our last league game I  prep for championship.


Cunny Funt

Quote from: seafoid on March 02, 2024, 09:10:28 PMNot looking great for Roscommon who have Kerry and Derry in their last 2 matches

Injuries, opt outs has taken its toll on Roscommon and they wouldn't have the strength in depth of other Division one teams. Had two good coaches in Gerry McGowan, Mark McHugh moving on aren't as competitive without them.

As for Mayo they clearly targeted tonights match for two points than against Tyrone in Omagh. I think 8 changes to their team and other than the injured Durcan, D O'Connor that was arguably Mayo's strongest 15 tonight. Boland the one real stand out player for them and it's really bizzare how he wasn't deemed enough for the panel last year.

Wildweasel74

#3205
Derry love to have a few of the forwards Roscommon have, Mayo likely the same opinion.Roscommon problems seem to be more at the back.

screenexile

I think tonight crystallises what everyone knows... the Dubs are going to be ridiculously hard to beat!

Derry are rightly considered one of the top teams in the country and we should be challenging Kerry and Dublin at the top. The reality is we're a slight step below Kerry (and I think we've maybe surpassed them this year) and a giant leap away from Dublin.

We'd need the Dubs to have an off day and us a phenomenal day to beat them. Having said that I think we are absolutely playing to our full potential this last few years and I'm just happy that we're playing the top teams in Division 1 again.

Maybe in a one off game we could spring a surprise but as things stand I don't see how we could beat the Dubs when it matters. I can see us beating anyone else but the Dubs are on a different planet as things stand and anyone who does beat them will have earned it!!

We may be and probably are a forward or 2 away from an All Ireland and that's ok. From what I've seen the last 2 seasons I don't think we

Jell 0 Biafra

Not too much to be learned from today.  Both sides will have lots of changes to their lineups if they meet in the summer.  What might be interesting would be to see their respective approaches if they were to meet in the league final.

Sorry to see Gannon going off injured.  He's been having a good league, and he'll be missed.

sidelineball

Quote from: screenexile on March 03, 2024, 03:20:58 AMI think tonight crystallises what everyone knows... the Dubs are going to be ridiculously hard to beat!

Derry are rightly considered one of the top teams in the country and we should be challenging Kerry and Dublin at the top. The reality is we're a slight step below Kerry (and I think we've maybe surpassed them this year) and a giant leap away from Dublin.

We'd need the Dubs to have an off day and us a phenomenal day to beat them. Having said that I think we are absolutely playing to our full potential this last few years and I'm just happy that we're playing the top teams in Division 1 again.

Maybe in a one off game we could spring a surprise but as things stand I don't see how we could beat the Dubs when it matters. I can see us beating anyone else but the Dubs are on a different planet as things stand and anyone who does beat them will have earned it!!

We may be and probably are a forward or 2 away from an All Ireland and that's ok. From what I've seen the last 2 seasons I don't think we

Bit quick for Derry fans claiming they've surpassed Kerry, having won a league game against them without their star players surely?
Will be interesting to see how the championship unfolds and if Derry's no.2 in the Country tag holds up.

Armagh18

Quote from: gallsman on March 02, 2024, 06:20:41 PMDerry won't care and the narrative will be about them having half a team out but there have been some very poor performances there tonight. Dubs much more physical in almost every tackle. McGuigan (who has been decent) got out-jumped by Murchan for a goal chance FFS.
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