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It's too early to talk about All-Stars. Winners and runners up usually get 11. Louth will get one. That leaves 3. 3 from Armagh Monaghan or Galway is deluded

Would Odhran Murdock be in with a shout?

No chance. You need to get to a QF to be in with any chance. The only non semi finalists in recent years were Enda Smith and Craig Lennon.

did Niall Morgan not get an all star last year? Tyrone def werent semi finalists. Were they even quarter finalists?

You are right they were put out at PQF stage. He's the one anomaly then.

It's too early to talk about All-Stars. Winners and runners up usually get 11. Louth will get one. That leaves 3. 3 from Armagh Monaghan or Galway is deluded

Would Odhran Murdock be in with a shout?

No chance. You need to get to a QF to be in with any chance. The only non semi finalists in recent years were Enda Smith and Craig Lennon.

Well yesterday was a big disappointment. Sometimes you have to hold your hands up and say you were beaten by a much better team in the day. It was a pleasure to watch Sean O'Shea yesterday. Well done Kerry

That would be my feeling too. As Peter Canavan said last night no team would have been able to live with Kerry during that 15 minute spell yesterday. I wouldn't want to have been in Ethan's boots during that period. He made his mistakes of course but I would put it down to a complete system meltdown rather than putting it completely at his door.  Momentum always was an important commodity in football but it's off the scales now.  If you lose it then it is very hard to get back.
A Kerry team with a chip on its' shoulder is a dangerous beast especially with that wasp Jack O'Connor in charge.  You can just hear him using all the negative comments in the dressing room.
I'd have concerns over what some of our older players might do now.  Hopefully they take their time and arrive at what's best for them.

It's true that no team would have been able to live with Kerry if they gift them possession 15 times in a row but I don't think most teams would do that. He'd have been better lumping a few up the middle but for whatever reason he decided now to. It happens all the time now when teams get on top and hit 7 or 8 points in a row, but 14 is unheard of in what was a tight game before that.

How did McGeary get motm. He got turned over loads of times and I don't remember him doing much of note.

Why is Tyrone's support not what it was? They used to be at Armagh levels but even with a resurgence under MOR there seems to be a lack of interest from a football mad county.

Utterly embarrassing stuff.

It's very fair they've been shafted. And I'm no Donegal fan.

How? Because They have to play 6 days after a game instead of 7? I haven't heard anyone explain why this makes a difference. Anyone saying an extra day's rest can save it. Teams will be training all week from tonight.

Why give Kerry 2 days extra rest?

The optics are not good.

They've been on a long slog and extra days rest would mean a lot mentally more than anything.

Mentally it will make no difference, they wouldn't be chilled on the Saturday if they had an AI QF on Sunday. Physically it will probably make no difference either. If you haven't recovered after 6 days you are injured.

Looking at the AI QF draw we were a jammy Galway goal away from a Down and Meath route to an AI semi final. Could have been a very different end to the season. Obviously we could lose to either of those teams but you would expect games v D2 teams to be easier than our championship games the past 2 seasons.

I think Derry and Tyrone underage teams are closer than the recent record suggests. We were the better side v Tyrone u20s last year in Ulster final but got beat on pens. A couple of years ago McEvoy and Lachlan Murray werent allowed to played by RG.

As for the senior team, Tyrone have outperformed us this year. They had an early preseason and hit the ground running (but still got relegated). I still think our best team beats Tyrone's as they have done in most games in the past few years.

Jeez paddy tally doing the media circuit already!! We were super this , super that ! Never won a game all year. Take a week off

Saying that goals are going out of fashion due to 2 pointers, maybe true if you aren't playing Derry. I get the impression he hates the new rules.

How can you say Glass had a poor game. He wasn't even marking o'confaig Byrne for the majority of the game. I thought he played well.

Keeper a problem position for Derry for a few years now. Not pinpointing McKinless at all but if they've a better option than him or Lynch, they very probably get out of that group

Lynch is a top keeper. Much derided last year because of tactics that left him exposed when other players lost the ball. He's a brilliant shot stopper, good under the high ball and good off the tee. It's just unfortunate he's been injured for the whole season nearly.

The Galway players must have been reading this thread at h/t lol.

In the end they would have went through in same place even if Armagh beat them with a better scoring difference v Derry.

Not if they lost by more than 5, as they were doing at ht

Strange to not win a game but have some optimism for next season. Feel like we aren't a million miles away. Hopefully Rogers and McKinless both available next year and Lynch and Clucky fit.

My main criticism of Tally is that it took him far too long to get things right. Some of the changes in tactics and personnel were obvious. I think he did get it right in the end though.

I can't say watching it that I felt Galway missed loads of good opportunities, you can shoot from bad positions and have a lot of wides. On the flip side they got two very fortunate goals. Most of the post game analysis has been about Galways poor form, ignoring the fact Derry were just very good.

Once you are chasing down a lead and get a bit of momentum it can be hard to stop under the new rules. We did the same thing to Armagh the week before but unfortunately the gap was too big when the come back started.

I'd certainly go for both Glass and Rogers from a Derry perspective ahead of McGuigan.

Describing McGuigan as one of the top forwards in the country depends on how wide a net you're casting.

Are you saying he's not?

Is he in the absolute uppermost echelon with Clifford, Con, Rian etc? No, he's not.

Are you saying he is?!

He's outscored them all in recent championships from play. Derry had a bad year last year but he was definitely better than Rian in 2022 and 2023. He was the best footballer in the country in 2023 imo