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Show posts MenuQuote from: The Boy Wonder on June 15, 2025, 09:05:32 PMLike a lot of neutrals I was disappointed to see Mayo exit the championship - they bring so much to the competition.
Fair play to Donegal with the last play leading to the winner.
They could have kicked the play out of play after the hooter knowing they were through.
Had they taken that option it would have left a very sour taste in the Breffni County.
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2025, 09:04:47 PMMayo v Donegal - Cavan
Cavan v Tyrone - Enniskillen
Kerry v Meath - Tullamore
Roscommon v Cork- Portlaoise
Monaghan v Down - Armagh
Louth v Clare - Longford
Galway v Armagh - Navan
Dublin v Derry - Newry
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 23, 2025, 10:39:58 AMQuote from: johnnycool on May 23, 2025, 10:29:44 AMQuote from: Dag Dog on May 22, 2025, 10:45:09 PMLike the Lisbon Treaty, re-run it until you get the right result.
Also like the Lisbon Treaty, change the motion and it'll pass.
Now for the implementation which is not straight forward to say the least.
Shorts and skorts must be the same colour, same style and have the camogie association crest on the same side..
Does this mean all current skorts are defunct?
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 19, 2025, 08:35:20 AMSo it was announced over the tannoy at Mayo Cavan that the hooter would not be in use for the game as it was not televised. Look, we all know this is madness and it has been discussed before.
But also there was a black card during the game, Neary for Mayo got a black just before half time, and with a lot of stoppages and injury time, he was back just after the start of the 2nd half. Isn't it genuinely madness that in games in the same group, a black card in one game with a hooter will mean 10 actual game minutes, and a black card with no hooter can be run down when there are injuries or on other times when the clock would usually be stopped. I just cannot get over how they fumbled the hooter with this to make games so different
Quote from: tyrone08 on April 20, 2025, 07:56:42 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on April 20, 2025, 06:54:52 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on April 20, 2025, 06:40:40 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on April 20, 2025, 05:17:14 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on April 20, 2025, 05:07:56 PMQuote from: Main Street on April 20, 2025, 04:49:39 PMIn the event of had the game beeen played on, the 2 points still had to be scored and had it been scored there would still be extra time to play and Donegallooked to be the fitter team.
McCarthy in space lobbing the hopeful ball into the square in the last 1/4 was a waste, when with a little more effort he could have put it over the bar for 2 points.
Overall Donegal were more in control, their possesion from kickouts seemed vastly superior and scoring points took a lot less effort, just they stumbled badly with the finishing line in sight.
The pundits referred to Cork v Kerry where the game was allowed to play on (for a 45?) when the hooter blew with the ball out of play.
Who may have won the match doesnt come in to it. Monaghan were denied the correct time by the ref. If it was an ai final there would be calls for a replay.
Why? the ball was out for a side line and the hooter went it's game over the referee got it right.
For a 45 the when its award before the hooter the 45 can be taken. Should be the same for a sideline ball as it was awarded before the hooter.
If a free kick is awarded before the hooter they get to take it as well.
Rules are rules unfortunately for monaghan
Does anyone know if the rules are actually different for sidelines instead of 45s or frees. Or is this just a consequence of numerous rules being rushed in?
Quote from: tyrone08 on April 20, 2025, 06:40:40 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on April 20, 2025, 05:17:14 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on April 20, 2025, 05:07:56 PMQuote from: Main Street on April 20, 2025, 04:49:39 PMIn the event of had the game beeen played on, the 2 points still had to be scored and had it been scored there would still be extra time to play and Donegallooked to be the fitter team.
McCarthy in space lobbing the hopeful ball into the square in the last 1/4 was a waste, when with a little more effort he could have put it over the bar for 2 points.
Overall Donegal were more in control, their possesion from kickouts seemed vastly superior and scoring points took a lot less effort, just they stumbled badly with the finishing line in sight.
The pundits referred to Cork v Kerry where the game was allowed to play on (for a 45?) when the hooter blew with the ball out of play.
Who may have won the match doesnt come in to it. Monaghan were denied the correct time by the ref. If it was an ai final there would be calls for a replay.
Why? the ball was out for a side line and the hooter went it's game over the referee got it right.
For a 45 the when its award before the hooter the 45 can be taken. Should be the same for a sideline ball as it was awarded before the hooter.
If a free kick is awarded before the hooter they get to take it as well.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 20, 2025, 05:18:15 PMDidnt see the game, If the ball went out before the hooter, I think they can take the sideline.Edit
Quote from: tyrone08 on April 20, 2025, 05:07:56 PMQuote from: Main Street on April 20, 2025, 04:49:39 PMIn the event of had the game beeen played on, the 2 points still had to be scored and had it been scored there would still be extra time to play and Donegallooked to be the fitter team.
McCarthy in space lobbing the hopeful ball into the square in the last 1/4 was a waste, when with a little more effort he could have put it over the bar for 2 points.
Overall Donegal were more in control, their possesion from kickouts seemed vastly superior and scoring points took a lot less effort, just they stumbled badly with the finishing line in sight.
The pundits referred to Cork v Kerry where the game was allowed to play on (for a 45?) when the hooter blew with the ball out of play.
Who may have won the match doesnt come in to it. Monaghan were denied the correct time by the ref. If it was an ai final there would be calls for a replay.
Quote from: snoopdog on March 25, 2025, 10:07:20 AMQuote from: rodney trotter on March 25, 2025, 08:16:41 AMI know he has been. Don't be so touchy. After round 5 of the league the rules were tweaked so keepers won't have as much freedom . Monaghan had most of the work done by that stagemDid those changes effect Meath. They were bringing their keeper up alot before the change.
Quote from: Spiderlegs on March 11, 2025, 03:18:12 PMQuote from: Cavan19 on March 11, 2025, 02:38:57 PMQuote from: Spiderlegs on March 11, 2025, 01:52:34 PMQuote from: Rossfan on March 11, 2025, 12:26:59 PMOne question on the new hooter rule...
Team A get a free out on their 20, hooter goes....
Is free to be taken and play on till ball next goes out of play no matter how long it takes?
Or
Does Ref say ball is out of play, ye have no chance of scoring from the free, so game over?
After the hooter sounds, the end of the first half or full time is signalled by the referee on the next occasion that the ball goes out of play for a score, for a wide or for a sideline kick
"Next occasion" here would suggest you take the free or solo & go and keep playing until one of those things happens. If it goes out for a 45, the 45 can be taken (but needs to be scored without any player touching to count).
The 45 would need to be awarded before the hooter goes, if it goes out for a 45 after the hooter has sounded it would be end of game.
You're right:
After the hooter sounds, the end of the first half or full time is signalled by the referee on the next occasion that the ball goes out of play for a score, for a wide or for a sideline kick. If a 45 has been awarded but not taken, before the hooter sounds, the free kick can be taken and, if it results in a score, without any other player touching the ball, that score shall be awarded.
"For a wide" must also mean for a 45 as well in this scenario.
More often than not, one team is going to be better placed after the hooter than the other and they basically just need to get the ball out of play (legally) to end the game e.g just throwing it out over the line is a foul and play continues.
Quote from: Spiderlegs on March 11, 2025, 01:52:34 PMQuote from: Rossfan on March 11, 2025, 12:26:59 PMOne question on the new hooter rule...
Team A get a free out on their 20, hooter goes....
Is free to be taken and play on till ball next goes out of play no matter how long it takes?
Or
Does Ref say ball is out of play, ye have no chance of scoring from the free, so game over?
After the hooter sounds, the end of the first half or full time is signalled by the referee on the next occasion that the ball goes out of play for a score, for a wide or for a sideline kick
"Next occasion" here would suggest you take the free or solo & go and keep playing until one of those things happens. If it goes out for a 45, the 45 can be taken (but needs to be scored without any player touching to count).
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on February 24, 2025, 09:59:21 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 08:53:44 AMQuote from: Saffron_sam20 on February 24, 2025, 08:14:28 AMQuote from: The Boy Wonder on February 23, 2025, 09:36:21 PMQuote from: ONeill on February 23, 2025, 09:11:32 PMThought Malachy O'Rourke's comments were interesting after today's game, even though he was on the committee.
It appears that he's not fond of the kick-out rule as it results in too many 50/50s. Also, the black card disadvantage isn't a disadvantage.
What nonsense - the game itself (where teams are at same level) are usually 50/50 or thereabouts.
And what's wrong with man to man contests for possession ?
High fielding at midfield was one of the highlights of the game - think Jacko, Willie Joe, Fenton etc.
What other team game after conceding a score do you have to play a ball not in your favour? Every other sport a team gets the chance to restart. As someone pointed out, with the keeper not able to get involved the kick outs didn't need changed
I'm sort of trying to understand the logic. Kick outs have always been about, either from the corner of the square or now from the 21, teams have always had to 'work' a kick out to gain possession and the other team have always tried to nullify that by pressing up so when the keeper has to kick the ball into the center then its still an opportunity to for your team to win possession?
Do people want the team that has the kick out to get automatic possession?
I get what youre saying, what I mean is teams should be allowed to work their kick out as they see fit not be forced into something they dont want to do. as I say I watched a game last week and one team prob won 1 of their own kick outs. should be able to work a short, given that the keeper cant take the ball in his own half it kind of makes the having to go long pointless as the team wont have a spare man. if anything the new kick out is a disadvantage to the team taking it as the opposition can push their keeper up and gives them an extra man.