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General discussion / Re: On this day.
« on: Today at 10:48:20 AM »
A few hours late... but yesterday (16 September) in 1977 Marc Bolan was killed in a car crash, aged only 29.

44 years ago. Mad.

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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs TŪr Eoghain
« on: Today at 10:13:56 AM »
I think itís all too simplistic to say  Harte kept them on a lead, Dooher/Logan let them off it.

I know itís all ifs and buts, but the turning point was Donegal game. Three big calls went Tyroneís way. McGee injured (and no card for McKernan - could have been red), the penalty miss, and Murphyís red. Yes it was deserved, but it was a split second thing. Ball fumbled, wild swing. Would Tyrone have won had 2 or 3 of those incidents turned out differently ? Iím not sure.

Then v Kerry,  they were 2 points down when McShane goaled, with a minute to go. If that deflection falls differently, Kerry clear it. Thatís without including the square ball balls-up.  Thems the breaks. Harte didnít seem to just get those breaks this  last few seasons .

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GAA Discussion / Re: Tyrone v Kerry - All-Ireland SF 2021
« on: September 16, 2021, 05:39:56 PM »
Teams that reached the AlI Ireland semi finals since Donegal did last in 2014

Dublin 7 times
Mayo 6
Kerry 5
Tyrone 4
Tipperary 2
Monaghan 1
Galway 1
Cavan 1

2015 to 2021 teams that reached the All-Ireland Quarter finals and weren't good enough to go any further.

Kildare, Cork, Roscommon, Meath, Armagh, Clare, Fermanagh and Donegal.


I think its a safe bet that the 2022 All-Ireland final will be 2 of 4 teams Tyrone, Mayo, Dublin, Kerry.

Should Tyrone not be on 5 there - 2015,2017,2018,2019 and 2021?

I would have to think very hard to name the semi final pairings  this last number of years. I think itís because the qualifier system has diluted the value of the provincial championships. Not only that, but weíve seemingly had nothing but an annual regurgitation of the same 4/5 teams at the semi finals stage.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Tyrone v Kerry - All-Ireland SF 2021
« on: September 16, 2021, 05:26:58 PM »
Only 3 teams have won more than 1 All Ireland since the turn of the millenium. All Irelands won since then:
Dubs  8
Kerry  6
Tyrone 4
Galway 1
Armagh 1
Cork 1
Donegal 1

Was there a reason for putting us bottom?

Thatís the order. Cork and Donegal won it after us.

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General discussion / Re: Northern Ireland The Centenary of OWC
« on: September 16, 2021, 05:18:09 PM »
Arenít both church leaders primates of All Ireland? So, they donít exactly recognise partition.

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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs TŪr Eoghain
« on: September 15, 2021, 11:58:54 PM »
It'll be interesting to see next year can Tyrone finally do 2 years back-to-back. Even getting to the final in consecutive years would be a new horizon for them. Cavan and Down are the only 2 Ulster counties who've managed to retain Sam Maguire so it's now 60 years since an Ulster county has done so.

Good teams win Sam Maguire. Great teams retain Sam Maguire.

Tyrone would have a long way to go to be spoken off in the echelons of Ulster aristocracy.

Tyrone are one behind Cavan & Down in titles. They'll soon be overtaking them !

Cavan won their last Sam in the 50s and owe their success to the establishment of Norn Irn , the shock that followed and the lack of competition in Ulster. So Tyrone may pass them out.

Down are different. They didn't require any artificial political stimulants. They won't be stuck on 5. If Tyrone pass them out they will respond in due course.

Did Tyrone ever beat Dublin in an all Ireland final ? For  connoisseurs of the game, beating  Dublin would rate well above beating Armagh and Mayo.

They have beat Kerry in two all Ireland finals and in the semi in another two and beat Dublin on the way to one so connoisseurs have been beaten.

Down just havenít got it at the minute. They are miles off and by the look of it will be for a long time. They are further off than Galway...

Two! 05 and 08 quarter finals. Maybe they'll say they don't count because quarter finals didn't exist until 2002 or whatever. Ahhhh I can't keep track of what doesn't count anymore.

Tyroneís All Irelandís. But you knew that already  ;D

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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs TŪr Eoghain
« on: September 15, 2021, 09:22:55 PM »
It'll be interesting to see next year can Tyrone finally do 2 years back-to-back. Even getting to the final in consecutive years would be a new horizon for them. Cavan and Down are the only 2 Ulster counties who've managed to retain Sam Maguire so it's now 60 years since an Ulster county has done so.

Good teams win Sam Maguire. Great teams retain Sam Maguire.

Tyrone would have a long way to go to be spoken off in the echelons of Ulster aristocracy.

Tyrone are one behind Cavan & Down in titles. They'll soon be overtaking them !

Cavan won their last Sam in the 50s and owe their success to the establishment of Norn Irn , the shock that followed and the lack of competition in Ulster. So Tyrone may pass them out.

Down are different. They didn't require any artificial political stimulants. They won't be stuck on 5. If Tyrone pass them out they will respond in due course.

Did Tyrone ever beat Dublin in an all Ireland final ? For  connoisseurs of the game, beating  Dublin would rate well above beating Armagh and Mayo.

So Tyrones AI titles in 2003 and 2021 donít mean as much because they didnít beat Dublin or Kerry in the final?

There you go then, more All Irelandís with an asterisk  ;D

2003 - handy All Ireland
2005 - a back door All Ireland
2008 - another back door All Ireland
2021 - the Covid bluff All Ireland

You might as well say Tyrone have never yet won the All Ireland

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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Under new new management
« on: September 15, 2021, 07:36:28 PM »
People get entrenched in views these days though and then any article or small that they think will confirm their bias gets fixated on.

You could apply that logic to watching and listening to anything the Tory government says. And Iím not just referring to Covid. Do you believe a word they, or their media spinmasters, say?

Ffs lad, this again. I'd say there's not a man / woman on here would trust a Tory as far as they could throw them. Scientists on the the other hand, yes.

I never mentioned scientists.

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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Under new new management
« on: September 15, 2021, 07:13:57 PM »
People get entrenched in views these days though and then any article or small that they think will confirm their bias gets fixated on.

You could apply that logic to watching and listening to anything the Tory government says. And Iím not just referring to Covid. Do you believe a word they, or their media spinmasters, say?

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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs TŪr Eoghain
« on: September 15, 2021, 01:43:48 PM »
RTE need to do a complete clear out of their commentary teams and pundits, including Cantwell.
Of the current panel, the only ones I would keep are O'Se and Cooper (even though both are Kerry).
Everyone else is dire.

The format needs refreshed imo as it's just tired.

Spillane, McStay, Cavanagh, Whelan....all tripe and soundbites. I don't mind O'Rourke so much but he's rarely on these days).

I've no idea what the Sky coverage is like as I don't have sky and don't agree with a paid for service like that, but it couldn't be any worse than RTE.

I'd love to see the likes of Marty Clarke on RTE. Johnny Doyle could be a good shout. Dessie Dolan seemed to be there for a while and wasn't the worst.
It would be better I think if they had recently retired players only and change it up every year or two. Would keep it fresh. I know you could say Cavanagh fits that profile, but I think he's rubbish and never has anything insightful to say and stutters too much. My opinion only.

As for Joanne cantwell....there has to be a more natural presenter than her. Everything is so scripted with her and it just feels contrived and boring.

As for Mayo - I kind of agree that they were only allowed to play the game on Tyrone terms, but I also believe that they are hamstrung by the fear of losing now given what has happened. Easier to say than do, but they need to play with the confidence of winners and they don't have that confidence as a team or management. Tyrone on the other hand, always play with a swagger where they believe they can win even if they have no right to (not a criticism). It's why they keep surprising people. Their own self belief  or arrogance has driven them on many times now....perhaps that's part of why 31 other counties love to see them beat  ;D
Sky coverage is well ahead of RTE, they do have better analysis, but in general there is just a different tone to it. RTE seem to want to cater to the casual fan who just tunes in to hear a few sound bites and controversial comments. I feel sky try and go into a bit more depth than that looking at tactics etc. Canavan, McGuiness and Donaghy are all well ahead of anyone on RTE.

Enda McGinley is generally excellent on any of the podcasts he has been on lately, but then a podcast is a very different format to live on national TV.
McConville is generally good, except when tryone are playing as he just cant hide his dislike for them no matter how hard he tries!

Canít say I ever sensed that from Oisin.

Mickey Harte is good enough but he tends to get very defensive and a bit hysterical about Tyrone, like Cavanagh does on RTE. That cat fighting between Cavanagh and Spillane during the semi final was brutal viewing. Like two children high on sweets at a birthday party.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: September 14, 2021, 09:27:22 PM »
Putting on Martial was like playing with 9. Madness.

Bringing Martial on the plane to Switzerland was madness.

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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs TŪr Eoghain
« on: September 14, 2021, 04:03:55 PM »
That's a very honest article by McStay, have always thought he was one of the better pundits working in the media and he has walked the line so has seen the GAA from every side.

He makes particularly good points about how Mayo seem to produce an abundance of athletic running type footballers but very few final third finishers. Also raised an interesting statistic about how Mayo had 8 wides, a missed penalty and 2 balls dropped short in the final third of the match. That is a meltdown of bad decision making by anybodys standards.

I'm also glad that somebody from within Mayo football has finally had a go back at Brolly after he stuck the boot in again the morning after an AI final defeat. He needs to be challenged on those personal attacks but a lot are afraid to get drawn in and speak out about it.

Where was McStay's statement on the personal abuse brolly doled out to Cavanagh a few years ago? Not much use calling out that type of personal attack only when it hits close to home. He has had amble opportunities and a TV platform to call Brolly out previously but failed to do so.

Ah now ! A lot of people in fairness called out Brolly for his attack on Cavanagh, I think that was the start of his downfall in RT… .

Fact is, he has become a lot more insidious and nasty in relation to Mayo footballers in the recent past.
These are young men who are amateurs , not Premiership footballers where they have a fat salary to go with the abuse.

They are the easy target for losing a number of finals. Narcissists do that, pick on easy prey. You have to wonder if Brollys personal insults/attacks is to disguise the lack of success in his own career as a county footballer. His record doesnít stand up to other pundits like Spillane, OíRourke, Tomas OíSe, Cooper.

Whatever about Mayoís failures to get over the line, they have come back year after year, regularly competing for AIís. They are amateurs, giving their time and effort, and have given their supporters some great days. Some heartbreaking ones too. But Iíd love for us to be competing annually in the latter stages like Mayo.

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General discussion / Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
« on: September 14, 2021, 03:54:13 PM »
For once, only one county (Tyrone) should get 100% of a ticket allocation. Thereíll be no complaints from any other county on that score  ;D

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General discussion / Re: Premier League 2021-22
« on: September 14, 2021, 10:30:35 AM »
What was the abuse directed at John McGinn at Chelsea?

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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs TŪr Eoghain
« on: September 14, 2021, 09:59:45 AM »
He is generally a useless ref, however he didnt get much wrong Saturday from what I can remember.

Yeah thatís about right. But it was a clean sort  of game , not much shenanigans so that probably helped. 

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