Antrim Hurling

Started by milltown row, January 26, 2007, 11:21:26 AM

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on July 21, 2021, 09:47:48 PM
Quote from: MoChara on July 21, 2021, 01:50:02 PM
a strong statement from the newly formed Henry Joys in North Belfast


All support for below Letter very welcome. Pm our page to help but please share far and wide.
A chairde
We have requested to be ratified since February of this year. We have faced our data including bank balances and names leaked to other units, we cant see anywhere in the official guide where by this is standard procedure to follow as only rule 3.3 talks of new clubs.
We have 30 plus hurlers at adult level wishing to go and 30 plus juveniles. We cannot understand why we have to go through other clubs for ratification as 3.3 does not mention this. We have put our hearts and souls into this, from creating community outreach via youth and migrants to getting local business support for rigs.
To date our county board has requested the following.
- get each committee officer trained
- each coach foundation and safeguarding trained
- each coach access ni applied
- evidence of finance to pay fees and purchase equipment
- evidence of a bank account
- list of committee members
- list of players
- letter of support from a local football club
- 5-10 year development plan
- justification for our name which no other club use
- source training venues in the community
- a copy of club constitution
- a financial plan going forward to
- minutes from our agm
- a delegation to meet county board
The above has all been completed at their request, I think this is well and above rule 3.3. our vice chair was now informed that all clubs now have a say in our club.
This decision making process does not seem to be gaa orientated. We do not want anything from Antrim county executive committee other than our ratification to register our games, to make it safe for our community to fully partake.
The camogie club which is part of our one club plan is already registered insured and functioning, their process began months later than our hurlers.
I am a gaa member my entire life, a massive Antrim fan, this is not a line i want to follow, nor did i ever think bringing people into the game would be so difficult. This is not a decision we have taken lightly.
To finish I will quote our chairperson follwing his election win, "Every child in every parish in Antrim should have the opportunity to play our national games and to aspire to play for their club and their county at senior level in our county stadium" Ciaran McCavana 4th December 2018, I whole heartedly agree with his statement, we just simply want ratification and know why there is a hold up.
Is mise le meas
Executive Committee
Henry Joys and Mary Anns GA&CC
IF ONLY THERE WAS SOMETHING LIKE A CENTRAL FUNDED PROGRAMME TO HELP... OH WAIT... GAELFAST

You have read that statement? They have everything in place, what remit has Gaelfast on this? They just want ratification to start up.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

delgany

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on July 21, 2021, 09:47:48 PM
Quote from: MoChara on July 21, 2021, 01:50:02 PM
a strong statement from the newly formed Henry Joys in North Belfast


All support for below Letter very welcome. Pm our page to help but please share far and wide.
A chairde
We have requested to be ratified since February of this year. We have faced our data including bank balances and names leaked to other units, we cant see anywhere in the official guide where by this is standard procedure to follow as only rule 3.3 talks of new clubs.
We have 30 plus hurlers at adult level wishing to go and 30 plus juveniles. We cannot understand why we have to go through other clubs for ratification as 3.3 does not mention this. We have put our hearts and souls into this, from creating community outreach via youth and migrants to getting local business support for rigs.
To date our county board has requested the following.
- get each committee officer trained
- each coach foundation and safeguarding trained
- each coach access ni applied
- evidence of finance to pay fees and purchase equipment
- evidence of a bank account
- list of committee members
- list of players
- letter of support from a local football club
- 5-10 year development plan
- justification for our name which no other club use
- source training venues in the community
- a copy of club constitution
- a financial plan going forward to
- minutes from our agm
- a delegation to meet county board
The above has all been completed at their request, I think this is well and above rule 3.3. our vice chair was now informed that all clubs now have a say in our club.
This decision making process does not seem to be gaa orientated. We do not want anything from Antrim county executive committee other than our ratification to register our games, to make it safe for our community to fully partake.
The camogie club which is part of our one club plan is already registered insured and functioning, their process began months later than our hurlers.
I am a gaa member my entire life, a massive Antrim fan, this is not a line i want to follow, nor did i ever think bringing people into the game would be so difficult. This is not a decision we have taken lightly.
To finish I will quote our chairperson follwing his election win, "Every child in every parish in Antrim should have the opportunity to play our national games and to aspire to play for their club and their county at senior level in our county stadium" Ciaran McCavana 4th December 2018, I whole heartedly agree with his statement, we just simply want ratification and know why there is a hold up.
Is mise le meas
Executive Committee
Henry Joys and Mary Anns GA&CC
IF ONLY THERE WAS SOMETHING LIKE A CENTRAL FUNDED PROGRAMME TO HELP... OH WAIT... GAELFAST

You have read that statement? They have everything in place, what remit has Gaelfast on this? They just want ratification to start up.

The next county committee for clubs is on 6th Sept.  If you have all those steps in place , it is a strong starting point

Tony Baloney

If they have ticked all those boxes then you can only assume they plan to take it seriously, so what's the issue preventing them from being centrally ratified?

Jonkunlon

Ardoyne is very nearby. Why not play for them?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 22, 2021, 12:31:52 AM
Ardoyne is very nearby. Why not play for them?

All teams that meet the criteria should be afforded the same opportunity to develop a club, east Belfast Gaels prime example
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

imtommygunn

Does every existing club have those steps in place?

Jonkunlon

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2021, 12:39:11 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 22, 2021, 12:31:52 AM
Ardoyne is very nearby. Why not play for them?

All teams that meet the criteria should be afforded the same opportunity to develop a club, east Belfast Gaels prime example

That's a poor comparison. East Belfast GAA is an attempt to tap into a new market. New Lodge have an under utilized GAA club on their doorstep.

Jonkunlon

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 22, 2021, 10:48:18 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 22, 2021, 10:18:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2021, 12:39:11 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 22, 2021, 12:31:52 AM
Ardoyne is very nearby. Why not play for them?

All teams that meet the criteria should be afforded the same opportunity to develop a club, east Belfast Gaels prime example

That's a poor comparison. East Belfast GAA is an attempt to tap into a new market. New Lodge have an under utilized GAA club on their doorstep.
I appreciate that there is an argument there but when you are ratifying Laochra Loch Lao and Colin Gaels in West Belfast, it's fairly weakened.

Laochra Loch Lao, ratified for similar reasons as East Belfast. That being, a unique concept (all operations through the medium of Irish). Colin Gaels a different matter and yes, probably comparisons with the New Lodge situation.

My concern is that there is an upward trend of amalgamations involving even large clubs in Belfast. Maybe there is room for another in the north of the city. Ardoyne is right there and well established. The GAA playing population of  the New Lodge could readily be facilitated there.

imtommygunn

Is East Belfast not different as it's down county board?

NAG1

It is great to see another club wanting to grow, but is there not a wider question needing to be asked when we are seeing more and more clubs amalgamating up through the ages groups. Clubs that would be considered to be well established clubs and cant even get 15 of their own kids out to field a team?

does this not exacerbate this specific situation even further?

Jeepers Creepers

Pearse's as well up the road. Did I hear a couple of clubs up the glens closed for COVID?

imtommygunn

Great result for the camogiers yesterday. They seem to be going well again.

saffman

Very Quite ahead of championship

What's everyone's thoughts for Tuesdays games? & for the championship overall?

Jonkunlon

#39553
Dunloy should win the senior Championship. Intermediate - as per usual anyone could win it. Just look at last year. Creggan or Sarsfields for me. Cushendun a good outside bet. Glenarm for Junior.

Two stand out fixtures are Dunloy v Cushendall and Creggan v Sarsfields.

Saffball

Championship predictions

Senior
Rossa vs Ballycastle - Rossa by 5
St Endas vs Loughgiel - Loughgiel by 10+
Dunloy vs Cushendall - Dunloy by 3
Randalstown vs St Johns - St Johns by 10+

Intermediate
Armoy vs Ahoghill - Ahoghill by 7
Gort Na Mona vs Carey - Carey by 6
St Galls vs Glenariffe - DRAW
Creggan vs Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 5
St Paul's vs Cloughmills - Cloughmills by 3

Junior
Lamh Dhearg vs Ballymena - Lamh Dhearg by 3
Rasharkin vs Davitts - Rasharkin by 6
Glenravel vs St Teresa's - Glenravel by 5
Loch Mor dCais vs Glenarm - Glenarm by 10+