snooker world championship

[statto]

Allen never have a better chance of getting to the final with the draw he had there. Threw that away. Be hard to get over that for him.

good chance is right especially with trump and Ronnie going out in shock losses.be good to see another new name on trophy Wilson won't get a better chance after a relatively poor season.bingham when he gets on a roll is hard stopped and experience of winning big events before would expect them to be in final.gilbert is a big underachiever for his talent doesn't generally handle pressure well fella over the line again at Maguire.

[Snapchap]

This f**king nonsense again about "characters". What you see on the screen in terms of people playing snooker hasn't changed a bit, whether it's Higgins or White or Jak Jones. It's just a lad at a table potting balls. Some do it faster than others. Some are incredibly slow. Same as it ever was.

Rubbish. Some still players show a bit of personality that sets them apart from the rest. O'Sullivan one example. He mightnt be very likable but he still shows his personality with his regular interactions with opponents, refs and the crowd. Ditto Mark Williams except he is more easy to like than Ronnie. He sometimes takes on trick shots unnecessarily and jokes regularly with the crowd and refs. During the World Championship in 2018 he made a vow during the competition that if he won, he'd do his first news conference naked. He won the title and lived up to his word.

Players can have personalities, and while some are happy to show it, just not enough of them are.

[gallsman]

This f**king nonsense again about "characters". What you see on the screen in terms of people playing snooker hasn't changed a bit, whether it's Higgins or White or Jak Jones. It's just a lad at a table potting balls. Some do it faster than others. Some are incredibly slow. Same as it ever was.

Rubbish. Some still players show a bit of personality that sets them apart from the rest. O'Sullivan one example. He mightnt be very likable but he still shows his personality with his regular interactions with opponents, refs and the crowd. Ditto Mark Williams except he is more easy to like than Ronnie. He sometimes takes on trick shots unnecessarily and jokes regularly with the crowd and refs. During the World Championship in 2018 he made a vow during the competition that if he won, he'd do his first news conference naked. He won the title and lived up to his word.

Players can have personalities, and while some are happy to show it, just not enough of them are.

Did that in the middle of a frame live on TV, did he? No he potted balls like the rest of them, same as the four lads in the semis will

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Gallsman you're telling me you're looking forward to Gilbert Wilson as much as if it was OSullivan Trump instead?

[JoG2]

This f**king nonsense again about "characters". What you see on the screen in terms of people playing snooker hasn't changed a bit, whether it's Higgins or White or Jak Jones. It's just a lad at a table potting balls. Some do it faster than others. Some are incredibly slow. Same as it ever was.

Rubbish. Some still players show a bit of personality that sets them apart from the rest. O'Sullivan one example. He mightnt be very likable but he still shows his personality with his regular interactions with opponents, refs and the crowd. Ditto Mark Williams except he is more easy to like than Ronnie. He sometimes takes on trick shots unnecessarily and jokes regularly with the crowd and refs. During the World Championship in 2018 he made a vow during the competition that if he won, he'd do his first news conference naked. He won the title and lived up to his word.

Players can have personalities, and while some are happy to show it, just not enough of them are.

Did that in the middle of a frame live on TV, did he? No he potted balls like the rest of them, same as the four lads in the semis will

Pegi18 pre watershed

[gallsman]

Gallsman you're telling me you're looking forward to Gilbert Wilson as much as if it was OSullivan Trump instead?

What I'm saying is that the actual content being put out on TV hasn't actually changed a jot, so if you enjoy watching the actual snooker itself, rather than following or being a fan of the individuals, nothing has changed. If you want to watch Ronnie O'Sullivan, rather than snooker, go follow him on Instagram or something. I'm sure he'll be flogging you the delights of holidaying in Riyadh soon enough

Actually, I'll correct that, the only thing that has changed is that the standard is significantly higher across a much wider pool of talent, given the number of 147s these days. Same as the darts where to be at the absolute top end of it you need to be averaging well over 100 and making 9 darters a few times a year. Unheard of even 10-15 years ago.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Ok. We'll agree to disagree. I'll still watch it but would have more of an interest if some of the bigger names were still there.

As an aside, Ronnie - used to hate him, read his book and would have more time for him now, but jees he doesn't help himself at times. Couple of run ins with the ref y'day. The best of all time but can be v dislikable

[gallsman]

Ronnie, is, fundamentally, a ****. His mental issues and, at times admirable approach to managing it, does not change that fact. Comes across as a bit of a spoofer in interviews.

As an aside, and not directing this specifically at you, people can't simultaneously complain that they want to watch Ronnie but bemoan the perceived lack of new talent in the game.

[Snapchap]

This f**king nonsense again about "characters". What you see on the screen in terms of people playing snooker hasn't changed a bit, whether it's Higgins or White or Jak Jones. It's just a lad at a table potting balls. Some do it faster than others. Some are incredibly slow. Same as it ever was.

Rubbish. Some still players show a bit of personality that sets them apart from the rest. O'Sullivan one example. He mightnt be very likable but he still shows his personality with his regular interactions with opponents, refs and the crowd. Ditto Mark Williams except he is more easy to like than Ronnie. He sometimes takes on trick shots unnecessarily and jokes regularly with the crowd and refs. During the World Championship in 2018 he made a vow during the competition that if he won, he'd do his first news conference naked. He won the title and lived up to his word.

Players can have personalities, and while some are happy to show it, just not enough of them are.

Did that in the middle of a frame live on TV, did he? No he potted balls like the rest of them, same as the four lads in the semis will

I also mentioned his interactions with fans/refs/opponents and the frequent trick shots he performs, yet, oddly enugh, you managed to ignore all that in order to pick out the one thing he didn't do in the middle of a frame.

But sure ok, if you want more specific examples of him showing a bit of personality during frames, here's a video of him at the world champinship, amongst other things:
- escaping a snooker and potting the target ball with his head turned away from the cue ball when he struck it
- potting balls with his eyes closed
- clearing up the colours playing with the cue underarm
- Jokingly nudging/shouldering his opponent and the ref
- Sharing sweets from someone in the audience

No interest in following him on instagram, but I'd rather watch someone like him play snooker than watch Trump or Wilson who are averse to the sort of flair and risk-taking and fun that the likes of Williams shows when he's at the table. To say they are all the same is just rubbish. Most of them are the same, but not all.

[gallsman]

Trump doesn't have flair? He's the most mercurial player since O'Sullivan.

He shared some sweets with someone in the audience?! f**k me, tell the Beeb to get the chequebook out to get the whole shebang back off Eurosport. Are you simple?

[quit yo jibbajabba]

A complex character to say the least (Ronnie)

I know what you're saying tbh, a better mix would be ideal. Just had another look, that line up is like one mid table premiership team, one championship team and two div 2/3 teams for say the FA Cup. But anyway, peeps will be getting bored reading me 🤓

See y'all at one 🤝😋

[Franko]

This f**king nonsense again about "characters". What you see on the screen in terms of people playing snooker hasn't changed a bit, whether it's Higgins or White or Jak Jones. It's just a lad at a table potting balls. Some do it faster than others. Some are incredibly slow. Same as it ever was.

If you can't see the player's personalities (or lack of them) come through in the way the they actually play the game, you know fcuk all about snooker.

They're all playing the same game, but they're not playing it the same way.  Same in any sport.

Unfortunately snooker right now seems chock full of risk averse players with a serious shortage of natural flair.

Which makes it all a bit boring.

[Snapchap]

Trump doesn't have flair? He's the most mercurial player since O'Sullivan.

He shared some sweets with someone in the audience?! f**k me, tell the Beeb to get the chequebook out to get the whole shebang back of Eurosport. Are you simple?

I also noted examples of how he played shots with his eyes closed, escaped a snooker then potted the ball without looking at the cue ball as he hit it, and how he cleared the colours playing with the cue underarm. Amazing how you managed to overlook those examples. Do they not show personality at the table? No?

Williams also takes on long pots than other players wouldn't go near. Does that not show something about his personality? No?

(I don't know if you prefer to engage in such discussions though. Maybe personal abuse is the best you can manage when someone disgarees with you).

[gallsman]

His nickname is the Welsh Potting Machine. It's a skill, not a personality trait ffs

[square_ball]

As an aside, and not directing this specifically at you, people can't simultaneously complain that they want to watch Ronnie but bemoan the perceived lack of new talent in the game.

Does it have to be one or the other though? You can still enjoy watching Ronnie (despite him being a dick) but also like to see new talent coming through. I also wouldn't describe 3 of the 4 semi finalists as new talent as such. And with Jones it remains to be seen whether he can kick on whatever happens in this tournament. He has been a pro for 14 years now and made little impact.

Agreed on Trump. You can call a lot of the players risk averse but to say Trump plays like that is ridiculous. He would probably have won a lot more if he was a little less mercurial.