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Title: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: TabClear on May 07, 2016, 07:40:51 PM
I knowthere  is a gaa rules topic but this one is a bit wider in terms of all sports.   I was watching aussie rules earlier and I know there has been a few experiments with bringing the Mark into gaa etc.  While that didn't work there are a couple of rules I think would be interesting to trial.

The first is playing on from a free kick.  I don't mean advantage, rather a player who had been fouled can get up and play on himself whether that be by running on with the ball or more importantly fisting the ball to a team mate. Really speeds up the game and reduces the benefit of cynical fouls as offending team doesn't have time to reset defensively

The second is a 50 metre penalty for dissent or kicking ball away etc.  Really hurts a team and might get rid of some of the mouthing rather than a 10 metre one.  This is one I would love to see introduced in soccer.  Mouth at the ref and ball gets moved up the pitch.

One rule that I think would work in soccer is the late tackle rule.  If your late in a tackle the free kick is either from where the ball lands or say 30m down field.
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: trileacman on May 07, 2016, 11:30:45 PM
Interesting thread but doubt If it'll catch on. All the successful threads round here focus on something everyone hates because we're all such miserable bastards. Hence the reason the Man U thread is on 5000 pages or something.
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: trileacman on May 07, 2016, 11:33:14 PM
And if I'd copy a rule from other Sports it'd would probably be from rugby where only the team captain gets to mouth off to the officials. It creates respect for them that is sadly lacking in gaa and absent in soccer.
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: laoislad on May 07, 2016, 11:41:07 PM
Quote from: trileacman on May 07, 2016, 11:30:45 PM
Interesting thread but doubt If it'll catch on. All the successful threads round here focus on something everyone hates because we're all such miserable b**tards. Hence the reason the Man U thread is on 5000 pages or something.
A thread is not a thread until someone starts posting about Northern Ireland or Roscommon.
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2016, 12:01:05 AM
We need to take rugby's lead and have Coulter write a new song for GAA matches.
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: Rossfan on May 08, 2016, 12:02:08 AM
One thing for sure no one will post about bloody Laois anyway.
Time to divide it up among its neighbours  ;D
The one about only the captain asking the Ref about decisions is a good one alright.
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: gallsman on May 08, 2016, 12:14:52 AM
Quote from: trileacman on May 07, 2016, 11:33:14 PM
And if I'd copy a rule from other Sports it'd would probably be from rugby where only the team captain gets to mouth off to the officials. It creates respect for them that is sadly lacking in gaa and absent in soccer.

It is an absolute myth of world rugby that it's a gentleman's game where everyone respects the ref. McCaw, Robshaw, Paulie, Warburton, Hartley etc. Could go on and on. Every one of then a mouth.
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: From the Bunker on May 08, 2016, 12:39:17 AM
Quote from: trileacman on May 07, 2016, 11:33:14 PM
And if I'd copy a rule from other Sports it'd would probably be from rugby where only the team captain gets to mouth off to the officials. It creates respect for them that is sadly lacking in gaa and absent in soccer.

The talking to the Captain is alright for Rugby as players are grouped together often. Can you imagine an incident in the Dublin full forward line and the referee waiting for Cluxton to come up to tell him about his decision. Then the craic as the opposition take a quick free with Cluxton out of position. You see it sounds simple, but it aint!
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: FL/MAYO on May 08, 2016, 01:59:06 AM
From ice hockey I would bring in the sin bin for 10 minutes in GAA instead of the  Black Card.
There should be a time limit on 45's,free kicks and substitutions, 30 seconds max something similar to what happens in American football.
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: TabClear on May 08, 2016, 09:19:33 AM
Quote from: FL/MAYO on May 08, 2016, 01:59:06 AM
From ice hockey I would bring in the sin bin for 10 minutes in GAA instead of the  Black Card.
There should be a time limit on 45's,free kicks and substitutions, 30 seconds max something similar to what happens in American football.

Sin bin I think is a great idea.  Problem I Could see is implementing it at club level. Would be difficult for the tref to implement on his own.
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 08, 2016, 09:39:13 AM
I like the idea of the 'tap' free kick and the dissent rule to bring it 50 metres. I would go a step further on the dissent rule. Any dissent on the field and the team gets a 21 yard free in front of the goals. I've always thought too that a cumulative team fouls rule similar to basketball would be great. Say 10 team fouls per half and then it's a 21 yard free
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: ardtole on May 08, 2016, 10:00:25 AM
In rugby, when a player is down injured, the medics can come on and treat the player while play continues. This would help combat time wasting and cyncism, it would probably benefit soccer more than gaa, but it is becoming a problem in gaelic.
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: BennyCake on May 08, 2016, 12:01:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 08, 2016, 12:01:05 AM
We need to take rugby's lead and have Coulter write a new song for GAA matches.

I take it youre having a laugh?
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: seafoid on May 08, 2016, 02:34:20 PM
Sin bin
ice hockey has independent time management
Rugby has zero lip to the ref
Soccer has extra time for drawn big matches
Rugby has the TV link to the ref
Many sports have pitch invasions
No other sport would employ Ger Canning
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: Denn Forever on May 08, 2016, 03:29:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 08, 2016, 02:34:20 PM
Sin bin
ice hockey has independent time management
Rugby has zero lip to the ref
Soccer has extra time for drawn big matches
Rugby has the TV link to the ref
Many sports have pitch invasions
No other sport would employ Ger Canning

Most of these are used in Ladies football.
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: BennyCake on May 08, 2016, 03:50:16 PM
Take a note from the FA cup - open draw.

I think most people are bored with this current format.
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: Hardy on May 08, 2016, 06:16:52 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 08, 2016, 03:29:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 08, 2016, 02:34:20 PM
Sin bin
ice hockey has independent time management
Rugby has zero lip to the ref
Soccer has extra time for drawn big matches
Rugby has the TV link to the ref
Many sports have pitch invasions
No other sport would employ Ger Canning

Most of these are used in Ladies football.

Ger Canning being the notable exception.
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: Rossfan on May 08, 2016, 06:41:12 PM
Quote from: Hardy on May 08, 2016, 06:16:52 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 08, 2016, 03:29:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 08, 2016, 02:34:20 PM
Sin bin
ice hockey has independent time management
Rugby has zero lip to the ref
Soccer has extra time for drawn big matches
Rugby has the TV link to the ref
Many sports have pitch invasions
No other sport would employ Ger Canning
He could be used as a corner flag?

Most of these are used in Ladies football.

Ger Canning being the notable exception.
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: Boycey on May 08, 2016, 07:33:12 PM
The GAA could implement something similar to the drive though penalties from F1 and get lads who commit certain misdemeanours to complete laps of the field as punishment while the game continues?
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 08, 2016, 08:09:15 PM
Parish rule and amateur status for soccer.
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: From the Bunker on May 08, 2016, 09:02:27 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 08, 2016, 08:09:15 PM
Parish rule and amateur status for soccer.

The best move would be to make Soccer in Ireland Amateur! Based on the Gaelic model. It's gas to think how in debt and how run down most Soccer clubs are and them paying players. I believe most would still play for the love of the game and the loss of talent would actually be minimal?
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: Hound on May 09, 2016, 02:07:19 PM
Quote from: Boycey on May 08, 2016, 07:33:12 PM
The GAA could implement something similar to the drive though penalties from F1 and get lads who commit certain misdemeanours to complete laps of the field as punishment while the game continues?
Brilliant!

4 laps of the pitch instead of a Black Card or a Sin Bin. And an extra lap if you cut a corner. So you'd get back on, but you wouldn't get a nice rest like you do in a Sin Bin.
It'd be an especially good punishment if there was a melee involving 5 or 6 lads, and they were all made go for a run to cop themselves on!

Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: johnneycool on May 09, 2016, 02:21:26 PM
Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa

Back on topic;

From Hurling soccer could learn how to deal with diving and faking injuries, i.e just play on around the medical team on the pitch, won't take long for the hoors to get up then!
in all fairness, I think Rugby also allow on the medics whilst the game is going on!
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: seafoid on May 09, 2016, 03:02:04 PM
Gaelic football could do with a smaller ball and sticks to make it more watchable
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: Hereiam on May 09, 2016, 03:48:14 PM
Good lookin Cheer leaders should be introduced
Title: Re: Gaa rules that could improve other sports or vice versa
Post by: From the Bunker on May 09, 2016, 03:57:41 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 09, 2016, 03:02:04 PM
Gaelic football could do with a smaller ball and sticks to make it more watchable

Only problem bar about 8 counties, nobody would be any good at it. And Connacht and Ulster would have less than 5% participation!