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Worth discussing who'll get All-stars after today's matches.

I think Roarty, Langan and Murphy are likely at this stage. Meath should get one for Sean Rafferty, Menton and Costello who I think has been brilliant. Rafferty and Langan early runners for POTY. Tyrone's most likely are Teague and McGeary and an outside shout for McCurry depending on how he does in the SF. Sean O'Shea, White and David Clifford seem to have strong shouts too.

No obvious candidates for GK. Ronan Burns probably deserves it at the minute but a strong SF or final showing by any of the remaining 4 could swing it for them.


1. Burns
2. Roarty
3. Rafferty
4.
5. Teague
6. White
7. McGeary
8. Langan
9. Menton
10.
11. O'Shea
12. Costello
13. Clifford
14. Murphy
15.

Seems the guards pissed away a day questioning the wrong guy. Very poor work from them, rounding up the usual suspect instead of investigating properly.

You would love to see the perpetrator lifted as soon as possible.

Since the emergence of the pandemic vaccines have been held up as the silver bullet to get us out of this mess of restrictions and lockdowns. Even today governments and media outlets are focusing on a rough date when we will probably reach herd immunity through vaccination. But what if the vaccines don't last long enough to be effective or a variant emerges and spreads that the vaccine doesn't cover. What's plan B?

This isn't a thread on the likelihood of the vaccines being ineffective so leave those comments at the door. I'd just like to know what our options are if the vaccines can't bring an end to the pandemic.

Simple enough question. Just to do a bit of a straw poll of where public sentiment is at the minute.

Is it now time to slowly remove the restrictions? Vast majority of people I've been talking to lately want some form of the restrictions lifted be it on rural pubs/ GAA matches/ weddings/ funerals/ parties. It now seems the greater amount of public opinion is against the continued economic and social damage associated with the virus with almost everyone expecting some concession to allow their own life to return to a normality.

This is not to do with the yellow vest/anti-masker protest. It's a general observation that public opinion is shifting against the restrictions and no government can hope to continue such a wide ranging policy that doesn't hold favor with the public.

Since we're now a knee jerk sort of association any chance we could tackle the current blights in football? Firstly the cynicism that now destroys the final minutes of every match. It's become the norm now to drag and foul with impunity in the final minutes with the piecemeal black card meaning sweet fcuk all. Any foul now in the last attack should be rewarded with a 14 yard free. The black card actually aids cynical time wasting in the final 5 minutes.

Secondly something has to be done to tackle the keep ball of injury time now. It seems once injury is announced it singles the end of the leading team trying to cross the 45 and we're treated to 3 minutes of cornerback fullback 1-2s. I may as well watch Southampton play West Brom.

Any other suggestions?

Is Hardy in today?

[at this level]

There is an interesting case blowing up on the Tyrone GAA thread about ineligible players in the county championship and I think it should be heard by more than just those who follow Tyrone club football.

Dromore defeated Ardboe convincingly in the county championship last sunday on a scoreline of Dromore 1-15 Ardboe 0-9. In the final few minutes they introduced Ruari Sludden, a county minor who was recently sent off in a minor championship match for two yellow cards, the second time this year that he has been sent off so he must incur a 2 week suspension at this level.

Category I
Being ordered off on foot of a second Cautionable
Infraction.
Penalty:
(i) Fixed Penalty: Debarment from playing for
the remainder of the Game, to include any
extra-time;
(ii) Fixed Penalty on Repeat Infraction: 2 weeks
Suspension in the same Code and at the same
Level.

Allegedly Dromore contacted a county board official to find out if he was legible for senior championship and we told he was. However Ardboe have now challenged the result on the grounds that his suspension stands in senior football as well. The rules state that football at underage level is categorised as being juvenile, under 16, and below, therefore his suspension applied to senior and minor level. The punishment for fielding an illegal player is expulsion form the competition (according to the Ulster herald).

I was just wondering if anyone has seen of a case similar to this. There is alot of claims on the Tyrone thread about this happening before in hurling and other examples. If the case is as I said, should Dromore be expelled from the county championship.

http://www.ulsterherald.com/2012/09/06/tyrone-gaa-to-investigate-dromore-player-eligibility/

In World Sport is their anything more stupid-looking than this?

[A resolution of the House of Commons from almost 400 years ago - March 1624 - says an MP cannot directly resign their seat except by death, disqualification or expulsion.A House of Commons factsheet states: "A Member wishing to resign has to go through the process of applying for a paid office of the Crown... There are two such offices - Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds, and of the Manor of Northstead."]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/michaelcrick/2011/01/gerry_adams_makes_british_parl.html

Thought this worthy of its own thread because it has the possibility to develop and didn't see it mentioned on any of the usual Shinner threads.


Gerry Adams, it seems, has made Parliamentary history - British Parliamentary history. It appears that the Sinn Fein leader managed to resign as a Westminster MP last Friday without going through the traditional procedures.

I wrote here a few weeks ago that if Adams planned to stand down as a Westminster MP, in order to stand for the Irish Parliament, he would have to go through the usual rigmarole whereby a resigning MP applies for an office of profit under the Crown - the British Crown.

All rather embarrassing for the world's leading Irish Republican.

A resolution of the House of Commons from almost 400 years ago - March 1624 - says an MP cannot directly resign their seat except by death, disqualification or expulsion.

A House of Commons factsheet states: "A Member wishing to resign has to go through the process of applying for a paid office of the Crown... There are two such offices - Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds, and of the Manor of Northstead."

And it's the Chancellor of the Exchequer who grants them the job.

The Treasury this afternoon were quite cagey. They confirmed that no application had been received and stressed that the Chancellor's role is entirely ceremonial.

A Sinn Fein spokesman told Newsnight that Adams "wrote to the Speaker's office on Friday and informed him of his resignation. It's a non-issue from our perspective. He submitted his resignation and that's it. He's stepped down from that position. He certainly didn't apply for the Stewardship of the Manor of Northstead."

It seems Mr Adams has found some way of resigning from Parliament without going through these ancient procedures.

And the British Constitution has been changed for ever.

Update at 18:50:

I've just asked a senior Parliamentary official whether Gerry Adams is still an MP.

"At the last count, yes he is," he told me.

It's all governed by the Parliamentary bible Erskine May, it seems, and the following section:

"It is a settled principle of parliamentary law that a Member, after he is duly chosen, cannot relinquish his seat; and, in order to evade this restriction, a Member who wishes to retire accepts office under the Crown, which legally vacates his seat and obliges the House to order a new writ."

So in British law, Gerry Adams is still an MP, whether he wants to be or not. Until he applies for one of the two stewardships.

I was also advised that one way Adams might get round this without expressing allegiance to the British Crown in any form would be to turn up at the House of Commons and try to sit in the Chamber.

He would then be automatically disqualified from the House on the grounds that he hasn't sworn the oath, and a writ would then be moved for a by-election in West Belfast.

"The seat is vacated as if they were dead," I'm told.

And what a drama it would be if Adams were to do that, and be ejected from the Commons.

If Adams was elected to the Irish Parliament it would be no problem in British law for him to serve as an MP for the Irish and British Parliaments simultaneously. That was allowed by the Disqualifications Act passed in 2000.

Anyone else sick to the teeth of them?

Honestly I hope they take a tanking today, I just can't stand the sight of them as they drain the life out of another GAA match, especially a final, the pinnacle of the hurling year. Now this isn't a wind-up or trying to take away from them but does any else think, like me, they truly suck the life out of the hurling championship. I mean why would anyone bother tuning in to watch the leinster championship? IMO the most boring formality in Irish sport. The hurling championship ends after the munster final for me, there's no entertainment to be derived after that point.

I'd be quite happy to see them bate but following Cody's hissy fit against Marty last year i hope its a tanking. Don't get me wrong I'm no fan of Marty's but all he was doing was going through the post-match interview formalities at the time. Now you can't turn a page or change a channel without someone blowing flowers up their ass. Jesus Christ if hurling men would stop fawning at the sight of them and perhaps focus on their frailities they might stand a chance of beating them. Anyway have to go walk up a mountain now. Rant over.

G'wan Tipperary.