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That's almost certainly Bradley's cruciate gone. Fucks sake

Let's be honest Amorin was a dick. Always someone else to blame but him. I never got the media love-in that he cultivated, a foreign manager with poorer English would have been out the door 12 months ago.

Always blaming players is a fairly shitty way of going about your job too, they are contracted same as you so if you can't off-load them you make use of them in any manner.

Klopp had plenty of driftwood too but made use of guys like Sturridge until he could off-load them, he wasn't constantly falling out with players for the fun of it.

Some craic   

Anyway onto Arsenal now 

The quality of this game is shocking. It's piss poor.

British government  has watered down the inheritance  tax on farms

Starmer and Labour  clearly getting desperate now

The end is nigh  for them

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8e9n3y28g1o

Bit of a help.

Inheritance tax is a joke altogether.

It's quite job to make as big a balls of governance as the Tories from 2017 but this Labour government are nearly achieving that.

The political capital they've expended on both this and home heating grants, only to subsequently row back to the position they always should have had from the start is outrageous. To be fair it's civil servants and advisors who devise the tax proposals but Whitehall must be bunged with absolute idiots.

All to do with your moral stance against avoidable suffering.

Can see both sides.

My take on it too, never been to a fox hunt, never even ran into one either which is odd given how easy they'd be to spot. From what I've read though the chances of them catching a fox seem pretty slim. They're only allowed access to land where they've permission and have to keep the dogs away from livestock. So if a fox enters land they've no permission for or enters a field of sheep or cattle the hunts over.

Trail hunting seems to be used most regularly to make full use of the days riding and if I'm honest I don't see why the hunt association don't just make a rule themselves that they've to stick to trail-hunting. It seems the obvious solution to keep people off their backs. Nearly all hunts folk are out for the riding experience, to characterise them as a crowd of people who gather round and cheer as a fox is pulled to pieces by hounds is unfair. But if they would just stick to trail hunting it would seem to solve a lot of the issues. The league against Animal cruelty in England suggested that last year 230 illegal fox hunts took place, of which 19 fox's were suspected of being killed. Whilst not good for the 19 foxes it's still a small percentage. Anyway my solution would be for the associations themselves to rely solely on trail hunting which would appear to be both less cruel and more enjoyable for the rider.

There's also a heavy degree of prejudice involved in the argument against hunting where the type of clothes they wear or the fact that hunting used to be associated with the gentry gets thrown at them. I don't see why this should get thrown at them. Most of the worlds soccer and rugby clubs were founded by Toffs and gentlemen yet don't receive the same amount of vilification as the hunts-folk do. In fact your much much more likely to find a multi-millionaire in the crowd of a PL match than at a country hunt.

Speaking of animal cruelty .....

On Thursday, we'll all sit up and feast on  Our turkey and ham Christmas dinner,  curtesy of  a  dead bird and a dead pig.

I have to say, the Phoebe Buffay Christmas greeting line  "happy needless turkey murder day"  has been gnawing at me  this year,  for the first time

But, herself has  the turkey and ham ordered , so I suppose I'll have to eat it , but I'm not  entirely happy about it.  As  Joey Tribbiani said , if turkeys weren't so "stupid, ugly... and delicious ", I would consider going vegetarian

I think I watch  too much Friends

If you can't understand the difference between food and chasing a terrified animal for miles for a sick thrill then that's on you.

Do fox hunters enjoy the suffering? Is that part of it?

I know the difference, but  turkeys and pigs (and others) are still killed for  us to eat. How? I'm not so sure , gassed,  shot in the head , throats cut... I'm not sure. Maybe that's the problem, that we're so far removed from  the food supply that essentially the word "turkey" or "lamb" is just that. A word. With no connection to  an animal that's been put to death , so just we can eat  it.

They day animals heading to the  abbatoir can smell and sense their impending doom from far off. I've heard it say that if you worked in  in one , and witnessed  this , you'd never eat meat again.

like I said , it's the first year I've  had these thoughts , just thought I'd share.

anyway, back to the topic........

Fair enough but I don't see anyone at any point doing any of the above for fun or 'great craic'. Nor do I see anyone eating the fox.

As a matter of fact, if any of the workers you mentioned above got any pleasure out of the slaughter of animals, you'd think there was something wrong with them. And you'd be right.

Maybe if the workers wore red jackets, had little horns, chased the pigs and turkeys for miles over fields, dug them out of a hole, had a swig of rum from a hip flask, then cut their throats, it would make it all a bit more agreeable and good fun? That's a question for the Armagh lad not you.

Do you really feel fox hunting is any more cruel than the death nature selects for the foxes? A slow, painful death whilst riddled with tumours, lingering on in a state of emaciation burdened with flesh eating parasites, dying of exposure in the corner of an open field or wood or bleeding to death slowly in a state of excruciating pain due to being hit by a car?

Do you expect the foxes not killed during the hunt slip away in their sleep whilst tucked up in a cosy foxhole?

Wish refs would show some balls and pull teams for time wasting. Twice Scotstown have wasted time by calling up Beggan to take a free which he then turns round and kicks 40m backwards.

There are marginal calls or 'mistakes' in the old rules nearly in every game.

This has been more of a thing because of the timing in the game, it being televised and how it won the match

Yeah they were marginal calls and mistakes under the old rules but was there a definite need to add to them with half-baked rules changes?

For all of the errors in the old rules I don't think they ever allowed for a over-carrying free by the attacking team inside the oppositions 45 costing that team 2 points, the match and a Munster title.

The 50m advancement is a bit of joke to be honest. We've seen it all year where teams are punished vastly in excess of the actual infringement. This was just another example of it with a much much more serious outcome.

https://x.com/ballsdotie/status/1997681763796279380?s=19

No way in the world that's a Dingle free to start with, could say fouled by Dingle nos. 8 & 12.

Thats a f**king disgrace.

Munster facing total humiliation here.

They've a shockingly poor squad. I can't remember the last time Munster fielded a really good team. They're now operating consistently at the level of Connacht and Ulster.

Anyone a clip of the last action?

Who was the Englishman who sarcastically said "the insensitivity of the Venezuelans is atrocious, putting our oil under their land"

Hooter rule changed back again is that right? If it didn't work the first time round how they possibly expect it to be any different now?

Media getting stuck into Starmer today, I think they're out for blood, either his or the chancellors.