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Mourne Rover

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #34305 on: May 15, 2021, 10:10:41 PM »
Today was very disappointing but not particularly surprising. We have struggled to deal with kick outs under successive managers and we are not producing midfielders who have either the size or the technique needed in the modern game. It would be wrong to completely blame Burns, who frequently had little to aim at, but the leading keepers are capable of organising their teammates and putting the ball into areas where we have a decent chance of retaining possession. Our related statistics from Castlebar could only be embarrassing, and we are heading back to D3 if there are not addressed. While Mayo are realistically a level or two above us, and Meath next week will be a better test of where we really stand, the indications are not good. Donegal's display tonight was also pretty ominous for the USC.

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« Reply #34306 on: May 15, 2021, 10:14:49 PM »
First switch should be the goalkeeper
No where near good enough
Far to slow getting his kickouts away

O Kane Kilcoo keeper
McGarry CPN
Savage BFORD
Loughran BALLYHOLLAND
SMYTH Mayobridge


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« Reply #34307 on: May 15, 2021, 10:24:35 PM »
Beat by a team that played an All Ireland final six months ago, a very good side, on their own patch. Not sure what some people were expecting, but plenty of knee jerk reactions to be found after the first competitive game of the season.

manwithnoplan welcome on board Paddy  ;D

What were your realistic expectations for today? Reading many of your posts, you either don't see Down football realistically, or you are just very negative. It's been 27 years since Down won Ulster, many managers have failed. Do you not think that the problem maybe doesn't lie with the current senior management? Like club football, there are varying levels to each team. Currently Down are not near the top half. As others mentioned, the physicality isn't there. This is vital in football now. Can't just go out and grow some 6ft 3 lads who can play football.

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« Reply #34308 on: May 15, 2021, 10:28:57 PM »
Burns 4 Kickouts aimed long to the sideline
Paddy 5 tough days at the office. Destroyed
McGovern 6 looks a good bit of the pace
Collins 6 wasteful with the ball
Laverty 4 no impact on the game. What does he do?
Flynn. 5 no impact. A midfielder
McKernan. 4 sweeper. Was never in that position. Time is up
Poland 4 no impact. Not on the ball
McEvoy 5 quiet debut will improve
Guiness 4 fitness but adds nothing to the attack
Mooney 5 his quietest game for a long time
J guiness 4 poor. Doesnít tackle
O Hagan 5 misses a lot. One of better players
Quinn 5 poor ball goin in but lost all 50/50 battles
Dougherty 4 off early and could have been anyone
Kerr 5 direct and will start next week

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« Reply #34309 on: May 15, 2021, 11:20:02 PM »
First switch should be the goalkeeper
No where near good enough
Far to slow getting his kickouts away

O Kane Kilcoo keeper
McGarry CPN
Savage BFORD
Loughran BALLYHOLLAND
SMYTH Mayobridge

Kane isnít even the best keeper in kilcoo ffs... how could he play county level..
please tell me you are joking about McGarry??? Big games in county championship he disappears let alone playing at intercounty level..
Danny Savage has been tried by every manager from wee James to Tally in year 1.. NOT intercounty level... he must be 32 ish as well..
Loughran - dead ball specialist no doubt and suits the way harps play with 1 up and 14 back - he has pace to get the ball.. but Iíd say Guinness x2, BOíH, CQ, CD, Poland are all better footballers tbh
Smyth - this has to be a piss take?? This lad scored a few dead balls in the championship last year and is now hailed our next hero. At 6í2 he canít win his own ball in midfield, doesnít compete well in crowded areas and doesnít tackle.. is it because he is over 6 foot we now feel we have a baller???

I despair at some of the suggestions on here...

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« Reply #34310 on: May 16, 2021, 05:06:05 AM »
There are guys from your community, your families and parishes who get a call up for county duty, consider it a supreme honour, train hard 4 nights a week, watch their diet closely, do gym work often twice a day, build life around representing their county. Not just the starting 15, but subs and boys who don't even get their name on the programme.

And some self righteous p***k thinks he has a right to come into social media and name names and denegrate  insult and cast judgement as if they were all Jack O Shea's themselves back in the day. Cyber bullies, that's what you are - can't you make a good point while leaving the names and personal shit out of it???

Mourne Rover made his point more than adequately without seeing the need to get personal.

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« Reply #34311 on: May 16, 2021, 07:17:17 AM »
Hard to disagree with any of that bannside.

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #34312 on: May 16, 2021, 10:10:53 AM »
First switch should be the goalkeeper
No where near good enough
Far to slow getting his kickouts away

O Kane Kilcoo keeper
McGarry CPN
Savage BFORD
Loughran BALLYHOLLAND
SMYTH Mayobridge

Kane isnít even the best keeper in kilcoo ffs... how could he play county level..
please tell me you are joking about McGarry??? Big games in county championship he disappears let alone playing at intercounty level..
Danny Savage has been tried by every manager from wee James to Tally in year 1.. NOT intercounty level... he must be 32 ish as well..
Loughran - dead ball specialist no doubt and suits the way harps play with 1 up and 14 back - he has pace to get the ball.. but Iíd say Guinness x2, BOíH, CQ, CD, Poland are all better footballers tbh
Smyth - this has to be a piss take?? This lad scored a few dead balls in the championship last year and is now hailed our next hero. At 6í2 he canít win his own ball in midfield, doesnít compete well in crowded areas and doesnít tackle.. is it because he is over 6 foot we now feel we have a baller???

I despair at some of the suggestions on here...
He is 28ish

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« Reply #34313 on: May 16, 2021, 10:31:32 AM »
Catch yourself on bannside
Itís a discussion board
I give a brief take on how the starting team performed yesterday and not 1 personal attack
Thatís what this is for
Nothing personal
And Ross is 29 and hasnít ever got an opportunity
Why not give him a go?

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« Reply #34314 on: May 16, 2021, 11:01:23 AM »
Lines have gotten silly blurry above.

Lottoís belief that he is entitled to continually attack and slander semi-public figures from the cover of anonymity is misled and downright disgusting. I sincerely hope he gets a knock on the door from PSNI one day, just so he realises that the playing field is more even than he thinks.

But when posters on a GAA discussion forum find it wrong that other posters might analyse and criticise the performances of players/management in GAA matches, then you really to have a good think about why the f**k it is you might tune into a GAA discussion board.

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« Reply #34315 on: May 16, 2021, 12:19:35 PM »
There are guys from your community, your families and parishes who get a call up for county duty, consider it a supreme honour, train hard 4 nights a week, watch their diet closely, do gym work often twice a day, build life around representing their county. Not just the starting 15, but subs and boys who don't even get their name on the programme.

And some self righteous p***k thinks he has a right to come into social media and name names and denegrate  insult and cast judgement as if they were all Jack O Shea's themselves back in the day. Cyber bullies, that's what you are - can't you make a good point while leaving the names and personal shit out of it???

Mourne Rover made his point more than adequately without seeing the need to get personal.

Would you keep your nose out of this thread. You slabber enough on your own section without pontificating on here. You are a well known trouble maker in your own county so sort out your own problems, and believe me you have plenty, first before being a dick on here. Just f**k away off.

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« Reply #34316 on: May 16, 2021, 12:20:48 PM »
Lines have gotten silly blurry above.

Lottoís belief that he is entitled to continually attack and slander semi-public figures from the cover of anonymity is misled and downright disgusting. I sincerely hope he gets a knock on the door from PSNI one day, just so he realises that the playing field is more even than he thinks.

But when posters on a GAA discussion forum find it wrong that other posters might analyse and criticise the performances of players/management in GAA matches, then you really to have a good think about why the f**k it is you might tune into a GAA discussion board.

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #34317 on: May 16, 2021, 03:41:10 PM »
With the way the game is moving particularly at intercounty level - can you realistically start out your career at 28/29?? I understand savage and mcgarry being very good club players and not intercounty standard - that has happened loads in the past and Iím sure will again in the future.. intercounty is seriously pacy and conditioned players who are usually early to mid 20s when establishing themselves.. Are there any potential u20 players who could feature this year???

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« Reply #34318 on: May 16, 2021, 06:56:49 PM »
Tally will stick with the players he trusts so the current panel will have to step up. Nobody will know more than themselves and they could win the next two games if the kick out strategy is addressed immediately and players believe in themselves.  One practical suggestion; Burns always seems to be in a rush, presumably under orders, he should compose himself more and get it right.
On a separate note, great win for the hurlers. Down were 5 to 1 according to the Irish News so that result from Ballycran is a big one

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« Reply #34319 on: May 16, 2021, 09:15:46 PM »
Tally will stick with the players he trusts so the current panel will have to step up. Nobody will know more than themselves and they could win the next two games if the kick out strategy is addressed immediately and players believe in themselves.  One practical suggestion; Burns always seems to be in a rush, presumably under orders, he should compose himself more and get it right.
On a separate note, great win for the hurlers. Down were 5 to 1 according to the Irish News so that result from Ballycran is a big one

Massive result for the hurlers. Carlow had been threatening to break into top 10 in recent years , and are surrounded by Hurling counties compared to Downís isolation, massive credit to all involved