https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41315656.html
Seven of the 16 slots in the Sam Maguire Cup come by way of league standings. The best four are seeded third and the remaining three fourth but their identities really don't emerge until the confirmation of the eight provincial winners and runners-up, who are first and second seeds
Meath are Tailteann winners and Clare, Tipperary or Waterford are going to reach a Munster final
So there are 14 spots available at best outside the other provincials.
According to radio 1 today, they said Down secured All Ireland football for this season. But that's not necessarily true. A lot of people not up to speed on how this is done
Quote from: Itchy on March 24, 2024, 05:45:15 PMAccording to radio 1 today, they said Down secured All Ireland football for this season. But that's not necessarily true. A lot of people not up to speed on how this is done
Not knowing is one thing in the pub, but really people giving an opinion on the radio should have looked it up.
Quote from: Itchy on March 24, 2024, 05:45:15 PMAccording to radio 1 today, they said Down secured All Ireland football for this season. But that's not necessarily true. A lot of people not up to speed on how this is done
On the laws of probabilities as it stands, For Down to qualify for Sam, they obviously need to win the division 3 title and are reliant on Louth reaching the provincial final in Leinster.
Due to the Munster draw, If Cork had of continued their earlier league performances and been relegated, this would have freed up another spot.
Quote from: grounded on March 24, 2024, 06:11:46 PMQuote from: Itchy on March 24, 2024, 05:45:15 PMAccording to radio 1 today, they said Down secured All Ireland football for this season. But that's not necessarily true. A lot of people not up to speed on how this is done
On the laws of probabilities as it stands, For Down to qualify for Sam, they obviously need to win the division 3 title and are reliant on Louth reaching the provincial final in Leinster.
Due to the Munster draw, If Cork had of continued their earlier league performances and been relegated, this would have freed up another spot.
Does the higher ranking go to the division 3 winner or the higher placed team in the league?
If it's higher placed team in the league then Down are ranked 15th. Munster will produce at least one finalist outside the top 16. Ulster and Connacht likely won't (although might) so realistically it comes down to who makes it to the final in Leinster from the non Dublin side of the draw. Anyone other than Louth would push Down out of the all Ireland unless they make the Ulster final.
Would down prefer not to be in the Tailtean?
Quote from: David McKeown on March 25, 2024, 12:35:25 AMQuote from: grounded on March 24, 2024, 06:11:46 PMQuote from: Itchy on March 24, 2024, 05:45:15 PMAccording to radio 1 today, they said Down secured All Ireland football for this season. But that's not necessarily true. A lot of people not up to speed on how this is done
On the laws of probabilities as it stands, For Down to qualify for Sam, they obviously need to win the division 3 title and are reliant on Louth reaching the provincial final in Leinster.
Due to the Munster draw, If Cork had of continued their earlier league performances and been relegated, this would have freed up another spot.
Does the higher ranking go to the division 3 winner or the higher placed team in the league?
If it's higher placed team in the league then Down are ranked 15th. Munster will produce at least one finalist outside the top 16. Ulster and Connacht likely won't (although might) so realistically it comes down to who makes it to the final in Leinster from the non Dublin side of the draw. Anyone other than Louth would push Down out of the all Ireland unless they make the Ulster final.
Would down prefer not to be in the Tailtean?
The winner of the League Final gains the higher rank.
Quote from: David McKeown on March 25, 2024, 12:35:25 AMQuote from: grounded on March 24, 2024, 06:11:46 PMQuote from: Itchy on March 24, 2024, 05:45:15 PMAccording to radio 1 today, they said Down secured All Ireland football for this season. But that's not necessarily true. A lot of people not up to speed on how this is done
On the laws of probabilities as it stands, For Down to qualify for Sam, they obviously need to win the division 3 title and are reliant on Louth reaching the provincial final in Leinster.
Due to the Munster draw, If Cork had of continued their earlier league performances and been relegated, this would have freed up another spot.
Does the higher ranking go to the division 3 winner or the higher placed team in the league?
If it's higher placed team in the league then Down are ranked 15th. Munster will produce at least one finalist outside the top 16. Ulster and Connacht likely won't (although might) so realistically it comes down to who makes it to the final in Leinster from the non Dublin side of the draw. Anyone other than Louth would push Down out of the all Ireland unless they make the Ulster final.
Would down prefer not to be in the Tailtean?
Yes, Down would prefer not to be in the Tailteann. No one wants to be in the Tailteann but if that's where Down end up then they will try and win it like they tried last year. All Down can do is win their next 3 games and guarantee the All Ireland series place.
Meath and 15 others will be in the Sam.
Even if all 8 Provincial Finalists came from Divisions 3 and 4 the top 7 NFL teams will qualify i.e the 6 who remain in D1 plus D2 winners.
So definitely in it are-
Meath, Derry, Dublin, Kerry, Mayowestros, Tyrone, Galway and Armagh/Donegal.
Quote from: David McKeown on March 25, 2024, 12:35:25 AMQuote from: grounded on March 24, 2024, 06:11:46 PMQuote from: Itchy on March 24, 2024, 05:45:15 PMAccording to radio 1 today, they said Down secured All Ireland football for this season. But that's not necessarily true. A lot of people not up to speed on how this is done
On the laws of probabilities as it stands, For Down to qualify for Sam, they obviously need to win the division 3 title and are reliant on Louth reaching the provincial final in Leinster.
Due to the Munster draw, If Cork had of continued their earlier league performances and been relegated, this would have freed up another spot.
Does the higher ranking go to the division 3 winner or the higher placed team in the league?
If it's higher placed team in the league then Down are ranked 15th. Munster will produce at least one finalist outside the top 16. Ulster and Connacht likely won't (although might) so realistically it comes down to who makes it to the final in Leinster from the non Dublin side of the draw. Anyone other than Louth would push Down out of the all Ireland unless they make the Ulster final.
Would down prefer not to be in the Tailtean?
I think Laverty has openly stated that he wants to get into the AI series this year. They probably do need to be competing at a higher level to continue progressing and I think they'll all become Louth supporters during the Leinster campaign this season.
cant see anyone outside of dublin derry kerry winning it maybe mcguiness can inspire donegal.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJcDTuRWAAEExUr?format=jpg&name=small)
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 25, 2024, 01:37:33 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJcDTuRWAAEExUr?format=jpg&name=small)
See this confuses it a bit. Unless TG4 has a crystal ball as Westmeath can still leap frog Down if they win next week. Strangely TG4 already have Armagh leapfrogging Donegal as well.
Quote from: David McKeown on March 25, 2024, 06:52:43 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on March 25, 2024, 01:37:33 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJcDTuRWAAEExUr?format=jpg&name=small)
See this confuses it a bit. Unless TG4 has a crystal ball as Westmeath can still leap frog Down if they win next week. Strangely TG4 already have Armagh leapfrogging Donegal as well.
It seems the IT interns who have to work weekends at our broadcasters are good at fancy graphics, but are not aware of the rules of the GAA with regard to standings at the end of the National League.
The four pairs of finalists should be asterisked with a note that the winning team from the final ranks higher.
It shouldn't be that difficult.
Quote from: David McKeown on March 25, 2024, 06:52:43 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on March 25, 2024, 01:37:33 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJcDTuRWAAEExUr?format=jpg&name=small)
See this confuses it a bit. Unless TG4 has a crystal ball as Westmeath can still leap frog Down if they win next week. Strangely TG4 already have Armagh leapfrogging Donegal as well.
top right of the graphic, "As it stands"
Lots can change between now and the provincial final line-up
If I was to predict:
8 provincial finalists:
Dublin - 1
Louth - 2
Derry - 1
Armagh - 2
Kerry - 1
Clare - 2
Galway - 1
Mayo - 2
Remaining 8:
Tyrone - seed 3
Donegal - seed 3
Roscommon - seed 3
Monaghan - seed 3
Cavan - 4
Cork - 4
Meath - 4 (on both Tailteann/Ranking)
Down/Westmeath - 4
Quote from: Muck Savage on March 26, 2024, 01:11:07 AMQuote from: David McKeown on March 25, 2024, 06:52:43 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on March 25, 2024, 01:37:33 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJcDTuRWAAEExUr?format=jpg&name=small)
See this confuses it a bit. Unless TG4 has a crystal ball as Westmeath can still leap frog Down if they win next week. Strangely TG4 already have Armagh leapfrogging Donegal as well.
top right of the graphic, "As it stands"
Lots can change between now and the provincial final line-up
But it wasn't correct as it stood.