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#1
I'd say pigs will fly before this could happen, but good historical perspective as always by Cormac Moore.

Cormac Moore: Is it time for Ireland's football teams to join together?

irishnews.com Feb 27, 2026

NEXT month both Irish soccer teams will bid to make the FIFA World Cup later this year in North America.

If the talks that took place between the Irish Football Association (IFA) and the Football Association of Ireland (FAI) during the height of the Troubles in the 1970s had succeeded, there would be one united international team from the island bidding to do so.

Those talks took place in earnest from 1973 to 1980.

The attempts to bring about an all-Ireland team in many ways were a player-led initiative, with prominent names such as George Best, Derek Dougan and John Giles all calling for one team on the island.

An all-Ireland team, organised by Dougan and Giles, took to the field in the guise of a Shamrock Rovers XI who played against the world champions Brazil in a thrilling encounter at Lansdowne Road in July 1973, with the Brazilians winning by four goals to three.

Although not supported by the IFA or FAI, the match did prompt the FAI to contact its northern counterpart to discuss the possibility of re-unifying.

Soccer in Ireland had been governed by the IFA in Belfast on an all-Ireland basis from 1880 to 1921.

In 1921 the Leinster Football Association seceded from the IFA, with the FAI established later that year.

The IFA unanimously agreed to meet the FAI and talks that had not taken place since 1932 between both associations begun again.

The intervening period had seen the relationship wane considerably, with both associations claiming the right to call on players from the whole island to play for their different "Ireland" teams.

It led to bizarre scenarios. In one instance, Johnny Carey played for an IFA-selected "Ireland" team against England at Windsor Park in Belfast on February 28 1946.

Two days later he played for an FAI-selected "Ireland" team, also against England, in Dalymount Park in Dublin.

FIFA put a stop to this practice in 1950 by prohibiting associations from selecting players not born in their jurisdiction.

By the early 1970s, and despite the escalation of violence in Northern Ireland that led to Derry City abandoning the (northern) Irish Football League in 1972, there was a desire within the FAI and IFA to co-operate more closely.

As well as discussing the prospect of reunion, both associations embraced all-Ireland competitions such as the Blaxnit and Texaco tournaments and supported joint efforts in education and coaching for schools and referees.

Although the talks ultimately failed, there was a genuine desire for an all-Ireland solution by both associations, particularly the FAI.

There would not have been as many conferences between the IFA and the FAI if there was no desire. At least nine were held between 1973 and 1980, seven from 1978 to 1980.

George Best
George Best was among players who favoured an all-island football team

Factors that brought an end to the talks included money – the financial dilemma the halving of revenue from international fixtures would cause – and the ongoing violence in Northern Ireland.

A vicious riot at a European Cup tie between Linfield and Dundalk at the latter's ground, Oriel Park, in 1979, highlighted the closeness of football to the northern conflict.

It was conceded that a football solution could not be found until such time as a political solution to Northern Ireland was achieved.

Others believed the administrators from both associations were fearful that union would see a halving of administration roles.

Success also proved an obstacle to an all-Ireland team.

The Northern Ireland soccer team won the British Home Championship in 1980 and 1984, the last year the oldest international football competition was held. The IFA still retains the trophy.

Under Billy Bingham, the international side also qualified for the World Cups of 1982 and 1986, causing one of the biggest upsets in the 1982 competition by defeating the host nation, Spain.

The results Northern Ireland was experiencing led Harry Cavan, IFA president and FIFA vice-president, to comment that "with results like we have had over the last two years, who needs a united Irish soccer side?"

Many saw Cavan as an obstacle to football unity, although he claimed in 1979 that "two teams in a small country like this is nonsensical".

In 1988, the Republic of Ireland made its introduction at international tournaments at the European Championship in West Germany.

In qualifying for the World Cups in 1990 and 1994, the southern team had overtaken its northern rival on the field. It also lessened the appetite from the FAI for unity.

The Irish fans have developed a reputation for enjoying themselves at major tournaments since Jack Charlton's men reached those first Euro finals in 1988.
Irish fans at the European Championships in 1988
Louis Kilcoyne, the FAI president, commenting in 1995 on the prospect of re-union, stated: "If it ain't broken, don't fix it."

Fortunes for both teams have dwindled since. Despite both Irish teams qualifying for the European Championships in 2016 – Northern Ireland's first appearance at an international tournament in 30 years – the current sides are a pale reflection on teams past.

Both will have to win two difficult ties by the end of March to qualify for the World Cup this year.

Even if one or both Irish teams do qualify, realistically it will become more challenging to do so in in the future.

The lack of success might see a renewal of talks to consider an all-Ireland team.

A 2015 University of Ulster study, Social Exclusion and Sport in Northern Ireland, contended that a majority of people in Northern Ireland (54%) supported an all-Ireland football team, including 39% from the Protestant community.

This may prompt the IFA and FAI to re-engage and bring about one football team on this small island yet again.
#2
Quote from: AustinPowers on February 25, 2026, 11:18:04 AM
Quote from: weareros on February 25, 2026, 11:00:53 AMShould I Stay or Should I Go
I Fought the Law (cover but a great one, Bobby Fuller Four original great song too)
London Calling

I was wrecking my head as to  why  that was released again in the 90's. Had to be  a Levi's advert . This was my first  awareness of the song



Yes a few older classic songs became hits again because of those Levi ads. The other big one was The Joker by Steve Miller Band and Stand by Me by Ben E King hit number 1 in late 80s.
#3
Should I Stay or Should I Go
I Fought the Law (cover but a great one, Bobby Fuller Four original great song too)
London Calling
#4
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
February 21, 2026, 03:06:28 PM
Not over yet. That try gives England something to play for.
#5
General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
February 20, 2026, 08:34:34 PM
Trump now says he's going to slap an extra 10% on top of his existing illegal tariffs in response to the ruling of his own conservative dominated Supreme Court.
#6
Sultans of Swing
Brothers in Arms
Twisting by the Pool (they were always good for a fun song too)
#7
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1
February 20, 2026, 01:30:51 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on February 20, 2026, 11:19:55 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 20, 2026, 10:31:08 AMYerra😁.
Armagh 11 wides last Sunday, we had 2 or 3.
Totally wiped on kick outs 2nd half, damn glad to hear the hooter.
The luck/ref that denied us in Killarney balanced out last Sunday.

We'll be doing very well to get anything out of this game.

I'd have little to no interest in yerra'ing, and would be quite happy to point out to Roscommon ones their recent record v Galway in championship

But he's right in the 23/10 is very big. There will be that big prevailing westerly wind in Salthill tomorrow night, blowing right down to the rockbarton end. The type of wind the Walsh and Conroy were a cheat code using for two pointers in the league last year. This year Galway have nobody bar Tierney and maybe McGrath to kick them. Roscommon have an abundance.

When you add in Brigids lads returning (i assume?) and no potential additions to the Galway panel i'd have this one very close to 50/50

No Brigids players named in 26 apart from Conor Carroll as sub-goalie and his cousin has made the 1 spot his own. Definitely being eased back very slowly. I did think we could have done with Cunnane and indeed Fallon for this game but we've essentially 10 debutants for this league and a few old soldiers and they have surprised us all, and places now hard fought for. Galway however killed us in the championship in the air and that's the main worry. A draw a good bet for this one.
#8
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1
February 13, 2026, 06:26:52 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 13, 2026, 03:07:39 PM
Quote from: onefaircounty on February 13, 2026, 01:10:54 PMLooking at that Armagh team and bench, how are they entering the game as favourites? They need men back. Maybe Grugan will be added Sunday.

Monaghan match was the only likely game Roscommon was to be favourites to win in this division and Armagh beat Monaghan by double the margin Roscommon did and would have beaten Galway though let down by poor goalkeeper and decision making.

Rossies down on a number of players also including a few Brigids lads not due back until the end of the league campaign.


While no doubt we are still down Brigids players, Monaghan did have most of the Scotstown boys back against us. We are playing nice, pacy football and some definite Brigids starters will now have a fight for their place although Fallon, Hand, and Cunnane should start soon, Hand injecting even more pace up front. This will be a good test of where we stand in Div 1. Lose and we go back to hot favourites for the drop, a win makes things very interesting. I'll give us the nod here.
#9
General discussion / Re: Nations League
February 13, 2026, 05:36:03 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 13, 2026, 05:22:12 PM
Quote from: weareros on February 13, 2026, 04:57:46 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 13, 2026, 04:02:57 PM
Quote from: weareros on February 13, 2026, 03:41:46 PMEurovision came under a lot of pressure to boycott, and did, but as I suspected the soccer lads won't come under the same pressure.

Those are our principles, and if you don't like them... well, we have others.
The FAI
Harsh. They are the only European association to directly take on Israel. The consequences for Irish soccer to refuse to play are deliberately extreme. How many jobs go and what happens to youth development if Irish football is cut adrift for 8 years?

Word on the street is the FAI will concede home advantage and play it in Paris or whatnot. So a statement will be made and they avoid an Amsterdam scenario.

Let them kick us out. Call their bluff. FiFA and UEFA have been going down a road of cozying up to tyrants. Infantino and his peace award. We look like we folded like a cheap suit if we don't boycott this fixture.
And you can go into Abbotstown and let most of the staff go. Tell every promising player tough, there are no acadameys anymore. Or tell Shamrock Rovers 80% of their turnover is gone for 8 years.

This isn't the Eurovision. UEFA are draconian on swerving fixtures for political reasons. The consequences are brutal and massively over the top. We are definitely out of competitive fixtures and possibly friendlies for 8 years.

Refuse to host it in Dublin. Make the point that way.

What were the consequences when the Uk associations wore Poppies, against FIFA rules having political symbols on shirts. Nothing. FIFA went and lifted the ban on poppies on shirts. The amount of players, young and old, who have been slaughtered in Palestine, is a justification to boycott the fixture. I'm willing to bet that Ireland has enough friends in the world that UEFA will back down. We'll lose points that is all in a shite tournament. But we will have our self-respect.
#10
General discussion / Re: Nations League
February 13, 2026, 04:57:46 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 13, 2026, 04:02:57 PM
Quote from: weareros on February 13, 2026, 03:41:46 PMEurovision came under a lot of pressure to boycott, and did, but as I suspected the soccer lads won't come under the same pressure.

Those are our principles, and if you don't like them... well, we have others.
The FAI
Harsh. They are the only European association to directly take on Israel. The consequences for Irish soccer to refuse to play are deliberately extreme. How many jobs go and what happens to youth development if Irish football is cut adrift for 8 years?

Word on the street is the FAI will concede home advantage and play it in Paris or whatnot. So a statement will be made and they avoid an Amsterdam scenario.

Let them kick us out. Call their bluff. FiFA and UEFA have been going down a road of cozying up to tyrants. Infantino and his peace award. We look like we folded like a cheap suit if we don't boycott this fixture.
#11
General discussion / Re: Nations League
February 13, 2026, 03:41:46 PM
Eurovision came under a lot of pressure to boycott, and did, but as I suspected the soccer lads won't come under the same pressure.

Those are our principles, and if you don't like them... well, we have others.
The FAI
#12
General discussion / Re: Sign of a lazy hoor thread
February 03, 2026, 10:45:24 PM
Doesn't bother to put clock back or forward. Knows it will eventually correct itself if he waits half a year.
#13
Usually LucidTalk have a poll in mid-Feb. will be interesting to see if gap reduces. Think it was 48-41 last year. Imagine will be down to just 5 percentage points 47-42.
#14
General discussion / Re: Death Notices
January 30, 2026, 09:28:08 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on January 30, 2026, 09:02:34 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on January 30, 2026, 06:31:33 PMCatherine O'Hara. Was excellent in Schitts Creek
One of my favourite comedys.

Ah too young. She was so good in Schitts Creek but forever etched in my brain crying: Kevin! Rest in peace.
#15
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1
January 25, 2026, 03:58:46 PM
Unfortunately we got rode the whole game by Cawley. When Kerry players caught in possession it was a free out; if the opposite happened it was a free to Kerry. He gave Kerry a penalty for a dive. There was a clear push on Senan Lambe in first half that was a more obvious penalty but play waved on. The Kerry player was in the square for their first goal. He gave Paul Carey a yellow card for the temerity of shouldering a Kerry player over the sideline. Then a phantom free to Kerry at end where Kerry player catches as the buzzer sounds, then is given another second to fist it over the bar for an undeserved win. Great performance all the same by a very under strength Ros team and great leadership up front by Daire and Diarmuid.