Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[Milltown Row2]

Israel attacks on Gaza.  Are they  targetting strategic buildings in Gaza or  just firing  randomly?

Sure they are using weapons not even permitted to be used in built up area so what do you think?
If they thought there was one Hamas militant in an apartment block full of civilians they blow the whole thing up and claim it was a targeted attack.

That's what they are doing and have done, a fish shop on the Shankill road springs to mind

[johnnycool]

Hamas is hoping for a brutal response. Bringing the IDF into the Gaza strip and from there who knows where this war will end. It quite possibly could draw other countries and terrorist groups into the war.

ISIS?

 

ISIS is banjaxed.
They want to bring Iraqi militia and Hezbollah into a wider conflagration.
The Iraqis are ready.
It would be a religious war of Muslims versus Jews.
Israel does not want Hezbollah rocketing Tel Aviv so it can't crush Gaza.
The strategic calculations are very complicated. Hamas are much better than they used to be. Much more organised and much more technically accomplished. Israel has to be very careful.

Israel can't hack anything longer than 2 weeks with limited deaths.

I never could understand the Egyptians in all of this, a predominantly Muslim country with a land border with Palestine but the Arab Spring shone a lot of light on their complexities.
The Muslim Brotherhood win the election, but good ole uncle Sam and the Israelis couldn't have that and help stage a military coup.. The Egyptian military is heavily funded by the US .

[Rudi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlHIRgfFpTc

Irish people talk about concerns for their kids growing up with anxiety due to covid lockdown. What about these Palestinian kids? In their beds & seconds later they could be melted or shrapnel from their homes right through them. The realities of war are very frightening. Dont know how the western world can support Israel, when they are bombing the bejaysus of ordinary Palestinian civilians.

[Milltown Row2]

They are the same western world that has fueled wars, supporting wars and generated trillions of money in providing it..

They don't care as long as its on their doorstep

[AustinPowers]

Hamas is hoping for a brutal response. Bringing the IDF into the Gaza strip and from there who knows where this war will end. It quite possibly could draw other countries and terrorist groups into the war.

ISIS?

 

ISIS is banjaxed.
They want to bring Iraqi militia and Hezbollah into a wider conflagration.
The Iraqis are ready.
It would be a religious war of Muslims versus Jews.
Israel does not want Hezbollah rocketing Tel Aviv so it can't crush Gaza.
The strategic calculations are very complicated. Hamas are much better than they used to be. Much more organised and much more technically accomplished. Israel has to be very careful.

Israel can't hack anything longer than 2 weeks with limited deaths.

I never could understand the Egyptians in all of this, a predominantly Muslim country with a land border with Palestine but the Arab Spring shone a lot of light on their complexities.
The Muslim Brotherhood win the election, but good ole uncle Sam and the Israelis couldn't have that and help stage a military coup.. The Egyptian military is heavily funded by the US .

The US, (and others)  is  run by  billionaire corporations  .  The US  government is  just there to facilitate these gangsters  in plundering, exploiting  and basically wrecking any country they chose to, for their own gains.

Democracy is  a fairytale. 

[Eire90]

Kadyrov said he would send fighters but i think hes all talk.

[whitey]

Hamas don't want peace

They were spooked by the Israelis and Saudis making an agreement

https://time.com/6321671/why-hamas-sabotaged-peace-prospects-israel-attack/

[Itchy]

Here comes the yank now, he'll have the totally unbiased American view.

[Rossfan]

The  "Israel wants peace" myth

[Sportacus]

The testimonies emerging from the weekend are horrific. Hamas beheading babies? The testimonies in the days ahead from inside Gaza will be horrific too.  Disaster upon disaster for Palestinians. 

[PadraicHenryPearse]

There is loads of misinformation on twitter. I would be cautious accepting much of what's online until verified.

some examples -

Jamie Lee curtis picture of Israel kids being scared when they were palestinans

Video of dead Israelis were actually Hamas

numerous videos from previous conflicts events video games

accusation of rape without evidence.

I have also seen testimony from Israelis who said hamas let them go a  one in which the hamas resistence fighter asked was it OK to have a banana before leaving.

picture of Israeli kids In cages when they were palestinain and weren't current as far as I could tell

it is hard to tell what is accurate and what isn't.

[seafoid]

There is loads of misinformation on twitter. I would be cautious accepting much of what's online until verified.

some examples -

Jamie Lee curtis picture of Israel kids being scared when they were palestinans

Video of dead Israelis were actually Hamas

numerous videos from precious conflicts

accusation of rape without evidence.

I have also seen testimony from Israelis who said hamas let them go a  one in which the hamas resistence fighter asked was it OK to have a banana.

picture of Israeli kids I cages when they were palestinain and weren't current as far as I could tell

it is hard to tell what is accurate and what isn't.

I presume the rape accusations are Israeli psy ops

[Sportacus]

There is loads of misinformation on twitter. I would be cautious accepting much of what's online until verified.

some examples -

Jamie Lee curtis picture of Israel kids being scared when they were palestinans

Video of dead Israelis were actually Hamas

numerous videos from precious conflicts

accusation of rape without evidence.

I have also seen testimony from Israelis who said hamas let them go a  one in which the hamas resistence fighter asked was it OK to have a banana.

picture of Israeli kids I cages when they were palestinain and weren't current as far as I could tell

it is hard to tell what is accurate and what isn't.

I presume the rape accusations are Israeli psy ops

Sure maybe it didn't happen at all.  FS.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

There is loads of misinformation on twitter. I would be cautious accepting much of what's online until verified.

some examples -

Jamie Lee curtis picture of Israel kids being scared when they were palestinans

Video of dead Israelis were actually Hamas

numerous videos from precious conflicts

accusation of rape without evidence.

I have also seen testimony from Israelis who said hamas let them go a  one in which the hamas resistence fighter asked was it OK to have a banana.

picture of Israeli kids I cages when they were palestinain and weren't current as far as I could tell

it is hard to tell what is accurate and what isn't.

I presume the rape accusations are Israeli psy ops

Sure maybe it didn't happen at all.  FS.

yes, maybe it didn't maybe it did.  it is documented that Israelis have raped palestinains going back to the nakba, I shared a link of an Israeli soldier speaking about it, putting palestinans into cages and murdering them. Israelis have murdered babies i. muliple bombardments of Gaza, those images are online and verifiable already. there is a awful loss of life  for Israel over the last few days, there has been 75+ loss of life for Palestinians.

[Sportacus]

There is loads of misinformation on twitter. I would be cautious accepting much of what's online until verified.

some examples -

Jamie Lee curtis picture of Israel kids being scared when they were palestinans

Video of dead Israelis were actually Hamas

numerous videos from precious conflicts

accusation of rape without evidence.

I have also seen testimony from Israelis who said hamas let them go a  one in which the hamas resistence fighter asked was it OK to have a banana.

picture of Israeli kids I cages when they were palestinain and weren't current as far as I could tell

it is hard to tell what is accurate and what isn't.

I presume the rape accusations are Israeli psy ops

Sure maybe it didn't happen at all.  FS.

yes, maybe it didn't maybe it did.  it is documented that Israelis have raped palestinains going back to the nakba, I shared a link of an Israeli soldier speaking about it, putting palestinans into cages and murdering them. Israelis have murdered babies i. muliple bombardments of Gaza, those images are online and verifiable already. there is a awful loss of life  for Israel over the last few days, there has been 75+ loss of life for Palestinians.

All terrible, and I take it you'd condemn them all, be it IDF or Hamas, as war crimes?
Whether it be IDF murdering Palestinians, or the scenes we saw at the weekend like the cold blooded murder of civilians in their cars and at bus stops.