East wall #Irelandisfull

[tonto1888]

Was thinking about this the other day. So explain to me this..., if every country adopted this position i.e. Ireland is full and all the Irish that are abroad including 2nd generations came home, children born to Irish parents abroad, surely Ireland would still be full? What's everyone's thoughts on that?

To me this is one of the stupidest stances to take on anything. Complain about lack of services and housing but blaming a few refugees shows how people lack the critical thinking on this issue.

That bit in bold there for me sums it up. It's easy to fool people into thinking their country is creaking because of all these pesky foreigners coming in but all that does is mask over issues. This is what is currently happening in the UK - keep repeating stop the boats like all your problems will go away. Sure NHS problems were to go away when Brexit happened but they're considerably worse.

Very true. But it doesn't need to be mutually exclusive. Should be stopping the boats and sorting out the mess of the nhs.

WTF?

Irish calling for humanitarian aid in Palestine, but low and behold immigrants, who are beyond desperate, might want / need a bit of humanitarian aid on our shores

That is simplistic, there are many people who need help more than many of the immigrants who pitch up on our shores.

Incredible you have to explain this to people, but you're either a racist or a neanderthal. Both of these words have by now have lost their meaning, through misuse. We cant take three quarters of the world in.

nobody is asking you too

[tonto1888]

Simple question, why are Irelands benefits to refugees so high & not in line with other EU countries, all the while working class & middle class are struggling to pay for food & lodgings. Taking in so many refugees (many of them opportunists), when we cant accommodate ourselves is pure bollix. Hopefully FF/FG are finally beginning to see this & stop pandering to far left f*ckwits.

what benefits do refugees get here that they dont get in France for example

[Rossfan]

"Three quarters of the World"
6,000,000,000 people....We're not taking or being asked to.
"Far left f*ckwits"   the 5 or 6 far left TDs are all in opposition.

Rightwingrudi just can't help himself🙄

[Rudi]

Simple question, why are Irelands benefits to refugees so high & not in line with other EU countries, all the while working class & middle class are struggling to pay for food & lodgings. Taking in so many refugees (many of them opportunists), when we cant accommodate ourselves is pure bollix. Hopefully FF/FG are finally beginning to see this & stop pandering to far left f*ckwits.

what benefits do refugees get here that they dont get in France for example

99 Euro per Ukr refugee in France
220 Euro per ukr refugee in Ireland
for a start.

[Rudi]

Was thinking about this the other day. So explain to me this..., if every country adopted this position i.e. Ireland is full and all the Irish that are abroad including 2nd generations came home, children born to Irish parents abroad, surely Ireland would still be full? What's everyone's thoughts on that?

To me this is one of the stupidest stances to take on anything. Complain about lack of services and housing but blaming a few refugees shows how people lack the critical thinking on this issue.

That bit in bold there for me sums it up. It's easy to fool people into thinking their country is creaking because of all these pesky foreigners coming in but all that does is mask over issues. This is what is currently happening in the UK - keep repeating stop the boats like all your problems will go away. Sure NHS problems were to go away when Brexit happened but they're considerably worse.

Very true. But it doesn't need to be mutually exclusive. Should be stopping the boats and sorting out the mess of the nhs.

WTF?

Irish calling for humanitarian aid in Palestine, but low and behold immigrants, who are beyond desperate, might want / need a bit of humanitarian aid on our shores

That is simplistic, there are many people who need help more than many of the immigrants who pitch up on our shores.

Incredible you have to explain this to people, but you're either a racist or a neanderthal. Both of these words have by now have lost their meaning, through misuse. We cant take three quarters of the world in.

nobody is asking you too

 

[Rudi]

Was thinking about this the other day. So explain to me this..., if every country adopted this position i.e. Ireland is full and all the Irish that are abroad including 2nd generations came home, children born to Irish parents abroad, surely Ireland would still be full? What's everyone's thoughts on that?

To me this is one of the stupidest stances to take on anything. Complain about lack of services and housing but blaming a few refugees shows how people lack the critical thinking on this issue.

That bit in bold there for me sums it up. It's easy to fool people into thinking their country is creaking because of all these pesky foreigners coming in but all that does is mask over issues. This is what is currently happening in the UK - keep repeating stop the boats like all your problems will go away. Sure NHS problems were to go away when Brexit happened but they're considerably worse.

Very true. But it doesn't need to be mutually exclusive. Should be stopping the boats and sorting out the mess of the nhs.

WTF?

Irish calling for humanitarian aid in Palestine, but low and behold immigrants, who are beyond desperate, might want / need a bit of humanitarian aid on our shores

That is simplistic, there are many people who need help more than many of the immigrants who pitch up on our shores.

Incredible you have to explain this to people, but you're either a racist or a neanderthal. Both of these words have by now have lost their meaning, through misuse. We cant take three quarters of the world in.

Create a bogeyman, rince and repeat.

Works both ways - rince and repeat.

[Armagh18]

No I don't want boats full of illegal immigrants coming here. They aren't fleeing wars in France. All for immigration through the proper channels,  on the condition that you must get a job.

Maybe I am a far right racist then?

[tonto1888]

No I don't want boats full of illegal immigrants coming here. They aren't fleeing wars in France. All for immigration through the proper channels,  on the condition that you must get a job.

Maybe I am a far right racist then?

there are no boats full of anyone coming to Armagh mate

[armaghniac]

Incredible you have to explain this to people, but you're either a racist or a neanderthal. Both of these words have by now have lost their meaning, through misuse. We cant take three quarters of the world in.

nobody is asking you too

What number are you asking for?

[whitey]

https://youtu.be/-gT_lkHiuQA?si=XCEDsxebGpmy_6qc

Hardcore white supremacists protesting against migrant shelters in Chicago

[trailer]

No I don't want boats full of illegal immigrants coming here. They aren't fleeing wars in France. All for immigration through the proper channels,  on the condition that you must get a job.

Maybe I am a far right racist then?

there are no boats full of anyone coming to Armagh mate

Lol!

[imtommygunn]

Is the terminology not completely wrong here too. They're not illegal immigrants they're asylum seekers. They seek asylum and if they don't get it then at that point they're illegal immigrants?

[LeoMc]

No I don't want boats full of illegal immigrants coming here. They aren't fleeing wars in France. All for immigration through the proper channels,  on the condition that you must get a job.

Maybe I am a far right racist then?

there are no boats full of anyone coming to Armagh mate

The new bridge will stop them sailing up the Newry canal.

[Rossfan]

Is the terminology not completely wrong here too. They're not illegal immigrants they're asylum seekers. They seek asylum and if they don't get it then at that point they're illegal immigrants?

Correct.
As far as I know there were around 14,000 claimants last year (not 6,000,000,000).
Ukrainians are part of a special arrangement.
The vast majority of foreigners here are Brits, EU citizens, people from other Countries on work permits, (c23,000 issued in 2023)

[imtommygunn]

Yeah it is deliberate language that is used tbh and then people fall for it.