Division one 2021

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Rudi

Roscommon on Dublins kick outs are cat, surrender the kick out fair enough, their placement of players thereafter is baffling. They should be placed between their own 30 and 45. Instead they have lads doing nothing. Tis men against boys, although it could be level, no penalty for Dubs & Murtagh had a shocking miss.

macker15

Quote from: Mayo Border on May 16, 2021, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:06:29 PM
Was outside the square and wasn't a black card.
Surely that's a bullshyte rule. Refs are going to be slated whether they give the penalty or not. Good dive by Small all the same

Unfortunately top teams get all the big calls.  Mayo lads diving yesterday got the handy frees whereas Down had to be assaulted to win free. Same today Rossies getting nowt from referee.

dublin7

Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
Is there not a new rule in that a black card offence + stopping a goalscoring chance = penalty ?

I assumed that's why the pen was given

Cynical foul inside the the 21 is now a penalty and a black card. The fact the foul was outside the penalty area was irrelevant.

Hound

Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:18:55 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
Is there not a new rule in that a black card offence + stopping a goalscoring chance = penalty ?

I assumed that's why the pen was given

Wasn't a black card.

https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1393916706033217542
You don't think the defender deliberately took him down? The trip was the key.
The ref obviously thought it black. Very careless from the defender at the least. 
It was a 100% a foul, with the attempt at stopping the goalscoring opportunity. 

So as I understand the new temporary rules, once the ref decides it is black, and decides it's a goalscoring chance, then he has to award the penalty regardless of where the foul takes place.

greatpoint

Quote from: dublin7 on May 16, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
Is there not a new rule in that a black card offence + stopping a goalscoring chance = penalty ?

I assumed that's why the pen was given

Cynical foul inside the the 21 is now a penalty and a black card. The fact the foul was outside the penalty area was irrelevant.

It wasn't a cynical foul though. If that's classified as one then there'll be 10 black cards awarded a game.

Blowitupref

Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
Is there not a new rule in that a black card offence + stopping a goalscoring chance = penalty ?

I assumed that's why the pen was given
Yes but that incident was a yellow card offence and free in for Dublin instead of a penalty.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Hound

Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on May 16, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
Is there not a new rule in that a black card offence + stopping a goalscoring chance = penalty ?

I assumed that's why the pen was given

Cynical foul inside the the 21 is now a penalty and a black card. The fact the foul was outside the penalty area was irrelevant.

It wasn't a cynical foul though. If that's classified as one then there'll be 10 black cards awarded a game.
Not cynical? Really?. There was no attempt to play the ball. A definite deliberate foul.

dublin7

Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on May 16, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
Is there not a new rule in that a black card offence + stopping a goalscoring chance = penalty ?

I assumed that's why the pen was given

Cynical foul inside the the 21 is now a penalty and a black card. The fact the foul was outside the penalty area was irrelevant.

It wasn't a cynical foul though. If that's classified as one then there'll be 10 black cards awarded a game.
Small was in on goal and was tripped. If that happened on half way line it's not a goal scoring chance and no black card is given. That's the key difference and the reason there wouldn't be 10 black cards a game for that type of foul

weareros

Quote from: dublin7 on May 16, 2021, 02:36:24 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on May 16, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
Is there not a new rule in that a black card offence + stopping a goalscoring chance = penalty ?

I assumed that's why the pen was given

Cynical foul inside the the 21 is now a penalty and a black card. The fact the foul was outside the penalty area was irrelevant.

It wasn't a cynical foul though. If that's classified as one then there'll be 10 black cards awarded a game.
Small was in on goal and was tripped. If that happened on half way line it's not a goal scoring chance and no black card is given. That's the key difference and the reason there wouldn't be 10 black cards a game for that type of foul

Small didn't even have control of ball. A smaller team would have got a free and that's about it.

greatpoint

Another penalty and black card.

greatpoint

Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:36:15 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on May 16, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
Is there not a new rule in that a black card offence + stopping a goalscoring chance = penalty ?

I assumed that's why the pen was given

Cynical foul inside the the 21 is now a penalty and a black card. The fact the foul was outside the penalty area was irrelevant.

It wasn't a cynical foul though. If that's classified as one then there'll be 10 black cards awarded a game.
Not cynical? Really?. There was no attempt to play the ball. A definite deliberate foul.

Why didn't Fenton get a black card just then for the foul in the middle of the park? There was no attempt to play the ball.

macker15


greatpoint

#177
Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:49:41 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:36:15 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on May 16, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
Is there not a new rule in that a black card offence + stopping a goalscoring chance = penalty ?

I assumed that's why the pen was given

Cynical foul inside the the 21 is now a penalty and a black card. The fact the foul was outside the penalty area was irrelevant.

It wasn't a cynical foul though. If that's classified as one then there'll be 10 black cards awarded a game.
Not cynical? Really?. There was no attempt to play the ball. A definite deliberate foul.

Why didn't Fenton get a black card just then for the foul in the middle of the park? There was no attempt to play the ball.

Again, Con O'Callaghan just dragged down a Roscommon player. No attempt to play the ball and no black card.

Rudi

A lot of cynical fouling by Dubs going relatively unpunished.

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:49:41 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:36:15 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on May 16, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
Is there not a new rule in that a black card offence + stopping a goalscoring chance = penalty ?

I assumed that's why the pen was given

Cynical foul inside the the 21 is now a penalty and a black card. The fact the foul was outside the penalty area was irrelevant.

It wasn't a cynical foul though. If that's classified as one then there'll be 10 black cards awarded a game.
Not cynical? Really?. There was no attempt to play the ball. A definite deliberate foul.

Why didn't Fenton get a black card just then for the foul in the middle of the park? There was no attempt to play the ball.
Different rules for Dublin