Division one 2021

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macker15

Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:59:26 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:49:41 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:36:15 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on May 16, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
Is there not a new rule in that a black card offence + stopping a goalscoring chance = penalty ?

I assumed that's why the pen was given

Cynical foul inside the the 21 is now a penalty and a black card. The fact the foul was outside the penalty area was irrelevant.

It wasn't a cynical foul though. If that's classified as one then there'll be 10 black cards awarded a game.
Not cynical? Really?. There was no attempt to play the ball. A definite deliberate foul.

Why didn't Fenton get a black card just then for the foul in the middle of the park? There was no attempt to play the ball.

Again, Con O'Callaghan just dragged down a Roscommon player. No attempt to play the ball and no black card.

A player grabbing near hand and opposing falling/diving to ground doesn't warrant a black card however it I'd grey area that could be looked at.

macker15

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 16, 2021, 03:03:24 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:49:41 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:36:15 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on May 16, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
Is there not a new rule in that a black card offence + stopping a goalscoring chance = penalty ?

I assumed that's why the pen was given

Cynical foul inside the the 21 is now a penalty and a black card. The fact the foul was outside the penalty area was irrelevant.

It wasn't a cynical foul though. If that's classified as one then there'll be 10 black cards awarded a game.
Not cynical? Really?. There was no attempt to play the ball. A definite deliberate foul.

Why didn't Fenton get a black card just then for the foul in the middle of the park? There was no attempt to play the ball.
Different rules for Dublin

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greatpoint

Quote from: macker15 on May 16, 2021, 03:07:13 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:59:26 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:49:41 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:36:15 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on May 16, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
Is there not a new rule in that a black card offence + stopping a goalscoring chance = penalty ?

I assumed that's why the pen was given

Cynical foul inside the the 21 is now a penalty and a black card. The fact the foul was outside the penalty area was irrelevant.

It wasn't a cynical foul though. If that's classified as one then there'll be 10 black cards awarded a game.
Not cynical? Really?. There was no attempt to play the ball. A definite deliberate foul.

Why didn't Fenton get a black card just then for the foul in the middle of the park? There was no attempt to play the ball.

Again, Con O'Callaghan just dragged down a Roscommon player. No attempt to play the ball and no black card.

A player grabbing near hand and opposing falling/diving to ground doesn't warrant a black card however it I'd grey area that could be looked at.

I agree. I think awarding a black card for any foul where there was no attempt to play the ball would result in chaos.

Nanderson

It has to be a black card foul so only a body check or drag down/deliberate trip would result in an automatic penalty

manfromdelmonte

How was that a foot block? He was at least a metre away from the ball being kicked
It was in no way dangerous

dublin7

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 16, 2021, 03:25:09 PM
How was that a foot block? He was at least a metre away from the ball being kicked
It was in no way dangerous
That's hilarious 😂 He dived feet first right in front of him. If you putting together a demonstration video of what a foot block is you could use this as an example

macker15

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 16, 2021, 03:25:09 PM
How was that a foot block? He was at least a metre away from the ball being kicked
It was in no way dangerous

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Rudi

Fair play to Costello, did the decent thing

galwayman

Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:49:41 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:36:15 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on May 16, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
Is there not a new rule in that a black card offence + stopping a goalscoring chance = penalty ?

I assumed that's why the pen was given

Cynical foul inside the the 21 is now a penalty and a black card. The fact the foul was outside the penalty area was irrelevant.

It wasn't a cynical foul though. If that's classified as one then there'll be 10 black cards awarded a game.
Not cynical? Really?. There was no attempt to play the ball. A definite deliberate foul.

Why didn't Fenton get a black card just then for the foul in the middle of the park? There was no attempt to play the ball.
It doesn't matter if there's an attempt to play the ball or not.
There is a list of offences in the rule book that merit a black card. No matter how cynical a foul is - if it isn't on that list it isn't a black card

greatpoint

Quote from: galwayman on May 16, 2021, 03:40:46 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:49:41 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:36:15 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 16, 2021, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on May 16, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 16, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
Is there not a new rule in that a black card offence + stopping a goalscoring chance = penalty ?

I assumed that's why the pen was given

Cynical foul inside the the 21 is now a penalty and a black card. The fact the foul was outside the penalty area was irrelevant.

It wasn't a cynical foul though. If that's classified as one then there'll be 10 black cards awarded a game.
Not cynical? Really?. There was no attempt to play the ball. A definite deliberate foul.

Why didn't Fenton get a black card just then for the foul in the middle of the park? There was no attempt to play the ball.
It doesn't matter if there's an attempt to play the ball or not.
There is a list of offences in the rule book that merit a black card. No matter how cynical a foul is - if it isn't on that list it isn't a black card

I think you need to go back and read the posts you're replying to.

Schkite

I'm not well up on the new rules so maybe I'm missing some new interpretation - but one of the most obvious looking black cards wasn't given at the end of the Monaghan/Armagh first half, when a Monaghan forward was pulled back from being straight through on goal after a poor kickout. I've no idea how the officials arrive at some of these decisions.

straightred

Quote from: Schkite on May 16, 2021, 03:44:58 PM
I'm not well up on the new rules so maybe I'm missing some new interpretation - but one of the most obvious looking black cards wasn't given at the end of the Monaghan/Armagh first half, when a Monaghan forward was pulled back from being straight through on goal after a poor kickout. I've no idea how the officials arrive at some of these decisions.

Bizarre decision. Thought it was also might have been a penalty as well but im not sure. You won't see a clearer black all year though

Rossfan

We weren't disgraced but the inevitable result whenever the MONSTER meets a little rural County.
1st penalty was probably correct
2nd Never.  . How is a forward facing the endline a goal scoring opportunity.
3rd No way either, Niall D was a metre away from the kicker.
We still have no defence or midfield and take an age to get the ball to the Shooters.
I suppose now that game is out of the way we can start engaging with the mini League.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Schkite

Good game of football in this second half between Monaghan and Armagh, trading score for score. 1-11 a piece after 52 minutes

Highlight of the second half imo was a lovely free right on the sideline around the 21 by Aaron Mulligan

Cunny Funt

Quote from: Rossfan on May 16, 2021, 03:56:08 PM
We weren't disgraced but the inevitable result whenever the MONSTER meets a little rural County.
1st penalty was probably correct
2nd Never.  . How is a forward facing the endline a goal scoring opportunity.
3rd No way either, Niall D was a metre away from the kicker.
We still have no defence or midfield and take an age to get the ball to the Shooters.
I suppose now that game is out of the way we can start engaging with the mini League.
None of them should have been penalties. A prime example of a poor ref left more confused by the new rules.

1-11 of Dublins scores came from placed balls, Roscommon have a lot of work to do on their tackling. CiarĂ¡n Murtagh, Donie Smith looked lively.