East wall #Irelandisfull

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Was thinking about this the other day. So explain to me this..., if every country adopted this position i.e. Ireland is full and all the Irish that are abroad including 2nd generations came home, children born to Irish parents abroad, surely Ireland would still be full? What's everyone's thoughts on that?

To me this is one of the stupidest stances to take on anything. Complain about lack of services and housing but blaming a few refugees shows how people lack the critical thinking on this issue.


bennydorano

Quote from: Rudi on October 27, 2023, 10:49:03 AMSimple question, why are Irelands benefits to refugees so high & not in line with other EU countries, all the while working class & middle class are struggling to pay for food & lodgings. Taking in so many refugees (many of them opportunists), when we cant accommodate ourselves is pure bollix. Hopefully FF/FG are finally beginning to see this & stop pandering to far left f*ckwits.

Far left?? Who are they pandering to, its 2 x centre right parties in power ???  Is it not pandering to the EU moreso??

Armagh18

Quote from: trailer on October 27, 2023, 11:14:45 AMWas thinking about this the other day. So explain to me this..., if every country adopted this position i.e. Ireland is full and all the Irish that are abroad including 2nd generations came home, children born to Irish parents abroad, surely Ireland would still be full? What's everyone's thoughts on that?

To me this is one of the stupidest stances to take on anything. Complain about lack of services and housing but blaming a few refugees shows how people lack the critical thinking on this issue.


At least we be full of Irish then lol

imtommygunn

Quote from: trailer on October 27, 2023, 11:14:45 AMWas thinking about this the other day. So explain to me this..., if every country adopted this position i.e. Ireland is full and all the Irish that are abroad including 2nd generations came home, children born to Irish parents abroad, surely Ireland would still be full? What's everyone's thoughts on that?

To me this is one of the stupidest stances to take on anything. Complain about lack of services and housing but blaming a few refugees shows how people lack the critical thinking on this issue.



That bit in bold there for me sums it up. It's easy to fool people into thinking their country is creaking because of all these pesky foreigners coming in but all that does is mask over issues. This is what is currently happening in the UK - keep repeating stop the boats like all your problems will go away. Sure NHS problems were to go away when Brexit happened but they're considerably worse.

Armagh18

Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2023, 11:28:13 AM
Quote from: trailer on October 27, 2023, 11:14:45 AMWas thinking about this the other day. So explain to me this..., if every country adopted this position i.e. Ireland is full and all the Irish that are abroad including 2nd generations came home, children born to Irish parents abroad, surely Ireland would still be full? What's everyone's thoughts on that?

To me this is one of the stupidest stances to take on anything. Complain about lack of services and housing but blaming a few refugees shows how people lack the critical thinking on this issue.



That bit in bold there for me sums it up. It's easy to fool people into thinking their country is creaking because of all these pesky foreigners coming in but all that does is mask over issues. This is what is currently happening in the UK - keep repeating stop the boats like all your problems will go away. Sure NHS problems were to go away when Brexit happened but they're considerably worse.
Very true. But it doesn't need to be mutually exclusive. Should be stopping the boats and sorting out the mess of the nhs.

Milltown Row2

Not up to date with economy shite but...

More people in a country can lead to a larger workforce and easier access to labor. More labor will lead to more products being produced which will then cause economic growth. Population growth allows for the expansion of labor and products which then grows the economy.

Yes it will bring in other crap, but if the infrastructure can be sorted, more hospitals, schools, doctors  health and education workers surely that could grow the economy and everyone wins?

It's not like there isn't room (outside the cities of course)
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

imtommygunn

The NHS was backboned by foreign workers and brexit has caused a bit of an exodus. The NHS is in a more precarious position because of less foreigners not more foreigners.

trailer

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 27, 2023, 11:32:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2023, 11:28:13 AM
Quote from: trailer on October 27, 2023, 11:14:45 AMWas thinking about this the other day. So explain to me this..., if every country adopted this position i.e. Ireland is full and all the Irish that are abroad including 2nd generations came home, children born to Irish parents abroad, surely Ireland would still be full? What's everyone's thoughts on that?

To me this is one of the stupidest stances to take on anything. Complain about lack of services and housing but blaming a few refugees shows how people lack the critical thinking on this issue.



That bit in bold there for me sums it up. It's easy to fool people into thinking their country is creaking because of all these pesky foreigners coming in but all that does is mask over issues. This is what is currently happening in the UK - keep repeating stop the boats like all your problems will go away. Sure NHS problems were to go away when Brexit happened but they're considerably worse.
Very true. But it doesn't need to be mutually exclusive. Should be stopping the boats and sorting out the mess of the nhs.

Why do you want to stop the boats?

JoG2

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 27, 2023, 11:32:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2023, 11:28:13 AM
Quote from: trailer on October 27, 2023, 11:14:45 AMWas thinking about this the other day. So explain to me this..., if every country adopted this position i.e. Ireland is full and all the Irish that are abroad including 2nd generations came home, children born to Irish parents abroad, surely Ireland would still be full? What's everyone's thoughts on that?

To me this is one of the stupidest stances to take on anything. Complain about lack of services and housing but blaming a few refugees shows how people lack the critical thinking on this issue.



That bit in bold there for me sums it up. It's easy to fool people into thinking their country is creaking because of all these pesky foreigners coming in but all that does is mask over issues. This is what is currently happening in the UK - keep repeating stop the boats like all your problems will go away. Sure NHS problems were to go away when Brexit happened but they're considerably worse.
Very true. But it doesn't need to be mutually exclusive. Should be stopping the boats and sorting out the mess of the nhs.

WTF?

Irish calling for humanitarian aid in Palestine, but low and behold immigrants, who are beyond desperate, might want / need a bit of humanitarian aid on our shores

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Quote from: JoG2 on October 27, 2023, 01:02:19 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 27, 2023, 11:32:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2023, 11:28:13 AM
Quote from: trailer on October 27, 2023, 11:14:45 AMWas thinking about this the other day. So explain to me this..., if every country adopted this position i.e. Ireland is full and all the Irish that are abroad including 2nd generations came home, children born to Irish parents abroad, surely Ireland would still be full? What's everyone's thoughts on that?

To me this is one of the stupidest stances to take on anything. Complain about lack of services and housing but blaming a few refugees shows how people lack the critical thinking on this issue.



That bit in bold there for me sums it up. It's easy to fool people into thinking their country is creaking because of all these pesky foreigners coming in but all that does is mask over issues. This is what is currently happening in the UK - keep repeating stop the boats like all your problems will go away. Sure NHS problems were to go away when Brexit happened but they're considerably worse.
Very true. But it doesn't need to be mutually exclusive. Should be stopping the boats and sorting out the mess of the nhs.

WTF?

Irish calling for humanitarian aid in Palestine, but low and behold immigrants, who are beyond desperate, might want / need a bit of humanitarian aid on our shores

People have no ability to think logically about this. A real lack of intelligence. Just Neanderthal thinking.

armaghniac

Quote from: JoG2 on October 27, 2023, 01:02:19 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 27, 2023, 11:32:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2023, 11:28:13 AM
Quote from: trailer on October 27, 2023, 11:14:45 AMWas thinking about this the other day. So explain to me this..., if every country adopted this position i.e. Ireland is full and all the Irish that are abroad including 2nd generations came home, children born to Irish parents abroad, surely Ireland would still be full? What's everyone's thoughts on that?

To me this is one of the stupidest stances to take on anything. Complain about lack of services and housing but blaming a few refugees shows how people lack the critical thinking on this issue.



That bit in bold there for me sums it up. It's easy to fool people into thinking their country is creaking because of all these pesky foreigners coming in but all that does is mask over issues. This is what is currently happening in the UK - keep repeating stop the boats like all your problems will go away. Sure NHS problems were to go away when Brexit happened but they're considerably worse.
Very true. But it doesn't need to be mutually exclusive. Should be stopping the boats and sorting out the mess of the nhs.

WTF?

Irish calling for humanitarian aid in Palestine, but low and behold immigrants, who are beyond desperate, might want / need a bit of humanitarian aid on our shores

That is simplistic, there are many people who need help more than many of the immigrants who pitch up on our shores.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Rudi

Quote from: armaghniac on October 27, 2023, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 27, 2023, 01:02:19 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 27, 2023, 11:32:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2023, 11:28:13 AM
Quote from: trailer on October 27, 2023, 11:14:45 AMWas thinking about this the other day. So explain to me this..., if every country adopted this position i.e. Ireland is full and all the Irish that are abroad including 2nd generations came home, children born to Irish parents abroad, surely Ireland would still be full? What's everyone's thoughts on that?

To me this is one of the stupidest stances to take on anything. Complain about lack of services and housing but blaming a few refugees shows how people lack the critical thinking on this issue.



That bit in bold there for me sums it up. It's easy to fool people into thinking their country is creaking because of all these pesky foreigners coming in but all that does is mask over issues. This is what is currently happening in the UK - keep repeating stop the boats like all your problems will go away. Sure NHS problems were to go away when Brexit happened but they're considerably worse.
Very true. But it doesn't need to be mutually exclusive. Should be stopping the boats and sorting out the mess of the nhs.

WTF?

Irish calling for humanitarian aid in Palestine, but low and behold immigrants, who are beyond desperate, might want / need a bit of humanitarian aid on our shores

That is simplistic, there are many people who need help more than many of the immigrants who pitch up on our shores.

Incredible you have to explain this to people, but you're either a racist or a neanderthal. Both of these words have by now have lost their meaning, through misuse. We cant take three quarters of the world in.

JoG2

Quote from: Rudi on October 27, 2023, 01:23:30 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 27, 2023, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 27, 2023, 01:02:19 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 27, 2023, 11:32:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2023, 11:28:13 AM
Quote from: trailer on October 27, 2023, 11:14:45 AMWas thinking about this the other day. So explain to me this..., if every country adopted this position i.e. Ireland is full and all the Irish that are abroad including 2nd generations came home, children born to Irish parents abroad, surely Ireland would still be full? What's everyone's thoughts on that?

To me this is one of the stupidest stances to take on anything. Complain about lack of services and housing but blaming a few refugees shows how people lack the critical thinking on this issue.



That bit in bold there for me sums it up. It's easy to fool people into thinking their country is creaking because of all these pesky foreigners coming in but all that does is mask over issues. This is what is currently happening in the UK - keep repeating stop the boats like all your problems will go away. Sure NHS problems were to go away when Brexit happened but they're considerably worse.
Very true. But it doesn't need to be mutually exclusive. Should be stopping the boats and sorting out the mess of the nhs.

WTF?

Irish calling for humanitarian aid in Palestine, but low and behold immigrants, who are beyond desperate, might want / need a bit of humanitarian aid on our shores

That is simplistic, there are many people who need help more than many of the immigrants who pitch up on our shores.

Incredible you have to explain this to people, but you're either a racist or a neanderthal. Both of these words have by now have lost their meaning, through misuse. We cant take three quarters of the world in.

Create a bogeyman, rince and repeat.

trailer

Quote from: Rudi on October 27, 2023, 01:23:30 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 27, 2023, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 27, 2023, 01:02:19 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 27, 2023, 11:32:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2023, 11:28:13 AM
Quote from: trailer on October 27, 2023, 11:14:45 AMWas thinking about this the other day. So explain to me this..., if every country adopted this position i.e. Ireland is full and all the Irish that are abroad including 2nd generations came home, children born to Irish parents abroad, surely Ireland would still be full? What's everyone's thoughts on that?

To me this is one of the stupidest stances to take on anything. Complain about lack of services and housing but blaming a few refugees shows how people lack the critical thinking on this issue.



That bit in bold there for me sums it up. It's easy to fool people into thinking their country is creaking because of all these pesky foreigners coming in but all that does is mask over issues. This is what is currently happening in the UK - keep repeating stop the boats like all your problems will go away. Sure NHS problems were to go away when Brexit happened but they're considerably worse.
Very true. But it doesn't need to be mutually exclusive. Should be stopping the boats and sorting out the mess of the nhs.

WTF?

Irish calling for humanitarian aid in Palestine, but low and behold immigrants, who are beyond desperate, might want / need a bit of humanitarian aid on our shores

That is simplistic, there are many people who need help more than many of the immigrants who pitch up on our shores.

Incredible you have to explain this to people, but you're either a racist or a neanderthal. Both of these words have by now have lost their meaning, through misuse. We cant take three quarters of the world in.

If the cap fits...

Milltown Row2

As long as the conflicts and refugees are in other countries far away it seems we can verbalise support, even stop buying jaffa oranges, send them aid and so on, flip even march to city hall and complain, but the minute one of those scrounging thieving rapists enter our shores we want them back over from were they came from!

Ah.. just build the wall!!!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea