Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[AustinPowers]

Has Von Der Lederhosen  deleted her Russian tweet from  last year yet?

A vile disgusting  human being. We're seeing a lot of those lately with  their  support for  Israel.

[Milltown Row2]

Rachel Riley has all the latest Israeli fabrications to justify carpet bombing Gaza

https://twitter.com/RachelRileyRR

Seriously Rachel Riley?

Yeah she's been very outspoken for years in support of Isreal and regularly spouts anti-palestine propaganda.
Too much airtime being given to these pro-isreali mouthpieces who just regurgitate the Isreali state propaganda as fact.

I've no doubt Hamas have performed atrocities, but not at the same scale as the Isreali state has against the Palestinian people. There has been a systematic process of ethnic cleansing by Isreal for decades, landgrabbing and murdering, all in contravention to international law.
What does the world expect to happen under those circumstances? Isreal breaking the law, Palestinians suffering under their boot and yet Isreal is backed by the West. People will try to fight back themselves or they will support/elect people who will fight back on their behalf. Not all Palestinians will fully buy into the ethos of Hamas but they will still elect them as they will see them as their protectors. Hamas can only exist whilst the Palestinian people are being treated in this way by Isreal.
Hamas being declare terrorists is like calling the people of Ukraine terrorists for fighting back against a Russian agressor/occupier. I'm sure the Ukrainians have performed despicable acts, but they have the backing of the west (rightly in my opinion) as it's against the Russians. In this case the Isreali's have so much foreign clout that they have the backing of the west even though they are the agressor/occupier.

The people of Palestine have a bleak outlook, in no small part down to the actions of the British since the end of WW2.

The term anti-sematic is thrown out there at anyone who opposes the Israeli state and their actions. That's a despicable view, especially given how Jews suffered in holocaust. It's not anti-Jewish to be anti-Israel.

My point is on Rachel. Who takes her seriously? This is the girl from Countdown? puts numbers and words up on a board?  holy f**k the world is fucked if anyone even gives her the time of day never mind quoting her on current affairs.

If you are looking to be pissed off about something/anything you'll find it in twitter, cesspit

[seafoid]

Riley is part of a network of pro Israeli gatekeepers who disseminate the latest war lies. They have a really weird predator/victim position.

[johnnycool]

Rachel Riley has all the latest Israeli fabrications to justify carpet bombing Gaza

https://twitter.com/RachelRileyRR

Seriously Rachel Riley?

Yeah she's been very outspoken for years in support of Isreal and regularly spouts anti-palestine propaganda.
Too much airtime being given to these pro-isreali mouthpieces who just regurgitate the Isreali state propaganda as fact.

I've no doubt Hamas have performed atrocities, but not at the same scale as the Isreali state has against the Palestinian people. There has been a systematic process of ethnic cleansing by Isreal for decades, landgrabbing and murdering, all in contravention to international law.
What does the world expect to happen under those circumstances? Isreal breaking the law, Palestinians suffering under their boot and yet Isreal is backed by the West. People will try to fight back themselves or they will support/elect people who will fight back on their behalf. Not all Palestinians will fully buy into the ethos of Hamas but they will still elect them as they will see them as their protectors. Hamas can only exist whilst the Palestinian people are being treated in this way by Isreal.
Hamas being declare terrorists is like calling the people of Ukraine terrorists for fighting back against a Russian agressor/occupier. I'm sure the Ukrainians have performed despicable acts, but they have the backing of the west (rightly in my opinion) as it's against the Russians. In this case the Isreali's have so much foreign clout that they have the backing of the west even though they are the agressor/occupier.

The people of Palestine have a bleak outlook, in no small part down to the actions of the British since the end of WW2.

The term anti-sematic is thrown out there at anyone who opposes the Israeli state and their actions. That's a despicable view, especially given how Jews suffered in holocaust. It's not anti-Jewish to be anti-Israel.

My point is on Rachel. Who takes her seriously? This is the girl from Countdown? puts numbers and words up on a board?  holy f**k the world is fucked if anyone even gives her the time of day never mind quoting her on current affairs.

If you are looking to be pissed off about something/anything you'll find it in twitter, cesspit

She was one of the main cheerleaders who went after Corbyn and ultimately led to his downfall by sowing the seeds in the red top voters that he was anti-Semitic when he was pointing out the sins of the Zionist Israeli Gov.

The Jewish lobby has a stranglehold on British Politics and Media.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

Rachel Riley has all the latest Israeli fabrications to justify carpet bombing Gaza

https://twitter.com/RachelRileyRR

Seriously Rachel Riley?

Yeah she's been very outspoken for years in support of Isreal and regularly spouts anti-palestine propaganda.
Too much airtime being given to these pro-isreali mouthpieces who just regurgitate the Isreali state propaganda as fact.

I've no doubt Hamas have performed atrocities, but not at the same scale as the Isreali state has against the Palestinian people. There has been a systematic process of ethnic cleansing by Isreal for decades, landgrabbing and murdering, all in contravention to international law.
What does the world expect to happen under those circumstances? Isreal breaking the law, Palestinians suffering under their boot and yet Isreal is backed by the West. People will try to fight back themselves or they will support/elect people who will fight back on their behalf. Not all Palestinians will fully buy into the ethos of Hamas but they will still elect them as they will see them as their protectors. Hamas can only exist whilst the Palestinian people are being treated in this way by Isreal.
Hamas being declare terrorists is like calling the people of Ukraine terrorists for fighting back against a Russian agressor/occupier. I'm sure the Ukrainians have performed despicable acts, but they have the backing of the west (rightly in my opinion) as it's against the Russians. In this case the Isreali's have so much foreign clout that they have the backing of the west even though they are the agressor/occupier.

The people of Palestine have a bleak outlook, in no small part down to the actions of the British since the end of WW2.

The term anti-sematic is thrown out there at anyone who opposes the Israeli state and their actions. That's a despicable view, especially given how Jews suffered in holocaust. It's not anti-Jewish to be anti-Israel.

My point is on Rachel. Who takes her seriously? This is the girl from Countdown? puts numbers and words up on a board?  holy f**k the world is fucked if anyone even gives her the time of day never mind quoting her on current affairs.

If you are looking to be pissed off about something/anything you'll find it in twitter, cesspit

She was one of the main cheerleaders who went after Corbyn and ultimately led to his downfall by sowing the seeds in the red top voters that he was anti-Semitic when he was pointing out the sins of the Zionist Israeli Gov.

The Jewish lobby has a stranglehold on British Politics and Media.

the Israeli/Zionist lobby. you are using anti semitic tropes.

Imo the BOD, Riley, Collier, Baddiel, Tracy oberman, Margaret hodge, Jason Ryan, David Lammy et Al. probably have a reach of over 2/3million on twitter

 continually attempt to conflate Anti semitism with anti Zionists

[armaghniac]

I've no doubt Hamas have performed atrocities, but not at the same scale as the Isreali state has against the Palestinian people. There has been a systematic process of ethnic cleansing by Isreal for decades, landgrabbing and murdering, all in contravention to international law.
What does the world expect to happen under those circumstances? Isreal breaking the law, Palestinians suffering under their boot and yet Isreal is backed by the West. People will try to fight back themselves or they will support/elect people who will fight back on their behalf. Not all Palestinians will fully buy into the ethos of Hamas but they will still elect them as they will see them as their protectors. Hamas can only exist whilst the Palestinian people are being treated in this way by Isreal.
Hamas being declare terrorists is like calling the people of Ukraine terrorists for fighting back against a Russian agressor/occupier. I'm sure the Ukrainians have performed despicable acts, but they have the backing of the west (rightly in my opinion) as it's against the Russians. In this case the Isreali's have so much foreign clout that they have the backing of the west even though they are the agressor/occupier.

Hamas has not committed the same scale of atrocity because it has not got the capacity, it is not because it is not their policy to do so. It is not analogous to Ukraine, the Ukrainians have no particular wish to invade Russia or exterminate its people and the Russians had no reason for any military action whatsoever in Ukraine.

Do the Israelis not see the irony of starving & denying 2.2 million people their basis human rights. Whats their end game, death to all Palestinians. This is a reverse holocaust. Really disgusting stuff, as the leaders of the western world look on & support.
A ceasefire immediately, peace keepers from the UN, with humanitarian aid should be the worlds number 1 priority. 

Of course many Israelis do, as recent editorials in newspapers etc show. But there is a hard line faction in government. It is an extreme version of what you see in England, the majority in England did not support a macho Brexit but the extremists had the louder voice. 

The whole thing is depressing.

At least Varadkar and now Mary Robinson on radio are quite clear about the crimes of cutting off water and she is demanding that Isreal and Hamas both be held to account before the International Criminal court

[tonto1888]

Wonder if Mary Lou asked her pals in Hamas about the time they tossed gay people off a roof when she met with them a few years ago

Ive seen this mentioned before. I know Hamas executed one of their commanders because they charged him with having gay sex. More likely he was passing info to Israel and they didnt want that getting out? Is this what youre referring to? Ive seen articles about ISIS throwing gay people of roofs in Libya also

[tonto1888]

Has Von Der Lederhosen  deleted her Russian tweet from  last year yet?

A vile disgusting  human being. We're seeing a lot of those lately with  their  support for  Israel.

I have blocked quite a few people on twitter.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

I've no doubt Hamas have performed atrocities, but not at the same scale as the Isreali state has against the Palestinian people. There has been a systematic process of ethnic cleansing by Isreal for decades, landgrabbing and murdering, all in contravention to international law.
What does the world expect to happen under those circumstances? Isreal breaking the law, Palestinians suffering under their boot and yet Isreal is backed by the West. People will try to fight back themselves or they will support/elect people who will fight back on their behalf. Not all Palestinians will fully buy into the ethos of Hamas but they will still elect them as they will see them as their protectors. Hamas can only exist whilst the Palestinian people are being treated in this way by Isreal.
Hamas being declare terrorists is like calling the people of Ukraine terrorists for fighting back against a Russian agressor/occupier. I'm sure the Ukrainians have performed despicable acts, but they have the backing of the west (rightly in my opinion) as it's against the Russians. In this case the Isreali's have so much foreign clout that they have the backing of the west even though they are the agressor/occupier.

Hamas has not committed the same scale of atrocity because it has not got the capacity, it is not because it is not their policy to do so. It is not analogous to Ukraine, the Ukrainians have no particular wish to invade Russia or exterminate its people and the Russians had no reason for any military action whatsoever in Ukraine.

Do the Israelis not see the irony of starving & denying 2.2 million people their basis human rights. Whats their end game, death to all Palestinians. This is a reverse holocaust. Really disgusting stuff, as the leaders of the western world look on & support.
A ceasefire immediately, peace keepers from the UN, with humanitarian aid should be the worlds number 1 priority. 

Of course many Israelis do, as recent editorials in newspapers etc show. But there is a hard line faction in government. It is an extreme version of what you see in England, the majority in England did not support a macho Brexit but the extremists had the louder voice. 

The whole thing is depressing.

At least Varadkar and now Mary Robinson on radio are quite clear about the crimes of cutting off water and she is demanding that Isreal and Hamas both be held to account before the International Criminal court

Wow, what you just wrote is Israel is just doing this as they have a very right wing govt, what accuse are you willing to provide for the other 75 years and 16 years of a blockade on Gaza.

and to top it off you suggest Hamas are just a murderous grp who would commit more atrocities if they could when you have 75 years plus of evidence of Irsaeli atrocities including the funding and creation of Hamas if you like.

If you looked into Hamas a bit more and didn't blindly follow Israeli propaganda/hasbara you would know they won elections in Gaza, offered a 10 year ceasefire but US/eu decide not the right type of democracy for them. I am not trying to paint them as the good guys but in terms of evidence of atrocities, there is far more examples and evidence of Israel committing them.

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I've no doubt Hamas have performed atrocities, but not at the same scale as the Isreali state has against the Palestinian people. There has been a systematic process of ethnic cleansing by Isreal for decades, landgrabbing and murdering, all in contravention to international law.
What does the world expect to happen under those circumstances? Isreal breaking the law, Palestinians suffering under their boot and yet Isreal is backed by the West. People will try to fight back themselves or they will support/elect people who will fight back on their behalf. Not all Palestinians will fully buy into the ethos of Hamas but they will still elect them as they will see them as their protectors. Hamas can only exist whilst the Palestinian people are being treated in this way by Isreal.
Hamas being declare terrorists is like calling the people of Ukraine terrorists for fighting back against a Russian agressor/occupier. I'm sure the Ukrainians have performed despicable acts, but they have the backing of the west (rightly in my opinion) as it's against the Russians. In this case the Isreali's have so much foreign clout that they have the backing of the west even though they are the agressor/occupier.

Hamas has not committed the same scale of atrocity because it has not got the capacity, it is not because it is not their policy to do so. It is not analogous to Ukraine, the Ukrainians have no particular wish to invade Russia or exterminate its people and the Russians had no reason for any military action whatsoever in Ukraine.

Do the Israelis not see the irony of starving & denying 2.2 million people their basis human rights. Whats their end game, death to all Palestinians. This is a reverse holocaust. Really disgusting stuff, as the leaders of the western world look on & support.
A ceasefire immediately, peace keepers from the UN, with humanitarian aid should be the worlds number 1 priority. 

Of course many Israelis do, as recent editorials in newspapers etc show. But there is a hard line faction in government. It is an extreme version of what you see in England, the majority in England did not support a macho Brexit but the extremists had the louder voice. 

The whole thing is depressing.

At least Varadkar and now Mary Robinson on radio are quite clear about the crimes of cutting off water and she is demanding that Isreal and Hamas both be held to account before the International Criminal court

Wow, what you just wrote is Israel is just doing this as they have a very right wing govt, what accuse are you willing to provide for the other 75 years and 16 years of a blockade on Gaza.

and to top it off you suggest Hamas are just a murderous grp who would commit more atrocities if they could when you have 75 years plus of evidence of Irsaeli atrocities including the funding and creation of Hamas if you like.

If you looked into Hamas a bit more and didn't blindly follow Israeli propaganda/hasbara you would know they won elections in Gaza, offered a 10 year ceasefire but US/eu decide not the right type of democracy for them. I am not trying to paint them as the good guys but in terms of evidence of atrocities, there is far more examples and evidence of Israel committing them.

Murdering those people at that festival is not the behaviour of a government army. Their leaders should be on trial for war crimes and I hope one day that they are.
I also hope the Netanyahu is equally tried.

Whataboutery is not a defence.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

I've no doubt Hamas have performed atrocities, but not at the same scale as the Isreali state has against the Palestinian people. There has been a systematic process of ethnic cleansing by Isreal for decades, landgrabbing and murdering, all in contravention to international law.
What does the world expect to happen under those circumstances? Isreal breaking the law, Palestinians suffering under their boot and yet Isreal is backed by the West. People will try to fight back themselves or they will support/elect people who will fight back on their behalf. Not all Palestinians will fully buy into the ethos of Hamas but they will still elect them as they will see them as their protectors. Hamas can only exist whilst the Palestinian people are being treated in this way by Isreal.
Hamas being declare terrorists is like calling the people of Ukraine terrorists for fighting back against a Russian agressor/occupier. I'm sure the Ukrainians have performed despicable acts, but they have the backing of the west (rightly in my opinion) as it's against the Russians. In this case the Isreali's have so much foreign clout that they have the backing of the west even though they are the agressor/occupier.

Hamas has not committed the same scale of atrocity because it has not got the capacity, it is not because it is not their policy to do so. It is not analogous to Ukraine, the Ukrainians have no particular wish to invade Russia or exterminate its people and the Russians had no reason for any military action whatsoever in Ukraine.

Do the Israelis not see the irony of starving & denying 2.2 million people their basis human rights. Whats their end game, death to all Palestinians. This is a reverse holocaust. Really disgusting stuff, as the leaders of the western world look on & support.
A ceasefire immediately, peace keepers from the UN, with humanitarian aid should be the worlds number 1 priority. 

Of course many Israelis do, as recent editorials in newspapers etc show. But there is a hard line faction in government. It is an extreme version of what you see in England, the majority in England did not support a macho Brexit but the extremists had the louder voice. 

The whole thing is depressing.

At least Varadkar and now Mary Robinson on radio are quite clear about the crimes of cutting off water and she is demanding that Isreal and Hamas both be held to account before the International Criminal court

Wow, what you just wrote is Israel is just doing this as they have a very right wing govt, what accuse are you willing to provide for the other 75 years and 16 years of a blockade on Gaza.

and to top it off you suggest Hamas are just a murderous grp who would commit more atrocities if they could when you have 75 years plus of evidence of Irsaeli atrocities including the funding and creation of Hamas if you like.

If you looked into Hamas a bit more and didn't blindly follow Israeli propaganda/hasbara you would know they won elections in Gaza, offered a 10 year ceasefire but US/eu decide not the right type of democracy for them. I am not trying to paint them as the good guys but in terms of evidence of atrocities, there is far more examples and evidence of Israel committing them.

Murdering those people at that festival is not the behaviour of a government army. Their leaders should be on trial for war crimes and I hope one day that they are.
I also hope the Netanyahu is equally tried.

Whataboutery is not a defence.

It has been the behaviour of govt armies around the world for centuries, it is the behaviour of Israel right now and people would argue Russia right now, the Saudis in Yemen.

In terms of brutality Israeli crimes far outweigh anything Hamas has done. Again to be clear both have committed war crimes.

[Sportacus]

Do the Israelis not see the irony of starving & denying 2.2 million people their basis human rights. Whats their end game, death to all Palestinians. This is a reverse holocaust. Really disgusting stuff, as the leaders of the western world look on & support.
A ceasefire immediately, peace keepers from the UN, with humanitarian aid should be the worlds number 1 priority. 

Switching off the water is very hard to read any other way than an all out punishment on every Palestinian in Gaza, and completely blows the line that their operations are targeted only at Hamas.  It's sickening to see world leaders give them a free pass on it.

[armaghniac]

If you looked into Hamas a bit more and didn't blindly follow Israeli propaganda/hasbara you would know they won elections in Gaza, offered a 10 year ceasefire but US/eu decide not the right type of democracy for them. I am not trying to paint them as the good guys but in terms of evidence of atrocities, there is far more examples and evidence of Israel committing them.

Hamas may be made peaceful overtures in the past but I have the example of Hamas recent actions. They could have made a useful point by attacking military bases and tearing down the fence, but instead their main objective was killing random civilians at a rock concert.

[trailer]

If you looked into Hamas a bit more and didn't blindly follow Israeli propaganda/hasbara you would know they won elections in Gaza, offered a 10 year ceasefire but US/eu decide not the right type of democracy for them. I am not trying to paint them as the good guys but in terms of evidence of atrocities, there is far more examples and evidence of Israel committing them.

Hamas may be made peaceful overtures in the past but I have the example of Hamas recent actions. They could have made a useful point by attacking military bases and tearing down the fence, but instead their main objective was killing random civilians at a rock concert.

Definitely a step change in public opinion in regards to Hamas. Their recent attacks have done nothing to help the Palestinian cause.

[seafoid]

Has Von Der Lederhosen  deleted her Russian tweet from  last year yet?

A vile disgusting  human being. We're seeing a lot of those lately with  their  support for  Israel.

It's a very interesting time to be Irish when you see what is happening in UK politics with the 2 big parties outdoing themselves to service Israel. Ireland was one of 4 countries that prevented the EU from cutting humanitarian aid to the Palestinians. History really matters in situations like now.