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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Under New Management
« on: June 17, 2021, 03:58:57 PM »
This is mad. They're eating themselves.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: June 17, 2021, 02:14:50 PM »
I was talking to another boy about this before and we were laughing that it would need to be the greatest con in history times about a million if COVID were just a big scam.

Have there been people out there who have exploited it - I have absolutely no doubt there but to think this is a great plan and the vaccine passports are a replacement for I’d cards is just nonsense. The man power doesn’t exist in the world for the government to watch everyone. Here is an example... the guy who orchestrated the Paris bombings was under surveillance, yes under surveillance, and they still happened. Not just by one government by multiple.

You wouldn't be suspicious of Tony Blair pushing for vaccine passports to be rolled out then?

I wouldn't. Tony Blair hasn't been in power in nearly 15 years.

Tony Blair himself didn’t come up with the ID cards idea. He was just a spokesman for the British government.  Just because he’s no longer British PM, doesn’t mean the ID card idea has been forgotten about.

What is the exact issue with ID cards anyway. We all have tracking devices in our pockets anyway. Anyone who travels or drives has an ID card. Like what is the f**king issue? If I apply for a mortgage or a new bank account I need to prove my identity and my address. People get worked up about the stupidest things. 

I wish my life was so interesting that the government wanted to know what I was up to. 

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: June 17, 2021, 01:27:27 PM »
Sinn Fein will get shafted by the Tories on this …can’t believe they are going to trust them on it and nominate a DFM
Will they? I’d say it’ll be similar to the abortion and gay marriage issue in that the Brits stepping in allows both sides to save face.

Do you trust the Tories to keep their word?

SF looking to the UK parliament, a parliament that they don't take their seats in and that they don't recognise its authority to pass Irish Language act is next level hypocrisy.

Anyway I am glad that Stormont hasn't fallen and everyone can get on with the important work of governing this place.

It might be Ironic but I dont see how it is hypocrisy unless you think the idea of them even being in stormont is hypocrisy.

SF constantly tell us that WM doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. That other Nationalists are seeming less Irish for taking their seats. And now all of a sudden they are happy for a Parliament that they don't recognise or take their seats in to make laws for the North. That is pure hypocrisy.

The SDLP are constantly telling us that you need to take your seats in Westminster to have any influence. Yet SF have done "from the sidelines" what the SDLP have not been able to do form the green benches.

So:
Language Act deal achieved
DUP weakened
Abstentionist policy vindicated (again)
SDLP widely exposed as cynical opportunists

Not a bad few days work from those big bad shinners.

Apart from attempting to facilitate DUP intransigence on the Irish language, what else have the SDLP been doing these last few days?

Colm's still working on stopping Brexit, I think.

Apparently him and Martina Anderson. Shes bringing the bin lids

Colum Eastwood Social Democratic & Labour Party
26,881

Elisha McCallion Sinn Féin
9,771

Majority 17110


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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: June 17, 2021, 01:10:10 PM »
I was talking to another boy about this before and we were laughing that it would need to be the greatest con in history times about a million if COVID were just a big scam.

Have there been people out there who have exploited it - I have absolutely no doubt there but to think this is a great plan and the vaccine passports are a replacement for I’d cards is just nonsense. The man power doesn’t exist in the world for the government to watch everyone. Here is an example... the guy who orchestrated the Paris bombings was under surveillance, yes under surveillance, and they still happened. Not just by one government by multiple.

You wouldn't be suspicious of Tony Blair pushing for vaccine passports to be rolled out then?

I wouldn't. Tony Blair hasn't been in power in nearly 15 years.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: June 17, 2021, 12:43:08 PM »
Sinn Fein will get shafted by the Tories on this …can’t believe they are going to trust them on it and nominate a DFM
Will they? I’d say it’ll be similar to the abortion and gay marriage issue in that the Brits stepping in allows both sides to save face.

Do you trust the Tories to keep their word?

SF looking to the UK parliament, a parliament that they don't take their seats in and that they don't recognise its authority to pass Irish Language act is next level hypocrisy.

Anyway I am glad that Stormont hasn't fallen and everyone can get on with the important work of governing this place.

Or another way of looking at it is that SF got the British government to do what the stoops, who don't abstain, could not.

Has to be said, the SDLP really did make an utter mess of it the past few weeks. Out-maneuvered by SF and shown up to have attempted to facilitate then exploit the DUP's bad faith in order to attack the shinners. They deserve the heavy criticism they are now getting. Even this morning on GMU, when most people can see this has been a SF success, Nicola Mallon could barely bring herself to attacking the DUP position through it all. It was just a litany of anti-SF verbals. Do the SDLP stand for anything at all beyond attacking SF?

Cool story bro.

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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Under New Management
« on: June 17, 2021, 12:26:28 PM »
BREAKING NEWS

It has been revealed that Edwin Poots did NOT consult with DUP officials regarding the deal struck with the Secretary of State and when it comes to nominating Paul Givan as First Minister he needs those votes. Very very interesting development as we may actually NOT get the support regarding this deal. Will we have another stalemate? Stay tuned folks.

Poots nominated him anyway!! Should be good craic over the next few days.

20 against 4 for. I don't know where this will end up.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: June 17, 2021, 11:55:03 AM »
Donnie O'Sullivan (Kerry Man) who works with CNN spends his time interviewing conspiracy theorists and people who have been radicalised by Trump/Facebook/The Internet/etc. He is worth a follow.

A lot of it comes down to the fact that the world we live in is very complicated with nuances that are just not easily explained. And for people with a low intelligence or mental illness (even a mild one), these things are difficult to get their heads around. They seek solace in simplicity, it's all shady governments or big pharma or big tech. The world is pure chaos. Like a pandemic for fucks sake. It's just mental to think 18 months ago this was unimaginable. People struggle to understand and to explain it. They need a simple explanation and the reality is there isn't one. They then take an even more dangerous path into conspiracy theories.

If you find yourself in this spiral you need to stop. Reach out to someone and seek help.

Aye, and I’m sure the British government/media put it about since the early 70’s that Bloody Sunday and Ballymurphy were conspiracy theories. Were  the families of both atrocities just “conspiracy theorists” for continually pushing for proper enquiries and ultimately, the truth? Were those seeking justice for clerical abuse conspiracy theorists? How about the families of the 96 Hillsborough victims?

If this pandemic has reinforced anything, it’s the amount of times we have been continually lied to, and we just cannot trust politicians , governments and media. Anyone  rolling the eyes at people taking an alternative view has to ask themselves 3 questions: do you trust everything politicians tell you? Do you trust everything governments tell you? Do you trust everything the media tells you? I will guarantee 100% of the posters on this forum wouldn’t answer ‘yes’ to all three, if indeed any. There’s your starting point...

You know what you are right. I don't always trust the British government. Or indeed the Chinese or American governments. But I would trust them ALL AND ALL the scientists when they say there is a pandemic, it is killing otherwise healthy people and we should get vaccinated (and there is a number of different vaccines)

You think that all the "big" pharma companies in conjunction with all the governments in the world, many who cannot stand the sight of each other, have put their differences aside to enslave the entire world population?

We can all pick out something that happened previously, and use it as fact that nobody can be trusted, but it simply isn't true. You can not trust the Briitsh government on one issue but you can on another and you can trust or not trust them on lots of different issues to different degrees all at the same time. The world is chaos it is not black and white.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: June 17, 2021, 11:41:57 AM »
This is a good outcome for the DUP, they haven’t “given in”. Westminster will take it out of their hands and they can complain now and again about it

I'd disagree. I think this is a disaster for the DUP and Poots leadership. He looks weak. He has started a chain of events and no one knows where it'll end.

It was the least worst option for them. If Stormont had collapsed and they had been facing an election, they could have been left staring into the abyss. They will have to face that music at some stage in the future but for a new leadership it was the only practical decision they could make.

Yeah they are totally painted into a corner and it wouldn't be so bad if they were a united party but they are so fractious that every option now is a disaster.

I am worried that collapsing Stormont is a legitimate negotiating tactic. What if the DUP want to collapse Stormont over the Protocol? Or some other issue?
Then we’re looking at an election where they’ll get their arses handed to them and inevitably a border poll.

Listen, Stormont needs to work. Even in a New Ireland Stormont isn't going anywhere. Don't be so naive.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: June 17, 2021, 11:05:20 AM »
This is a good outcome for the DUP, they haven’t “given in”. Westminster will take it out of their hands and they can complain now and again about it

I'd disagree. I think this is a disaster for the DUP and Poots leadership. He looks weak. He has started a chain of events and no one knows where it'll end.

It was the least worst option for them. If Stormont had collapsed and they had been facing an election, they could have been left staring into the abyss. They will have to face that music at some stage in the future but for a new leadership it was the only practical decision they could make.

Yeah they are totally painted into a corner and it wouldn't be so bad if they were a united party but they are so fractious that every option now is a disaster.

I am worried that collapsing Stormont is a legitimate negotiating tactic. What if the DUP want to collapse Stormont over the Protocol? Or some other issue?

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: June 17, 2021, 10:52:50 AM »
Sinn Fein will get shafted by the Tories on this …can’t believe they are going to trust them on it and nominate a DFM
Will they? I’d say it’ll be similar to the abortion and gay marriage issue in that the Brits stepping in allows both sides to save face.

Do you trust the Tories to keep their word?

SF looking to the UK parliament, a parliament that they don't take their seats in and that they don't recognise its authority to pass Irish Language act is next level hypocrisy.

Anyway I am glad that Stormont hasn't fallen and everyone can get on with the important work of governing this place.

It might be Ironic but I dont see how it is hypocrisy unless you think the idea of them even being in stormont is hypocrisy.

SF constantly tell us that WM doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. That other Nationalists are seeming less Irish for taking their seats. And now all of a sudden they are happy for a Parliament that they don't recognise or take their seats in to make laws for the North. That is pure hypocrisy.


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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: June 17, 2021, 10:49:29 AM »
This is a good outcome for the DUP, they haven’t “given in”. Westminster will take it out of their hands and they can complain now and again about it

I'd disagree. I think this is a disaster for the DUP and Poots leadership. He looks weak. He has started a chain of events and no one knows where it'll end.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: June 17, 2021, 10:44:14 AM »
Yet again it takes the British Government, a useless, hateful Tory government at that, to deliver for those who identify as Irish in NI - because SF are even more useless

Abortion, same sex marriage and now an Irish language act

Seems to me NI would be better off just going back to direct rule from Westminster, because the British Government stepping in is the only way NI is getting any positive change as it is
Yes because SF famously opposed all 3 of those things.... the obsession is unbelievable.
They chickened out on the abortion issue

And they got none of the three implemented, it took the Brits to do that

Surely indicates British rule would be better because it can actually, you know, do stuff

Also if the Sinn Fein supporters on this forum are anything to go by, a lot of them are conservative and anti-same sex marriage and abortion, so I doubt they're very happy with these things
Was the DUP’ers blocking all 3, not SF. Or are you too blinded by your anti-SF obsession to acknowledge that?

He willfully chooses to misunderstand how power sharing in Stormont works (or not in most cases) and it is the DUP who are either intransigent or break their promises.
I understand full well how it works

It doesn't work

And it certainly doesn't work with the parties involved


It is quite the irony to see the Brits come to the rescue, I thought SF supporters were very much against that kind of thing!
On this we can agree.

Would you say Westminster is relevant now?

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: June 17, 2021, 09:09:10 AM »
Donnie O'Sullivan (Kerry Man) who works with CNN spends his time interviewing conspiracy theorists and people who have been radicalised by Trump/Facebook/The Internet/etc. He is worth a follow.

A lot of it comes down to the fact that the world we live in is very complicated with nuances that are just not easily explained. And for people with a low intelligence or mental illness (even a mild one), these things are difficult to get their heads around. They seek solace in simplicity, it's all shady governments or big pharma or big tech. The world is pure chaos. Like a pandemic for fucks sake. It's just mental to think 18 months ago this was unimaginable. People struggle to understand and to explain it. They need a simple explanation and the reality is there isn't one. They then take an even more dangerous path into conspiracy theories.

If you find yourself in this spiral you need to stop. Reach out to someone and seek help.


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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: June 17, 2021, 08:34:34 AM »
Sinn Fein will get shafted by the Tories on this …can’t believe they are going to trust them on it and nominate a DFM
Will they? I’d say it’ll be similar to the abortion and gay marriage issue in that the Brits stepping in allows both sides to save face.

Do you trust the Tories to keep their word?

SF looking to the UK parliament, a parliament that they don't take their seats in and that they don't recognise its authority to pass Irish Language act is next level hypocrisy.

Anyway I am glad that Stormont hasn't fallen and everyone can get on with the important work of governing this place.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: June 16, 2021, 04:43:02 PM »
For those who are Covid Vaccine hesitant would Ivermectin not be a good alternative if authorised here?. It says in this article that it's been around since 1981 and reduces the risk of transmission by 88 per cent.

https://www.pharmacymagazine.co.uk/ivermectin-for-covid-19-a-cheap-drug-with-a-remarkable-effect

In this video it is claimed that if Ivermectin was used throughout the world then Covid would be gone within a month.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_NNTVJzqtY&t=2254s

Yes, but why have a cure, when they can keep it all going with annual vaccines, cripple the economy, destroy livelihoods  and control the population?

I said it months ago - this isn’t about a virus.

FFS have a read online about Ivermectin. It’s really that easy to get the full picture.

then why have there been experts calling for it to be used?

Because there are signs it can help in mild Covid cases. And perhaps it might be a very useful tool in fighting Covid. There’s certainly positive news around it. But there’s also a whole lot of mis-information. It’s not a wonder drug that cures Covid. It’s still not passed by the majority of health organisations as a treatment. So Building it up as a super cure doesn’t help.

Well of course it’s not! That won’t help sell vaccines, would it?  ::)

You do realize its much better for public health, and thus a return to normality, for people to be protected so they're most likely NOT to develop symptomatic disease in the first place, rather than rely on treatments, including drugs and up to intubation, afterwards?

There won’t be a return to normality. Even if covid is seen to be wiped out, they still won’t allow normality to return. Time will tell on how effective these vaccines are. But given that there’s talk of another wave in autumn, even with the vast majority of the population vaccinated, I’m guessing not that effective.

There is a chance that you are mentally unwell. Please seek help.

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