All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021

Started by TheGreatest, May 13, 2021, 11:54:54 AM

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TheGreatest

One All Ireland since 2009.
Keane's 3rd Year with only one Munster title to his name.
The humiliation of 2020 beaten by a non contender Cork Team.
The have the players and the panel
Legacy weight on their shoulders.

Nothing less that an All Ireland is failure, pressure is on.

No pressure on the Dubs, New management in Tyrone, they wont expect miracles straight way, no one will tip Mayo, etc.

Dreadnought

Quote from: TheGreatest on May 13, 2021, 11:54:54 AM
One All Ireland since 2009.
Keane's 3rd Year with only one Munster title to his name.
The humiliation of 2020 beaten by a non contender Cork Team.
The have the players and the panel
Legacy weight on their shoulders.

Nothing less that an All Ireland is failure, pressure is on.

No pressure on the Dubs, New management in Tyrone, they wont expect miracles straight way, no one will tip Mayo, etc.

Bit harsh, you're counting his 3rd year before he even starts it. He has 1 Munster title out of 2 played so far to be more accurate. They did rightly his first year, brought Dublin to a replay, and had their chances to win it. I think after a long winter after being caught on the hop in poor weather by Cork (it was smash and grab with the goal, lets be fair, despite how poor they played), and despite losing some personnel, they'll be in a better place this year and looking to challenge. I wouldn't say anything less than an AI when this Dublin team is around is failure, but they do need to have a good year.

An Fhairche Abu

If Kerry don't win this year, Keane will be out the door, harsh or not that's the way it is in Kerry, they are the most ruthless hoors/winners in the country.

imtommygunn


Blowitupref

Kerry aren't good enough defensively to win this year's All-Ireland and they got rid of a good coach that may brought the improvement needed in defence.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Farrandeelin

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 13, 2021, 05:30:29 PM
If Kerry don't win this year, Keane will be out the door, harsh or not that's the way it is in Kerry, they are the most ruthless hoors/winners in the country.

That's the truth for sure. I can't understand how he survived the winter given how it panned out for them last Autumn.
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seafoid

Kerry have been trying to defend the top spot in the roll of honour with no support from the GAA.
The Dubs will walk it again. It used to be a sport

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

TheGreatest

Quote from: seafoid on May 14, 2021, 03:23:48 PM
Kerry have been trying to defend the top spot in the roll of honour with no support from the GAA.
The Dubs will walk it again. It used to be a sport

Use to be or? Only 6 teams have won it in 20 years, And 3 of them teams only won it once.

Kerry group are not pub sponsor. . . 

Separate but linked to give hope to others, this year alone, PSG, Juventus , Celtics hold on their respective leagues has been broken . . .

From the Bunker

#8
Who cares? The interest is dying. Covid has helped disguise the demise of the football inter-county game.

True, Kerry are the only ones really worried about all this. Their great team of the 70/80's has been over shadowed by the Dubs of the 2010's and on.

Dublin are only 7 Titles behind Kerry in the number of titles. They were 14 behind just over a decade ago!

Captain Obvious

Quote from: TheGreatest on May 14, 2021, 03:44:16 PM
Separate but linked to give hope to others, this year alone, PSG, Juventus , Celtics hold on their respective leagues has been broken . . .

PSG for some daft reason got rid of Tuchel. Juventus likewise got rid of experienced manager only worse they replaced him with a rookie. Celtic not worth talking about.

Not really comparable with Dublin. Dessie Farrell has already landed the All Ireland a smooth transition from the departure of smirking Jim Gavin.   The only team under pressure is Dublin as its basically Dublins All Ireland to lose however I don't think they'll be put under much pressure as the challengers are either in transition and not good enough to challenge.

From the Bunker

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 14, 2021, 04:11:31 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on May 14, 2021, 03:44:16 PM
Separate but linked to give hope to others, this year alone, PSG, Juventus , Celtics hold on their respective leagues has been broken . . .

PSG for some daft reason got rid of Tuchel. Juventus likewise got rid of experienced manager only worse they replaced him with a rookie. Celtic not worth talking about.

Not really comparable with Dublin. Dessie Farrell has already landed the All Ireland a smooth transition from the departure of smirking Jim Gavin.   The only team under pressure is Dublin as its basically Dublins All Ireland to lose however I don't think they'll be put under much pressure as the challengers are either in transition and not good enough to challenge.

Dublin are also constantly in transition from being a great team to continuing to be a great team!

macker15

Quote from: From the Bunker on May 14, 2021, 04:19:38 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 14, 2021, 04:11:31 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on May 14, 2021, 03:44:16 PM
Separate but linked to give hope to others, this year alone, PSG, Juventus , Celtics hold on their respective leagues has been broken . . .

PSG for some daft reason got rid of Tuchel. Juventus likewise got rid of experienced manager only worse they replaced him with a rookie. Celtic not worth talking about.

Not really comparable with Dublin. Dessie Farrell has already landed the All Ireland a smooth transition from the departure of smirking Jim Gavin.   The only team under pressure is Dublin as its basically Dublins All Ireland to lose however I don't think they'll be put under much pressure as the challengers are either in transition and not good enough to challenge.

Dublin are also constantly in transition from being a great team to continuing to be a great team!

This thread will get your juices flowing.  I suppose we'll have this for the next few months ago  😉😉

Lar Naparka

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 14, 2021, 04:11:31 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on May 14, 2021, 03:44:16 PM
Separate but linked to give hope to others, this year alone, PSG, Juventus , Celtics hold on their respective leagues has been broken . . .

PSG for some daft reason got rid of Tuchel. Juventus likewise got rid of experienced manager only worse they replaced him with a rookie. Celtic not worth talking about.

Not really comparable with Dublin. Dessie Farrell has already landed the All Ireland a smooth transition from the departure of smirking Jim Gavin.   The only team under pressure is Dublin as its basically Dublins All Ireland to lose however I don't think they'll be put under much pressure as the challengers are either in transition and not good enough to challenge.
That's the long and the short of it; it is very definitely Dublin's to lose and will be for the foreseeable future. They just might be caught on the hop occasionally as happened with Donegal in 2014 and Mayo and Kerry brought them to replays but there was no doubt in each replay that Dublin were the better side and there was no doubting the result from an early stage.
Kerry's days of dominance are over and while I could see them snatching an odd win, it will be a case of Dublin losing rather than Kerry (or anybody else) winning in any given year.
Tradition doesn't count for much in the modern game. Money counts more than anything else and Mayo, Tyrone and maybe three or four other counties can hire the best coaching personnel and provide the best training facilities than can be had. None of them will fear Kerry. Dublin is another matter but the days when other teams were intimidated by the sight of a Kerry jersey have gone forever.


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larryin89

They have clifford and sean o se who are capable of beating the Dublin defence , no other county have forwards next to near that type of talent and that's why they could come close . Dublin v kerry final is odds on imo . Should be a cracker too. Just a shame it will be a near enough empty croke park again . It's a nothing occasion tbh without a packed croke park,  hard to get excited about it in that sense .
Walk-in down mchale rd , sun out, summers day , game day . That's all .

seafoid

Quote from: TheGreatest on May 14, 2021, 03:44:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 14, 2021, 03:23:48 PM
Kerry have been trying to defend the top spot in the roll of honour with no support from the GAA.
The Dubs will walk it again. It used to be a sport

Use to be or? Only 6 teams have won it in 20 years, And 3 of them teams only won it once.

Kerry group are not pub sponsor. . . 

Separate but linked to give hope to others, this year alone, PSG, Juventus , Celtics hold on their respective leagues has been broken . . .
Going back to 1884 the Dubs and Kerry won about half of all Sams with the rest available to the other counties. Sam used to travel around the country.


https://youtu.be/Jwv2B4W9brk

Now the Dubs win 100% of available Sams.

It's far worse than the European Super League. As Phil Neville would say "in this country".

It's worse than the Glazers. It's the blazers.


"No matter how well written or delivered, a speech cannot divert whole societies from a well established course of action. "Policies in motion tend to stay in motion ; to change the trajectory of a deeply embedded set of initiatives requires the application of political forces of equal motion " Steve Walt

I think the rest of the counties should pull out of the All Ireland. Many players are already deciding not to bother on an individual basis anyway.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU