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Re: All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021
« Reply #90 on: June 04, 2021, 05:40:40 PM »
Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League or Championship since 2012. The Mayo/Dublin rivalry was a myth. It was a procession of Dublin dominance.  ;)
Most people don't pay attention. Because recent finals were reasonably close they think the game is fine.
Because Mayo had a very good team from 2015 on  it looked as though the processes were solid.
But once that team ran out of time there wasn't going to be a replacement anywhere. There can't be because the
normal progression from the pack to Sam doesn't work any more. Counties would get to a semi, then lose a final and
have a good chance of winning the year after. Time and experience. Not any more.

Tyrone got to the final in 2018 but were hammered. They didn't make any progress.
Kerry didn't even get out of Munster last year
Meath have been building a team for a while and lost the Leinster final by 22 points.
The psychology of the competing teams is a huge issue. Dublin is a juggernaut that destroys everything in its path.

The RTE analysts with the exception of Spillane looked into the void last November,.
Whelan
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1330254398535176204


Orourke

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1340326486474186753

Panel

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335305360815632385

Gooch

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335712179580973063

Tyrone lost final by 6. Is 6 points considering a hammering now??
Hammering no but it was Dublins biggest winning margin in All Ireland final since the late 70s.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

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Re: All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021
« Reply #92 on: June 04, 2021, 06:55:03 PM »
Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League or Championship since 2012. The Mayo/Dublin rivalry was a myth. It was a procession of Dublin dominance.  ;)
Most people don't pay attention. Because recent finals were reasonably close they think the game is fine.
Because Mayo had a very good team from 2015 on  it looked as though the processes were solid.
But once that team ran out of time there wasn't going to be a replacement anywhere. There can't be because the
normal progression from the pack to Sam doesn't work any more. Counties would get to a semi, then lose a final and
have a good chance of winning the year after. Time and experience. Not any more.

Tyrone got to the final in 2018 but were hammered. They didn't make any progress.
Kerry didn't even get out of Munster last year
Meath have been building a team for a while and lost the Leinster final by 22 points.
The psychology of the competing teams is a huge issue. Dublin is a juggernaut that destroys everything in its path.

The RTE analysts with the exception of Spillane looked into the void last November,.
Whelan
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1330254398535176204


Orourke

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1340326486474186753

Panel

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335305360815632385

Gooch

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335712179580973063

Tyrone lost final by 6. Is 6 points considering a hammering now??
Hammering no but it was Dublins biggest winning margin in All Ireland final since the late 70s.
The dubs have never put a team away like great Kerry teams of 70s and noughties

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Re: All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021
« Reply #93 on: June 04, 2021, 08:08:22 PM »
they put teams away routinely. They just haven't happened to blitz the scoreboard in a final. A game like that may have had 6 points in it but it was more than a six point game really.

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Re: All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021
« Reply #94 on: June 04, 2021, 08:40:36 PM »
Are you saying they were sitting in 4th gear?

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Re: All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021
« Reply #95 on: June 04, 2021, 09:21:44 PM »
He's saying that Dublin kept Tyrone at arms length.

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Re: All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021
« Reply #96 on: June 04, 2021, 09:55:31 PM »
They build up a lead then play keep ball. Finals are different too. Once you get in a winning position itís just about holding onto it.

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Re: All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021
« Reply #97 on: June 05, 2021, 02:12:40 PM »
They hammered Tyrone psychologically. That Tyrone team was broken. Tyrone are 20/1 this year.

It's a completely different ball game now.

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Re: All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021
« Reply #98 on: June 06, 2021, 01:36:02 AM »
The 'Everybody wants to play Dublin and beat Dublin in Croke Park' has got a bit lame the last couple of years. The Kerry pundits don't use it anymore. They now realise that 1978 is not going to happen any day soon. It's a classic line and adds to Dublin maintaining home advantage. Anyone who says otherwise is painted as unappreciative of Gaelic Games tradition. You could not make this stuff up!


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Re: All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021
« Reply #99 on: June 13, 2021, 07:53:49 PM »
They hammered Tyrone psychologically. That Tyrone team was broken. Tyrone are 20/1 this year.

It's a completely different ball game now.

I think the Kerry men will have put permanent scar on Tyrone boys too. Wont be beating Kerry for another while.

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Re: All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021
« Reply #100 on: June 15, 2021, 09:07:30 PM »
The 'Everybody wants to play Dublin and beat Dublin in Croke Park' has got a bit lame the last couple of years. The Kerry pundits don't use it anymore. They now realise that 1978 is not going to happen any day soon. It's a classic line and adds to Dublin maintaining home advantage. Anyone who says otherwise is painted as unappreciative of Gaelic Games tradition. You could not make this stuff up!

Yes I agree with a lot of the posters on here. Kerrt are the best footballing side in the country and there was a few years in the past . Few years that Dublin won we were better footballers than but Dublin won the big prize. I think Kerry have improved their squad considerably this year with someone our bench being as good as the starters that is what has won Dublin there 6 in a row. Money bought fitness and money bought back room teams of expecters yes I know it is boring to bring up again but they will forever be flawed champions.. They never had a maurice. Fitz. They never had a Gooch. They never had a David Clifford. The skills these guys have and had cannot be bought or thought. It is some thing that comes naturally.. As always my heart says kerry. But the robots may win again

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Re: All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021
« Reply #101 on: June 15, 2021, 09:09:33 PM »
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/why-kerry-have-a-real-chance-of-knocking-the-dubs-off-their-perch-and-winning-the-all-ireland-this-year-40487762.html

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Perfect example of a pundit trying to hype up a non competitive championship. It's in the media's interest to sell the product, the more that debate is triggered the more that media can generate interest.

In a once off match anything can happen and Kerry could beat Dublin once in five games maybe. On the other hand they might not make the AI final as they are also capable of losing to some other contenders (as we seen with Cork last year). Kerry had a golden opportunity to beat the Dubs in the 2019 final after the Dubs were reduced to 14 men for the last 45 minutes but Kerry failed to see the match out and the inevitable result followed in the replay.

The title thread suggests that all the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an AI title this year. I don't see that at all though as I don't know of many people who expect them to actually win it, perhaps some within their own county do. There may be a general expectancy that they are capable of making the final but even that is dubious. There are still too many question marks for me. I do think that Keane needs to get them to an AI final this year though to stay in the post.   

They're very robotic in everything they do , when you see lads like Jack mac and Mannion walking away from a winning team at 26/27 years old, Jack mac saying he got depressed when he heard there was no extra time in the 2019 final and that the thought of having to do 2 more weeks made him sick says it all really, I doubt there are any young lads in dublin or anywhere else in the country trying to replicate the dublin players sprinting around the place hand passing the ball and trying to bore the other young lads to death.

Funny thing while I was watching our game v Tyrone on Saturday and King David missed a punched goal I turned to my son and angrily said Gooch wouldn't have missed that, that'll tell you how spoilt we are in the kingdom.

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Re: All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021
« Reply #102 on: June 15, 2021, 09:20:22 PM »
Kerry are Kerry - they will always be around and I don't think the pressure will bother them one bit.

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Re: All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021
« Reply #103 on: June 15, 2021, 11:00:21 PM »
Kerry are Kerry - they will always be around and I don't think the pressure will bother them one bit.

The pressure got to them last year!

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Re: All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021
« Reply #104 on: June 15, 2021, 11:29:17 PM »
Kerry are Kerry - they will always be around and I don't think the pressure will bother them one bit.

Make no mistake about it Kerry and Peter Keane are under serious pressure to beat Dublin this year. Keane must know after last year's disaster if they don't win the All Ireland this year he'll be replaced.

Dublin are also breaking records set by Kerry teams/players years ago that the locals thought would never happen and all of a sudden Dublin are getting close to Kerry's number of All Ireland victories which is only adding to the pressure