All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021

[Captain Obvious]

Tell me the self inflicted errors from 2016?

To name but a few. The choice to play Kevin McLoughlin as a sweeper who ended up scoring an OG. Aidan O Shea wasted at full forward for half of the game when he was needed in the middle 8 to help out. Confusion over who was meant to be marking Paddy Andrews when introduced. After that game the bizarre decision to change the goalkeeper and his replacement gifted a goal to Dublin in the replay.

[From the Bunker]

Tell me the self inflicted errors from 2016?

To name but a few. The choice to play Kevin McLoughlin as a sweeper who ended up scoring an OG. Aidan O Shea wasted at full forward for half of the game when he was needed in the middle 8 to help out. Confusion over who was meant to be marking Paddy Andrews when introduced. After that game the bizarre decision to change the goalkeeper and his replacement gifted a goal to Dublin in the replay.

Alright, you are blaming the sideline - I thought you were blaming individual errors from players on the pitch. Lets just face it - Mayo were good but just not good enough. Simple as! I mean Mayo lost to an average Galway team early on (who later lost in the quarterfinals to Tipperary), what was going on there?

[seafoid]

Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League or Championship since 2012. The Mayo/Dublin rivalry was a myth. It was a procession of Dublin dominance. 

Most people don't pay attention. Because recent finals were reasonably close they think the game is fine.
Because Mayo had a very good team from 2015 on  it looked as though the processes were solid.
But once that team ran out of time there wasn't going to be a replacement anywhere. There can't be because the
normal progression from the pack to Sam doesn't work any more. Counties would get to a semi, then lose a final and
have a good chance of winning the year after. Time and experience. Not any more.

Tyrone got to the final in 2018 but were hammered. They didn't make any progress.
Kerry didn't even get out of Munster last year
Meath have been building a team for a while and lost the Leinster final by 22 points.
The psychology of the competing teams is a huge issue. Dublin is a juggernaut that destroys everything in its path.

The RTE analysts with the exception of Spillane looked into the void last November,.
Whelan
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Orourke

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Panel

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Gooch

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[yellowcard]

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/why-kerry-have-a-real-chance-of-knocking-the-dubs-off-their-perch-and-winning-the-all-ireland-this-year-40487762.html

Perfect example of a pundit trying to hype up a non competitive championship. It's in the media's interest to sell the product, the more that debate is triggered the more that media can generate interest.

In a once off match anything can happen and Kerry could beat Dublin once in five games maybe. On the other hand they might not make the AI final as they are also capable of losing to some other contenders (as we seen with Cork last year). Kerry had a golden opportunity to beat the Dubs in the 2019 final after the Dubs were reduced to 14 men for the last 45 minutes but Kerry failed to see the match out and the inevitable result followed in the replay.

The title thread suggests that all the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an AI title this year. I don't see that at all though as I don't know of many people who expect them to actually win it, perhaps some within their own county do. There may be a general expectancy that they are capable of making the final but even that is dubious. There are still too many question marks for me. I do think that Keane needs to get them to an AI final this year though to stay in the post.   

[From the Bunker]

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/why-kerry-have-a-real-chance-of-knocking-the-dubs-off-their-perch-and-winning-the-all-ireland-this-year-40487762.html

Perfect example of a pundit trying to hype up a non competitive championship. It's in the media's interest to sell the product, the more that debate is triggered the more that media can generate interest.

In a once off match anything can happen and Kerry could beat Dublin once in five games maybe. On the other hand they might not make the AI final as they are also capable of losing to some other contenders (as we seen with Cork last year). Kerry had a golden opportunity to beat the Dubs in the 2019 final after the Dubs were reduced to 14 men for the last 45 minutes but Kerry failed to see the match out and the inevitable result followed in the replay.

The title thread suggests that all the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an AI title this year. I don't see that at all though as I don't know of many people who expect them to actually win it, perhaps some within their own county do. There may be a general expectancy that they are capable of making the final but even that is dubious. There are still too many question marks for me. I do think that Keane needs to get them to an AI final this year though to stay in the post.   

Kerry until this last decade were the Top cats of Gaelic football. But gradually over the last decade their records are being superseded by Dublin. The Pressure is on Kerry's vanity to stop this. Nobody was within an arses roar of their over all titles a decade ago. Dublin are a real threat to their throne.

[Ronnie]

I HAVE been involved in sports punditry for over 30 years.

By its nature, it's subjective; everybody has an opinion. Mine are evidence-based, whereas others pluck their sound bites from thin air

Hilarious. It's the way he tells them 

Frank Carson

[macker15]

Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League or Championship since 2012. The Mayo/Dublin rivalry was a myth. It was a procession of Dublin dominance. 

Most people don't pay attention. Because recent finals were reasonably close they think the game is fine.
Because Mayo had a very good team from 2015 on  it looked as though the processes were solid.
But once that team ran out of time there wasn't going to be a replacement anywhere. There can't be because the
normal progression from the pack to Sam doesn't work any more. Counties would get to a semi, then lose a final and
have a good chance of winning the year after. Time and experience. Not any more.

Tyrone got to the final in 2018 but were hammered. They didn't make any progress.
Kerry didn't even get out of Munster last year
Meath have been building a team for a while and lost the Leinster final by 22 points.
The psychology of the competing teams is a huge issue. Dublin is a juggernaut that destroys everything in its path.

The RTE analysts with the exception of Spillane looked into the void last November,.
Whelan
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1330254398535176204


Orourke

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1340326486474186753

Panel

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335305360815632385

Gooch

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335712179580973063

Tyrone lost final by 6. Is 6 points considering a hammering now??

[macker15]

https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/tomas-o-se-hopes-kerry-can-find-greater-consistency/

A bit of yerra from Tommy

[seafoid]

Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League or Championship since 2012. The Mayo/Dublin rivalry was a myth. It was a procession of Dublin dominance. 

Most people don't pay attention. Because recent finals were reasonably close they think the game is fine.
Because Mayo had a very good team from 2015 on  it looked as though the processes were solid.
But once that team ran out of time there wasn't going to be a replacement anywhere. There can't be because the
normal progression from the pack to Sam doesn't work any more. Counties would get to a semi, then lose a final and
have a good chance of winning the year after. Time and experience. Not any more.

Tyrone got to the final in 2018 but were hammered. They didn't make any progress.
Kerry didn't even get out of Munster last year
Meath have been building a team for a while and lost the Leinster final by 22 points.
The psychology of the competing teams is a huge issue. Dublin is a juggernaut that destroys everything in its path.

The RTE analysts with the exception of Spillane looked into the void last November,.
Whelan
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1330254398535176204


Orourke

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1340326486474186753

Panel

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335305360815632385

Gooch

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335712179580973063

Tyrone lost final by 6. Is 6 points considering a hammering now??

Psychologically it was. Normally a Tyrone team would be back the next year to build on the lost final with the experience gained.
But that didn't happen, did it?
And Tyrone are a strong county.

This is not a Tyrone thing. It happens to ali the other top counties with the exception of 1.

[Rossfan]

Tyrone were so well behind around 50 minutes that for the first time ever I switched off the AI Final. A number of people I know did the same.

[J70]

Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League or Championship since 2012. The Mayo/Dublin rivalry was a myth. It was a procession of Dublin dominance. 

Most people don't pay attention. Because recent finals were reasonably close they think the game is fine.
Because Mayo had a very good team from 2015 on  it looked as though the processes were solid.
But once that team ran out of time there wasn't going to be a replacement anywhere. There can't be because the
normal progression from the pack to Sam doesn't work any more. Counties would get to a semi, then lose a final and
have a good chance of winning the year after. Time and experience. Not any more.

Tyrone got to the final in 2018 but were hammered. They didn't make any progress.
Kerry didn't even get out of Munster last year
Meath have been building a team for a while and lost the Leinster final by 22 points.
The psychology of the competing teams is a huge issue. Dublin is a juggernaut that destroys everything in its path.

The RTE analysts with the exception of Spillane looked into the void last November,.
Whelan
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1330254398535176204


Orourke

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1340326486474186753

Panel

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335305360815632385

Gooch

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335712179580973063

Tyrone lost final by 6. Is 6 points considering a hammering now??

When its six points that could have been ten had they been bothered, as most Dublin games tend to be.

[macker15]

Tyrone were so well behind around 50 minutes that for the first time ever I switched off the AI Final. A number of people I know did the same.

Off course you did 🙄🙄

[macker15]

Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League or Championship since 2012. The Mayo/Dublin rivalry was a myth. It was a procession of Dublin dominance. 

Most people don't pay attention. Because recent finals were reasonably close they think the game is fine.
Because Mayo had a very good team from 2015 on  it looked as though the processes were solid.
But once that team ran out of time there wasn't going to be a replacement anywhere. There can't be because the
normal progression from the pack to Sam doesn't work any more. Counties would get to a semi, then lose a final and
have a good chance of winning the year after. Time and experience. Not any more.

Tyrone got to the final in 2018 but were hammered. They didn't make any progress.
Kerry didn't even get out of Munster last year
Meath have been building a team for a while and lost the Leinster final by 22 points.
The psychology of the competing teams is a huge issue. Dublin is a juggernaut that destroys everything in its path.

The RTE analysts with the exception of Spillane looked into the void last November,.
Whelan
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1330254398535176204


Orourke

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1340326486474186753

Panel

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335305360815632385

Gooch

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335712179580973063

Tyrone lost final by 6. Is 6 points considering a hammering now??

When its six points that could have been ten had they been bothered, as most Dublin games tend to be.

Tyrone hit 6/7 with kicking outside of boot. They same against Kerry the following year. Bit more composure of front of post and could have won.

[Rossfan]

  🤣🤣

[Armagh18]

Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League or Championship since 2012. The Mayo/Dublin rivalry was a myth. It was a procession of Dublin dominance. 

Most people don't pay attention. Because recent finals were reasonably close they think the game is fine.
Because Mayo had a very good team from 2015 on  it looked as though the processes were solid.
But once that team ran out of time there wasn't going to be a replacement anywhere. There can't be because the
normal progression from the pack to Sam doesn't work any more. Counties would get to a semi, then lose a final and
have a good chance of winning the year after. Time and experience. Not any more.

Tyrone got to the final in 2018 but were hammered. They didn't make any progress.
Kerry didn't even get out of Munster last year
Meath have been building a team for a while and lost the Leinster final by 22 points.
The psychology of the competing teams is a huge issue. Dublin is a juggernaut that destroys everything in its path.

The RTE analysts with the exception of Spillane looked into the void last November,.
Whelan
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1330254398535176204


Orourke

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1340326486474186753

Panel

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335305360815632385

Gooch

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335712179580973063

Tyrone lost final by 6. Is 6 points considering a hammering now??

It may as well have been 66