Congress

Started by Baile Brigín 2, March 01, 2021, 02:47:55 AM

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Eamonnca1

Quote from: sid waddell on March 01, 2021, 11:42:58 AM
QuoteMotion 24: This motion proposes to extend the scope of the rule dealing with abuse of a racist, sectarian, or anti-inclusion nature against an opponent to also include such abuse against a match official.

Unsurprisingly passed by acclaim
Guess this means any derogatory reference to "free staters" will now carry a stern sanction

Great stuff - so as well as racist and sectarian bigotry not being tolerated, anti-Irish bigotry by people from Northern Ireland will not be tolerated

QuoteMotion 26: Propose to make it a foul to distract someone by waving hurl/arms while they are taking a puck-out/kick-out or sideline puck/kick.

Passed by acclaim
Good God

Imagine passing this motion for puckouts and sidelines but then bizarrely not for frees

Who the f**k comes up with this nonsense

If someone takes a free and puts it wide after someone's been distracting him, he can take it again.

delgany

Quote from: sid waddell on March 01, 2021, 11:42:58 AM
QuoteMotion 24: This motion proposes to extend the scope of the rule dealing with abuse of a racist, sectarian, or anti-inclusion nature against an opponent to also include such abuse against a match official.

Unsurprisingly passed by acclaim
Guess this means any derogatory reference to "free staters" will now carry a stern sanction

Great stuff - so as well as racist and sectarian bigotry not being tolerated, anti-Irish bigotry by people from Northern Ireland will not be tolerated

QuoteMotion 26: Propose to make it a foul to distract someone by waving hurl/arms while they are taking a puck-out/kick-out or sideline puck/kick.

Passed by acclaim
Good God

Imagine passing this motion for puckouts and sidelines but then bizarrely not for frees

Who the f**k comes up with this nonsense

I think , the frees were already in the rules

johnnycool

Quote from: delgany on March 16, 2021, 07:58:40 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on March 01, 2021, 11:42:58 AM
QuoteMotion 24: This motion proposes to extend the scope of the rule dealing with abuse of a racist, sectarian, or anti-inclusion nature against an opponent to also include such abuse against a match official.

Unsurprisingly passed by acclaim
Guess this means any derogatory reference to "free staters" will now carry a stern sanction

Great stuff - so as well as racist and sectarian bigotry not being tolerated, anti-Irish bigotry by people from Northern Ireland will not be tolerated

QuoteMotion 26: Propose to make it a foul to distract someone by waving hurl/arms while they are taking a puck-out/kick-out or sideline puck/kick.

Passed by acclaim
Good God

Imagine passing this motion for puckouts and sidelines but then bizarrely not for frees

Who the f**k comes up with this nonsense

I think , the frees were already in the rules

You can still stand with your arms/hurl in the air, just can't move them.

TBH I never knew this was an issue, but there you go.

rodney trotter

GPA backing League based Championship https://t.co/u7hLXpVauX?amp=1

Special Congress on October 23rd.

Eire90

i originally thought it was a terrible format but thinking futher it might be ok i am in two minds on it its not very casual friendly tho but i suppose casuals do not really look into tournament formats.

Eire90

would the 2nd team in division 2  play the division 4 winner and 3rd division 2 play division 3 winner in this format

Farrandeelin

Will there still be 8 teams in each division. Haven't given this much time nor thought given the disappointment of over 3 weeks ago.
Inaugural Football Championship Prediction Winner.

BennyCake

So with this option B, after the national league decides positions, it's an AI championship involving 8 teams? So QF, SF and F. 3 games to win an All Ireland??

Blowitupref

Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 03, 2021, 08:40:42 AM
Will there still be 8 teams in each division. Haven't given this much time nor thought given the disappointment of over 3 weeks ago.

It will be 8 game Division.

Using this format for how things finished 2020, the top 5 in Div 1 was Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone, Galway, Donegal and Div 2 winners Roscommon all 6 would go into the quarter finals

2nd, 3rd in Div 2 was Kildare, Armagh and Div 3,4 winners Cork, Limerick would play off for the final two quarter spots.

The likes of Monaghan, Mayo, Meath out before the championship knock out stages but according to some journalists this format has no flaws and a no brainer to vote in.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

RedHand88

Having Limerick and no Mayo or Monaghan is a bit.... odd.

thewobbler

Quote from: Blowitupref on October 03, 2021, 01:43:22 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 03, 2021, 08:40:42 AM
Will there still be 8 teams in each division. Haven't given this much time nor thought given the disappointment of over 3 weeks ago.

It will be 8 game Division.

Using this format for how things finished 2020, the top 5 in Div 1 was Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone, Galway, Donegal and Div 2 winners Roscommon all 6 would go into the quarter finals

2nd, 3rd in Div 2 was Kildare, Armagh and Div 3,4 winners Cork, Limerick would play off for the final two quarter spots.

The likes of Monaghan, Mayo, Meath out before the championship knock out stages but according to some journalists this format has no flaws and a no brainer to vote in.

Somewhere along the line it'll hopefully dawn on you that in such a situation, their championship season consisted of 7 games, which should be plenty enough to gauge whether they're genuine contenders or not.

American football has probably the fairest, most egalitarian way of deciding their champions. They have to have the consistency, depth and resolve to maintain focus during a league campaign. And those that apply themselves more seriously in the league get more favourable opening to the playoffs. Then to win the thing, they have to have the spark, determination, energy, skill and luck needed to see off at least 3 of the best 4 teams in a month. Everything is put to the test over the season, and at the end of it, it's a rare, rare thing to think of the champions as anything other than the best team in the competition.

We are going the same way. The sport will thrive on this.

Blowitupref

Quote from: thewobbler on October 03, 2021, 03:19:05 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 03, 2021, 01:43:22 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 03, 2021, 08:40:42 AM
Will there still be 8 teams in each division. Haven't given this much time nor thought given the disappointment of over 3 weeks ago.

It will be 8 game Division.

Using this format for how things finished 2020, the top 5 in Div 1 was Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone, Galway, Donegal and Div 2 winners Roscommon all 6 would go into the quarter finals

2nd, 3rd in Div 2 was Kildare, Armagh and Div 3,4 winners Cork, Limerick would play off for the final two quarter spots.

The likes of Monaghan, Mayo, Meath out before the championship knock out stages but according to some journalists this format has no flaws and a no brainer to vote in.

Somewhere along the line it'll hopefully dawn on you that in such a situation, their championship season consisted of 7 games, which should be plenty enough to gauge whether they're genuine contenders or not.

American football has probably the fairest, most egalitarian way of deciding their champions. They have to have the consistency, depth and resolve to maintain focus during a league campaign. And those that apply themselves more seriously in the league get more favourable opening to the playoffs. Then to win the thing, they have to have the spark, determination, energy, skill and luck needed to see off at least 3 of the best 4 teams in a month. Everything is put to the test over the season, and at the end of it, it's a rare, rare thing to think of the champions as anything other than the best team in the competition.

We are going the same way. The sport will thrive on this.

The 2020 format had 7 NFL games which was a decent preparation for the championship for managers to try out new players and systems of play and for a lot of Div 3,4 teams the league was their most important competition as they looked to build up the already tiered system in place.

Mayo, Meath, Monaghan eliminated because they played in stronger division while their spots taken by possibly Div 3,winners is far from fairest system for the last 8 of the championship.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

thewobbler

I know you're struggling with this. But if proposal B goes though, then the National League won't be a warm up competition. It'll be the championship. What it was before will never matter again.

——

If you think this is a bad thing.....

What other elite grade sport has a season in which over 65% of their games are a warm up competition?

None.

Reason?

It's a daft and pointless concept to develop top level sport and then treat it like a nursery.

Utterly f**king daft.

Blowitupref

Quote from: thewobbler on October 03, 2021, 04:11:32 PM
I know you're struggling with this. But if proposal B goes though, then the National League won't be a warm up competition. It'll be the championship. What it was before will never matter again.

——

If you think this is a bad thing.....

What other elite grade sport has a season in which over 65% of their games are a warm up competition?

None.

Reason?

It's a daft and pointless concept to develop top level sport and then treat it like a nursery.

Utterly f**king daft.
Far from struggling with it, pointing out its not a flawless format as some journalists are trying to convince us. And I haven't even mentioned the total dead rubbers that this B Proposal will bring at least the dead rubbers in the 2020 league format was used by some as preparation for the championship.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Captain Obvious

Quote from: thewobbler on October 03, 2021, 03:19:05 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 03, 2021, 01:43:22 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 03, 2021, 08:40:42 AM
Will there still be 8 teams in each division. Haven't given this much time nor thought given the disappointment of over 3 weeks ago.

It will be 8 game Division.

Using this format for how things finished 2020, the top 5 in Div 1 was Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone, Galway, Donegal and Div 2 winners Roscommon all 6 would go into the quarter finals

2nd, 3rd in Div 2 was Kildare, Armagh and Div 3,4 winners Cork, Limerick would play off for the final two quarter spots.

The likes of Monaghan, Mayo, Meath out before the championship knock out stages but according to some journalists this format has no flaws and a no brainer to vote in.

Somewhere along the line it'll hopefully dawn on you that in such a situation, their championship season consisted of 7 games, which should be plenty enough to gauge whether they're genuine contenders or not.

American football has probably the fairest, most egalitarian way of deciding their champions. They have to have the consistency, depth and resolve to maintain focus during a league campaign. And those that apply themselves more seriously in the league get more favourable opening to the playoffs. Then to win the thing, they have to have the spark, determination, energy, skill and luck needed to see off at least 3 of the best 4 teams in a month. Everything is put to the test over the season, and at the end of it, it's a rare, rare thing to think of the champions as anything other than the best team in the competition.

We are going the same way. The sport will thrive on this.
Going the same way of a franchise sport?  While GAA HQ are at it should they allow county teams to be bought out by billionaires and those wealthy owners pick up Sam Maguire instead of the captains. The player drafts should bring a great interest..