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#1
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 27, 2015, 10:06:11 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 27, 2015, 01:58:42 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 27, 2015, 01:11:55 PM
But didn't Cushendall only score 1.12 or something in that game though?  That was a month ago and in that time Loughiel have blew better teams away including Ballycran.
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Missing quite a few forwards of note.
That makes Cushendall favourites then to win the championship!
It was said at the time of the match as they were missing so many.
#2
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 25, 2015, 01:18:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2015, 08:01:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 03:35:36 PM
Quote from: wino on August 24, 2015, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2015, 01:18:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 24, 2015, 11:07:46 AM
It was probably the most negative game I have ever seen, it wasn't a great spectacle

http://www.the42.ie/jj-doyle-wexford-antrim-2-2288646-Aug2015/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Not much to disagree with. Damage limitations maybe saves reputations but makes for poor fare.

Dont think KR had much choice other than to go ultra defensive.

It's not pretty but in some cases it's all you've got, losing by 30 points and playing the open 15 on 15 won't win you any admirers.... It gives the southerners the usual sound bite, "aye the have it hard up there and keep it going" fecking crap....

Knowing your strengths and weaknesses, that's what happened at the weekend, left with no option but to take defeat but at least be competitive, 5 points down in first half was a good showing he's only gurning cause he didn't know how to beat that system...

We are playing Loughgiel on Sunday, if I were manager (again) I'd be playing a sweeper system, 4 half backs, but would still need two quality forwards with pace to win wide balls that would hopefully be placed by the spare man... now you can't always win these games but if you stay close enough and tag on frees and nick a goal then anything can happen, am I defensive? yes but only against certain teams, horses for courses

MR2, that's a real defensive solution. If you turn up on sunday you'll definitely be beaten!

Did you see the result this year against yas? 8-26 or something!!! Now I'm not the sharpest tool in the box but ffs!!!  ;D
Aye. Yas had a gather up that evening mr2. No mcgourtys or Stewart playing. Yous will get the respect you deserve.
Mr2 the defensive solution I was talking about is the match is on Saturday not sunday'
#3
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 24, 2015, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2015, 01:18:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 24, 2015, 11:07:46 AM
It was probably the most negative game I have ever seen, it wasn't a great spectacle

http://www.the42.ie/jj-doyle-wexford-antrim-2-2288646-Aug2015/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Not much to disagree with. Damage limitations maybe saves reputations but makes for poor fare.

Dont think KR had much choice other than to go ultra defensive.

It's not pretty but in some cases it's all you've got, losing by 30 points and playing the open 15 on 15 won't win you any admirers.... It gives the southerners the usual sound bite, "aye the have it hard up there and keep it going" fecking crap....

Knowing your strengths and weaknesses, that's what happened at the weekend, left with no option but to take defeat but at least be competitive, 5 points down in first half was a good showing he's only gurning cause he didn't know how to beat that system...

We are playing Loughgiel on Sunday, if I were manager (again) I'd be playing a sweeper system, 4 half backs, but would still need two quality forwards with pace to win wide balls that would hopefully be placed by the spare man... now you can't always win these games but if you stay close enough and tag on frees and nick a goal then anything can happen, am I defensive? yes but only against certain teams, horses for courses

MR2, that's a real defensive solution. If you turn up on sunday you'll definitely be beaten!
#4
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 04, 2015, 09:59:38 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 04, 2015, 09:44:59 PM
Loughiel looked really sharp tonight. Ballycastle are too big and too slow. Can't believe a club with their resources have constantly failed to deliver and will do so again this year. Could some of the Town boys on here offer their opinion? Why is it that such a big club that focus on one code (I know they've a senior football team) can't produce a winning side?

Any teams
#5
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 03, 2015, 09:56:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2015, 09:46:32 PM
Quote from: wino on August 03, 2015, 09:44:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 03, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
Pj??
He'd bring the right structures to it ok, but a lot would depend who who'd go with him and who his back room team would be. Some of the big names currently involved may struggle with him therefore his backroom team would be crucial to its success
I'd say PJ will see out what he's doing with loughgiel this championship.

Yeah, your right he will, but I wouldn't totally rule it out for the future
#6
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 03, 2015, 09:44:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 03, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
Pj??
He'd bring the right structures to it ok, but a lot would depend who who'd go with him and who his back room team would be. Some of the big names currently involved may struggle with him therefore his backroom team would be crucial to its success
#7
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 03, 2015, 09:38:18 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on August 03, 2015, 09:21:30 PM
So Kevin Ryan has stepped down. Who now for the antrim job

Is this true enough?
If so, about time, I'd say it was step down before being pushed out.
Johnsons not the worst idea, yes a bit ott but has proved some tatical know how at times and doesn't have a lot of the baggage that some north antrim personalities have.
And definitely won't let the tail wag the dog - sure what have we got to lose, it couldn't get any worse!
#8
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
July 30, 2015, 11:17:21 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 30, 2015, 10:59:59 PM
Owen Elliott is sore on us. He doesn't even try to hide it.

Catch yourself on, or maybe you're going back to the 'penalty'
He favoured you for years. To me he's one of the better in the county. Maybe not everyone's favourite but he tries to ref it so that hurling is the winner
Still dall odds are shortening now!
#9
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
July 30, 2015, 10:14:57 PM

Loughgiel dd ding tony mc closkey tc james campbell scully johnny campbell duck barney odhran mc Fadden skinner eddie mc closkey dan mc closkey Joey scullion shay casey

Sure look at the lads you've to bring into an already strong team, some great players to come back.
County antrim post, yeah right they'd be better sticking to the Saturday morning leagues

Owen elliott done ok tonight, tried to let it go. Yes you'd question a decision or two each way but in fairness he lets it flow as much as possible

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#10
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
July 30, 2015, 09:51:49 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 30, 2015, 09:23:45 PM
Full time score Cushendall 1-12 Loughgiel 1-15.
Cushendall must be favourites now, missing so many big stars and nearly beating Loughgiel.
The current county champions must start as favourites when all these lads come back.
#11
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
July 27, 2015, 10:13:09 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on July 27, 2015, 09:38:53 PM
Quote from: wino on July 27, 2015, 09:30:20 PM
hard luck to the minors some good work being done, unlucky with injuries but a fair effort. under 21's - cant see it happening here, we beat 2 very average teams with little or no preparation and whilst we have some great hurlers, you get out what you put in and there is no leadership from management and CB, just ticking another box. To be honest 3 weeks before the 1st u21 game KR wasn't aware of some of the best hurlers we had at this grade. As for seniors, its a complete joke and as a county we are a laughing stock.
I agree a lot with what MR2 has said, no question the manager has to go, but more importantly the whole CB needs a good shake up, some good men in here but others with different agendas. It seems to be that instead of getting things right too many are happy to take the easy option most of the time and leave it to others who are left to do what they want.
1 example £2 for under 16's into games is disgraceful.
theres only one way to sort it, put yourself forward for CB, make a difference.
We will all follow your lead and put our names in, eh?  Let us know when you have your nomination paper in?
been there already but now ready to go back, might make a wee bit of difference, I imagine you've gave it a lot of thought yourself!
#12
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
July 27, 2015, 09:30:20 PM
hard luck to the minors some good work being done, unlucky with injuries but a fair effort. under 21's - cant see it happening here, we beat 2 very average teams with little or no preparation and whilst we have some great hurlers, you get out what you put in and there is no leadership from management and CB, just ticking another box. To be honest 3 weeks before the 1st u21 game KR wasn't aware of some of the best hurlers we had at this grade. As for seniors, its a complete joke and as a county we are a laughing stock.
I agree a lot with what MR2 has said, no question the manager has to go, but more importantly the whole CB needs a good shake up, some good men in here but others with different agendas. It seems to be that instead of getting things right too many are happy to take the easy option most of the time and leave it to others who are left to do what they want.
1 example £2 for under 16's into games is disgraceful.
theres only one way to sort it, put yourself forward for CB, make a difference.
#13
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
July 22, 2015, 09:03:16 PM
'county antrim post is a gutter rag' looks like quite a few of you bought it!

#14
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
July 10, 2015, 07:06:53 PM
St Galls never started and Loughgiel were pretty ruthless. Think there'll be tighter games before all is said and done.
Antrim panel is full of good hurlers but not all inter county standard, wouldn't surprise me If they were turned over. Win lose or draw the manager has to go. I haven't seen kevin ryan at a match in a long time and he relies totally on other identifying hurlers, especially regarding the under 21 team, I am aware of a number of very suitable players in the county that he didn't know even existed.
In my opinion we need someone who knows who the hurlers are, can think outside his own club and just bring a bit of common sense to it to start with, other areas can be improved on if the basic structures are set in place first.
#15
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
October 09, 2012, 11:20:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: wino on October 09, 2012, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 02:50:44 PM
But it sort of kills the reasoning behind Wino's post
We have been weak at minor the last few years, but unfortunately for these lads the numbers in their group have always been low. We still seem to be getting lads out of it coming into the senior ranks. Some of our current minors now have a senior championship medal in their collection.Moving down the age groups we are fairly strong and will mix it with anyone. I've no problems with our underage structures, but as you know it's always a work in progress and we constantly have to look at it as there is always room for improvement.

And so do we at minor, and the amount of minor players we have lost over the years that have 2 minor championship medals, 3/4 under 21 and senior is crazy, it doesn't mean anything.

I was just wondering why you and Skull talked about underage teams without actually remembering that you have struggled a bit at those age levels.

I can't say that we would be able to ensure we have full squads available for the league campaign but there will certainly be a train of thought to target home games and make sure the strongest team is out. Away games a different tactic would need to be employed. Will the reserves get a game? I might get another run out  :o

Here's a reason why it won't work. Taking your reserves to a strong away team. Doesn't make sense but no doubt this will happen in some cases