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« Reply #34560 on: July 20, 2021, 11:22:16 PM »
All games in division 1 off Friday except Kilcoo v Bryansford
Only 2 on in division 2
How has this come to this?
The first games should all start together
No matches next Friday either

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« Reply #34561 on: July 21, 2021, 01:03:22 AM »
Jeez there is some amount of whinging done on here.. just let them get on with it and see how it pans out.

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« Reply #34562 on: July 21, 2021, 07:33:05 AM »
Let them get on with what exactly hedge?
Approximately 240 club players wonít be getting on with anything Friday night
Try telling the club players who have been training from the first week of April to let them just get on with it.

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« Reply #34563 on: July 21, 2021, 08:53:38 AM »
Most senior players won't have a game now to August as next week's games as of due to the u20 final. And then the county board wants to run a senior league off like an East Down go game super blitz. Could games not go ahead on Friday and be starred as normal. No relegation from each league and let the club players get football. At the start of August, a lot of our senior footballers will not have played in the senior football league. I am not whingeing, I am stating the facts and it will get worse if win an Ulster final which I firmly believe we are capable of. Can this not be sorted ASAP

Where is the meeting supersub ?

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« Reply #34564 on: July 21, 2021, 09:15:11 AM »
Let them get on with what exactly hedge?
Approximately 240 club players wonít be getting on with anything Friday night
Try telling the club players who have been training from the first week of April to let them just get on with it.

A perfectly good Friday for football is being passed up on. Now 9 matches will be squeezed into 5 weeks for those other 240 club players. All of this just to suit a handful of players.




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« Reply #34565 on: July 21, 2021, 09:55:46 AM »
Extend the leagues out so they arenít cramped into a 5 week period and make the championships a straight knockout

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« Reply #34566 on: July 21, 2021, 10:14:28 AM »
Extend the leagues out so they arenít cramped into a 5 week period and make the championships a straight knockout

That will never happen as championship gates create the money for the county board and more games mean more money. Games are still going to be restricted to a certain number.
The timeframe for the championship is so tight due to Ulster championship so the best solution to this fiasco is to have the games started this week and take away the threat of relegation. Club players will be delighted to begin real football and the u20 players will have the best preparation going into the Ulster final.

Does anyone think I am talking bonkers.

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« Reply #34567 on: July 21, 2021, 12:22:13 PM »
Another season of nonsense in Down...does this carry on happen in other counties? Seems like it's always us in a tangle every year for some reason...

Games off this Friday, next Friday will probably be scrapped too...then Fridays and Mondays with Championship around the corner :(

Clubs don't want to play without their U20s and that's not surprising but the County Board should be ensuring the games go ahead as starred fixtures...like it's been done for years at Senior Level.

Solution is simple...scrap the relegation from Div1-3, two go up from Div2, Two up from Div3 and two up from Div4. Leaves us next year with 12 teams in Div1, 10 in Div2, 11 teams in Div3 and 10 in Div 4. There's benefit and incentive for every team and good competitive fixtures before Championship gets underway. Also means that no team is unduly hampered by not having the U20S.

Am I missing something here or why can't this be done?

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« Reply #34568 on: July 21, 2021, 12:32:55 PM »
Simpler solution.

Play the leagues. Play them with the u20 players.

And also donít send out messages to all clubs that the county under 20 management ďare prepared to release the following playersĒ.  As if somehow this is a benevolent act of kindness.

Maybe next year central council will do everyone a favour and not drop a county championship into the middle of the club season. But until then, donít take a shit on the clubs. We donít deserve that. Not for an underage football competition.

« Last Edit: July 21, 2021, 12:36:14 PM by thewobbler »

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« Reply #34569 on: July 21, 2021, 12:48:28 PM »
Anyways for a bit of lighthearted craic, what do you all think predictions for the leagues would be this year if all squads were full out? I'd go for the following:

DIV1:

Kilcoo
Burren
Clonduff
Mayobridge
CPN
Loughinisland
Carryduff
Ballyholland
Rostrevor
Bryansford

DIV2:

RGU
Castlewellan
Longstone
An Riocht
Glenn
Bredagh
Darraghcross
Saul
St Johns
Annaclone

Div3

Liatroim
Drumgath
Ballymartin
Saval
Shamrocks
Clann Na Banna
Tullylish
Bosco
Aughlisnafin
Attical
Teconnaught

Don't know enough about Div4 to even have an opinion...

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« Reply #34570 on: July 21, 2021, 01:16:51 PM »
Simpler solution.

Play the leagues. Play them with the u20 players.

And also donít send out messages to all clubs that the county under 20 management ďare prepared to release the following playersĒ.  As if somehow this is a benevolent act of kindness.

Maybe next year central council will do everyone a favour and not drop a county championship into the middle of the club season. But until then, donít take a shit on the clubs. We donít deserve that. Not for an underage football competition.

That's not going to happen and you know it, the whole thing is a mess and it needs to be sorted. Your own club has no game Friday and no game next Friday.

Also what would the penalty be if you played a starred player?

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« Reply #34571 on: July 21, 2021, 01:37:46 PM »
Anyways for a bit of lighthearted craic, what do you all think predictions for the leagues would be this year if all squads were full out? I'd go for the following:

DIV1:

Kilcoo
Burren
Clonduff
Mayobridge
CPN
Loughinisland
Carryduff
Ballyholland
Rostrevor
Bryansford

DIV2:

RGU
Castlewellan
Longstone
An Riocht
Glenn
Bredagh
Darraghcross
Saul
St Johns
Annaclone

Div3

Liatroim
Drumgath
Ballymartin
Saval
Shamrocks
Clann Na Banna
Tullylish
Bosco
Aughlisnafin
Attical
Teconnaught

Don't know enough about Div4 to even have an opinion...

I fancy St Pauls and Dromara to go up. There will be a few mis mathces in division 4.

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« Reply #34572 on: July 21, 2021, 01:42:40 PM »
The reason why itís not going to happen is because as county (a group of clubs) we collectively seem unwilling to consider and challenge the reasons why u20 county football would take precedence over senior club football.

Do I want our county to win championships? Yes.
Did i tune in each of the last two Fridays with a sense of expectation and later a sense of pride? Yes.

Do I think the absolute pursuit of this goal is worthy of obliterating the short window in which a club football season can take place? Absolutely no way.

Am I disgusted that players are being denied to their clubs 8 days before an underage county match, which as a decision means thereís no chance for the rest of this series of meeting halfway, bargaining, or showing of common sense anywhere ? Absolutely f**king yes.



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« Reply #34573 on: July 21, 2021, 01:57:40 PM »
The reason why itís not going to happen is because as county (a group of clubs) we collectively seem unwilling to consider and challenge the reasons why u20 county football would take precedence over senior club football.

Do I want our county to win championships? Yes.
Did i tune in each of the last two Fridays with a sense of expectation and later a sense of pride? Yes.

Do I think the absolute pursuit of this goal is worthy of obliterating the short window in which a club football season can take place? Absolutely no way.

Am I disgusted that players are being denied to their clubs 8 days before an underage county match, which as a decision means thereís no chance for the rest of this series of meeting halfway, bargaining, or showing of common sense anywhere ? Absolutely f**king yes.

Has your club made these views known or is that a personal opinion. The leagues should be starting on Friday, every single game.

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« Reply #34574 on: July 21, 2021, 02:50:32 PM »
Simple solution . Games should be starred and play on . Most of the teams in div 2/3 are affected by 1 and at most 2 starters . By changing the games they may be missing 1/2 of the of players who are available and fit now . Any division 1 team should be able to withstand the loss of a few 20 year old lads . Clubs with panels of 30+ saying they canít play and then saying they are thinking of their team Ö managers thinking of themselves . Star the games , think of the players who want to play and play on