Dup will never allow Irish language act

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Brendan

Quote from: weareros on October 02, 2025, 01:11:50 PMJust a shocking show that. No one can articulate a point - even the lads they let on the line can hardly express themselves and then Nolan can't understand them and then he's shouting like a lunatic. And then Bywson can't talk either and shouting jibberish over Francie Molloy who is not an Irish speaker but didn't take the bait and looked like he'd rather be in bed. To cap it off Nolan shows an alternative graphic of his show in Irish with the words O'Nuallain Beo in a weird squarish font and both he and Bwyson think it says Nollyann in bed. Just pure insulting shite by BBC TUV.

Harks back to the episode where Nolan kept laughing in your man's face abiut Flegorys Curry my Yogurt line, "come on of course its funny"

Substandard

Out of curiosity,  if, as Jamie professes, it will be vetoed by the DUP and chums, can it be appealed, and what happens then?  I'm just wondering because with dual language signs across Scotland and Wales, surely it couldn't be left out?  And then does Jamie focus his ire and intellect on the UK justice system or whoever happens to be prime minister of the day?
It's amusing trying to figure him out.

Armagh18

Quote from: Substandard on October 02, 2025, 04:53:23 PMOut of curiosity,  if, as Jamie professes, it will be vetoed by the DUP and chums, can it be appealed, and what happens then?  I'm just wondering because with dual language signs across Scotland and Wales, surely it couldn't be left out?  And then does Jamie focus his ire and intellect on the UK justice system or whoever happens to be prime minister of the day?
It's amusing trying to figure him out.
How dare they treat Norn Iron differently. Get the signs up immediately.

weareros

Quote from: Substandard on October 02, 2025, 04:53:23 PMOut of curiosity,  if, as Jamie professes, it will be vetoed by the DUP and chums, can it be appealed, and what happens then?  I'm just wondering because with dual language signs across Scotland and Wales, surely it couldn't be left out?  And then does Jamie focus his ire and intellect on the UK justice system or whoever happens to be prime minister of the day?
It's amusing trying to figure him out.

Can't say I understand it but sounds like a call-in goes to a scrutiny committee and if vote deemed to have an adverse impact on segment of population, then it goes back for another council vote and 80% is required this time. Two of course can play that game but strategic thinking would not be a strong point of Unionist politicians.

lenny

The most incredible thing is unionists can never see the enormous privilege and one way society they created and lived in for years. When you're used to privilege a little bit of equality feels to them like they're losing. So many streets and roads in the north have been named after british military wins, like agincourt avenue, or after royals or people like cromwell who killed thousands of Irish people. Universities and other institutions and bridges named after royals. The whole society was created to suit unionism and to try to erase any sense of Irishness. This whole one sided privilege remains in place to a large extent but still unionists cannot accept a small bit of irishness.

general_lee

I've worked with people from Loyalist heartlands in north and east Belfast. So many of them live in a complete bubble - some young people go over to university in Britain, see a bit of the world, mix with new people and come back with their eyes opened and a bit embarrassed by Unionist/Loyalist culture back home, but not these ones. They have little or no knowledge or exposure of Irish culture. You only have to look at that idiot that was planting devices at EBGAA. The mere concept of a GAA club in their vicinity fills them with rage, because they are insular, narrow minded bigots.

armaghniac

There may well be something in the theory that mixing a bit helps, John Taylor seems fairly relaxed

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AustinPowers

Quote from: lenny on October 02, 2025, 06:40:08 PMThe most incredible thing is unionists can never see the enormous privilege and one way society they created and lived in for years. When you're used to privilege a little bit of equality feels to them like they're losing. So many streets and roads in the north have been named after british military wins, like agincourt avenue, or after royals or people like cromwell who killed thousands of Irish people. Universities and other institutions and bridges named after royals. The whole society was created to suit unionism and to try to erase any sense of Irishness. This whole one sided privilege remains in place to a large extent but still unionists cannot accept a small bit of irishness.

Happened to have the pleasure of being in Lisburn a  few weeks back. It's an eye opener  for Britishness

Streets/estates featuring  the likes of Cromwell, Balmoral,  Sandringham, Kensington,  Windsor. It was like  I was in  Wootton Bassett or somewhere.

Best one was  Prince Andrew Way.  Maybe it should be 'The Prince Andrew Way ' (add  your own punchline). I wonder will they  change that name or  would that be  like a form of  royal blasphemy to  do so?

LC

Quote from: lenny on October 02, 2025, 06:40:08 PMThe most incredible thing is unionists can never see the enormous privilege and one way society they created and lived in for years. When you're used to privilege a little bit of equality feels to them like they're losing. So many streets and roads in the north have been named after british military wins, like agincourt avenue, or after royals or people like cromwell who killed thousands of Irish people. Universities and other institutions and bridges named after royals. The whole society was created to suit unionism and to try to erase any sense of Irishness. This whole one sided privilege remains in place to a large extent but still unionists cannot accept a small bit of irishness.

Not to many union jacks aground that particular street, you would be a very brave person if you tried to put one up.

Milltown Row2

My mum as a child lived in Balaclava street, when married moved to Elizabeth street.. all lower Falls..

The vast majority of workers in the Royal Victoria hospital are from the Falls..

The Shankill is Irish so is Donagadee

My gauge for where we are at is the hate still being spread/fuelled on social media and when you dip into these people's profiles you are amazed and saddened that it's all ages all genders.

Not sure how many generations need to die off before it's fixed

Education within PUL communities would be better going forward as a solution
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

trueblue1234

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2025, 10:33:25 PMMy mum as a child lived in Balaclava street, when married moved to Elizabeth street.. all lower Falls..

The vast majority of workers in the Royal Victoria hospital are from the Falls..

The Shankill is Irish so is Donagadee

My gauge for where we are at is the hate still being spread/fuelled on social media and when you dip into these people's profiles you are amazed and saddened that it's all ages all genders.

Not sure how many generations need to die off before it's fixed

Education within PUL communities would be better going forward as a solution
That's you out of the presidential race.
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Milltown Row2

Ah bummer! Arse licking ain't my thing!  ;D
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Norm-Peterson

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Quote from: Substandard on October 02, 2025, 04:53:23 PMOut of curiosity,  if, as Jamie professes, it will be vetoed by the DUP and chums, can it be appealed, and what happens then?  I'm just wondering because with dual language signs across Scotland and Wales, surely it couldn't be left out?  And then does Jamie focus his ire and intellect on the UK justice system or whoever happens to be prime minister of the day?
It's amusing trying to figure him out.

Gaelic signs would be more suitable to have in Ulster than in parts of Scotland where it wasn't spoken widely for example the southern areas that border England. I think you do get Gaelic surnames there but they would have came from the Highland clearances.
I am actually confused as to what the Ulster Protestants were historically. The history books tell us they were Anglo lowlanders yet many of them have Gaelic speaking names like Campbell, McCrea, McAllister, McMillen, McLean.
Apparently some Scots arrived after the plantations to escape famine and also during the Highland clearances. They would have eventually mixed with the Protestant community given that they were Protestant too. Similar to how a Polish person today is more likely to become mixed with the Catholics.

Another confusing thing is how you get Catholics with Scottish names from the gallowglass soldiers. McNeil is a good example of this, then you also get Protestant McNeil's who came after the reformation.


Wildweasel74

Wouldn't need drive up round Gweedore in Donegal, you got lost real quick with the signage!

weareros

Well according to the renowned Loyalist historians, the Loyalists were originally the Pretani (or as they were called in north of Ireland, the Cruithin), who were chased out of Ireland by the invading Gaels around 500 BC. The Gaels then colonised Ulster and brought the alien Irish language. To make things worse they then colonised Scotland. The poor auld Pretani (who were called the Picts in Scotland - again by renowned Loyalist historians) were nearly wiped out. But they made it back to Ulster to reclaim their native land in the 16th century. Of course these lads originally God's chosen people from Israel and the Red Hand is not the red hand of the Gaelic O'Neills but a red hand mentioned somewhere in the Old Testament. Ulster-Scots was their original language - not a West Germanic language either for the Loyalists/Pretani/Cruithin were the original Britons. They even gave their name to the British Isles.