Antrim Hurling

Started by milltown row, January 26, 2007, 11:21:26 AM

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keep her low this half

#39870
I see St Pauls won the Under 20 b competition. Well done them a junior championship last year and under 20 this year. Mini revival underway for St Pauls hurlers

Jonkunlon

Quote from: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:15:10 AM
I see St Pauls won the Under 20 b competition. Well done them a junior championship last year and under 20 this year. Mini revival underway for St Pauls hurlers

Is this a piss take?

paddyjohn

Quote from: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:15:10 AM
I see St Pauls won the Under 20 b competition. Well done them a junior championship last year and under 20 this year. Mini revival underway for St Pauls hurlers

Fair play to them. A good club doing serious work in the city, their minor footballers were also very unlucky to lose a county final this season.

Lord Antrim

Quote from: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:15:10 AM
I see St Pauls won the Under 20 b competition. Well done them a junior championship last year and under 20 this year. Mini revival underway for St Pauls hurlers
Good too see both teams fielding U20's and having and high scoring game can only help their senior squads..
Glenarm have benefited from Glenariffe developing their underage players where as Glenariffe couldn't field at U20's as lots of players had returned to their home club. They need to be careful otherwise they will only be known as a collect all for underage .
Saying that that might have been able to field if the broke the rules like it appears Loughgiel have done by fielding ineligible players

Lord Antrim

Quote from: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:03:26 AM
Loughgiel wom the under 20s today up in Armoy in a scrappy but enjoyable match. Some bad wides on both sides. Loughgiel got 3 goals in the last quarter to win it,

Very tense game and a terrible pitch , Armoy was like a bog
Ballycastle definitely knocking on the door with this bunch of lads only losing 2 from playing panel for next year .
It will be once again nip and tuck between them and Loughgiel - will be an interesting one to keep an eye on .
Also should be good for County U20's if we decide to take the competition seriously and select stronger panel including your A  grade club players 

It will be interesting to see if Loughgiel are sanctioned by CCC for playing Jack McCloskey - ineligible due to age being 1st year of Minor
Knowing how the county work they'll get away with it though - one rule for one as they saying goes (Remember nothing happened to them when they attacked Skinny and his umpires a couple of years back  at U16 league final)


Rian

Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 01, 2021, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:03:26 AM
Loughgiel wom the under 20s today up in Armoy in a scrappy but enjoyable match. Some bad wides on both sides. Loughgiel got 3 goals in the last quarter to win it,

Very tense game and a terrible pitch , Armoy was like a bog
Ballycastle definitely knocking on the door with this bunch of lads only losing 2 from playing panel for next year .
It will be once again nip and tuck between them and Loughgiel - will be an interesting one to keep an eye on .
Also should be good for County U20's if we decide to take the competition seriously and select stronger panel including your A  grade club players 

It will be interesting to see if Loughgiel are sanctioned by CCC for playing Jack McCloskey - ineligible due to age being 1st year of Minor
Knowing how the county work they'll get away with it though - one rule for one as they saying goes (Remember nothing happened to them when they attacked Skinny and his umpires a couple of years back  at U16 league final)

Short memory, minor final last year between Loughguile and Ballycastle , 2 bc men jumped the wire and punched a player and selector , nothing was done about this , must have different rules than the rest 😂

Lord Antrim

#39876
Quote from: Rian on November 02, 2021, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 01, 2021, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:03:26 AM
Loughgiel wom the under 20s today up in Armoy in a scrappy but enjoyable match. Some bad wides on both sides. Loughgiel got 3 goals in the last quarter to win it,

Very tense game and a terrible pitch , Armoy was like a bog
Ballycastle definitely knocking on the door with this bunch of lads only losing 2 from playing panel for next year .
It will be once again nip and tuck between them and Loughgiel - will be an interesting one to keep an eye on .
Also should be good for County U20's if we decide to take the competition seriously and select stronger panel including your A  grade club players 

It will be interesting to see if Loughgiel are sanctioned by CCC for playing Jack McCloskey - ineligible due to age being 1st year of Minor
Knowing how the county work they'll get away with it though - one rule for one as they saying goes (Remember nothing happened to them when they attacked Skinny and his umpires a couple of years back  at U16 league final)

Short memory, minor final last year between Loughguile and Ballycastle , 2 bc men jumped the wire and punched a player and selector , nothing was done about this , must have different rules than the rest 😂

From memory 1 McQuillan player and  1 Loughgiel player got sent off for the skirmish.
TC also lost his way because his glasses got mislaid but couldn't have happened to a nicer fella.
Was the mentor possibly assaulting an underage player at the time ??
so maybe some community  spirit bubbled over.and gave him a little friendly man to man reminder 😉

Rian

Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 02, 2021, 10:51:14 PM
Quote from: Rian on November 02, 2021, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 01, 2021, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:03:26 AM
Loughgiel wom the under 20s today up in Armoy in a scrappy but enjoyable match. Some bad wides on both sides. Loughgiel got 3 goals in the last quarter to win it,

Very tense game and a terrible pitch , Armoy was like a bog
Ballycastle definitely knocking on the door with this bunch of lads only losing 2 from playing panel for next year .
It will be once again nip and tuck between them and Loughgiel - will be an interesting one to keep an eye on .
Also should be good for County U20's if we decide to take the competition seriously and select stronger panel including your A  grade club players 

It will be interesting to see if Loughgiel are sanctioned by CCC for playing Jack McCloskey - ineligible due to age being 1st year of Minor
Knowing how the county work they'll get away with it though - one rule for one as they saying goes (Remember nothing happened to them when they attacked Skinny and his umpires a couple of years back  at U16 league final)

Short memory, minor final last year between Loughguile and Ballycastle , 2 bc men jumped the wire and punched a player and selector , nothing was done about this , must have different rules than the rest 😂

From memory 1 McQuillan player and  1 Loughgiel player got sent off for the skirmish.
TC also lost his way because his glasses got mislaid but couldn't have happened to a nicer fella.
Was the mentor assaulting an underage player at the time so maybe some community  spirit bubbled over.and gave him a little friendly man to man reminder 😉

The mentor was giving first aid to an Injured lg player and got punched by someone who had no reason to be on the field  , all on video aswell

Lord Antrim

#39878
Quote from: Rian on November 02, 2021, 11:07:16 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 02, 2021, 10:51:14 PM
Quote from: Rian on November 02, 2021, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 01, 2021, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:03:26 AM
Loughgiel wom the under 20s today up in Armoy in a scrappy but enjoyable match. Some bad wides on both sides. Loughgiel got 3 goals in the last quarter to win it,

Very tense game and a terrible pitch , Armoy was like a bog
Ballycastle definitely knocking on the door with this bunch of lads only losing 2 from playing panel for next year .
It will be once again nip and tuck between them and Loughgiel - will be an interesting one to keep an eye on .
Also should be good for County U20's if we decide to take the competition seriously and select stronger panel including your A  grade club players 

It will be interesting to see if Loughgiel are sanctioned by CCC for playing Jack McCloskey - ineligible due to age being 1st year of Minor
Knowing how the county work they'll get away with it though - one rule for one as they saying goes (Remember nothing happened to them when they attacked Skinny and his umpires a couple of years back  at U16 league final)

Short memory, minor final last year between Loughguile and Ballycastle , 2 bc men jumped the wire and punched a player and selector , nothing was done about this , must have different rules than the rest 😂

From memory 1 McQuillan player and  1 Loughgiel player got sent off for the skirmish.
TC also lost his way because his glasses got mislaid but couldn't have happened to a nicer fella.
Was the mentor assaulting an underage player at the time so maybe some community  spirit bubbled over.and gave him a little friendly man to man reminder 😉

The mentor was giving first aid to an Injured lg player and got punched by someone who had no reason to be on the field  , all on video aswell
Video - is that VHS or Betamax from the land time forgot🤣🤣🤣🤣
There is also some footage of some low life spitting on / at a team celebrating before the attack on a helpless women umpire
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But getting back to the 1st Question  - will the CCC sanction Lgiel  for breaking the rules and playing an ineligible player ?

Rian

#39879
Your saying ineligible as if we brought on a 25 year old 3 time senior all star, it was a 16 year old who was on the field for 10 mins in an u20 game , quite a big difference in someone being too young than too old , have to ask yourself if loughguile would of stooped this low after losing  ,  also the county board never informed us before hand that a 16 year was ineligible .it says on the official gaa rules that at under 20 grade , a player who is 4 years younger is ok to play

Lord Antrim

Quote from: Rian on November 02, 2021, 11:52:52 PM
Your saying ineligible as if we brought on a 25 year old 3 time senior all star, it was a 16 year old who was on the field for 10 mins in an u20 game , quite a big difference in someone being too young than too old , have to ask yourself if loughguile would of stooped this low after losing  ,  also the county board never informed us before hand that an u16 was ineligible .it says on the official gaa rules that at under 20 grade , a player who is 4 years younger is ok to play
Thanks Rian for confirming your club broke the rules - designed for child and  underage player protection /welfare , it is refreshingly honest of you.👍.
It is up to your club secretary to ensure you are compliant and for CCC to enforce those rules.   

Yep Ballycastle lost the game on the day , no question  about that but didn't that  ineligible player score a goal and was maybe on field when other 2 were scored so also involved???
Would the end result been the same if he hadn't played , maybe or maybe not but that is not the point.
Also should you have been in the final if the rules had been broken at your previous game against Dunloy , not sure if Jack played in that too.
BTW not the young lads fault and he is a talented hurler and will be involved in many a final going forward I'm sure.
There are competition rules laid out for our game and we just can't make them up or change them as we feel.
Also other clubs may have competed at U20 if they could have followed suit both in the A and B grades and played younger ineligible players.





johnnycool

Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 12:34:36 AM
Quote from: Rian on November 02, 2021, 11:52:52 PM
Your saying ineligible as if we brought on a 25 year old 3 time senior all star, it was a 16 year old who was on the field for 10 mins in an u20 game , quite a big difference in someone being too young than too old , have to ask yourself if loughguile would of stooped this low after losing  ,  also the county board never informed us before hand that an u16 was ineligible .it says on the official gaa rules that at under 20 grade , a player who is 4 years younger is ok to play
Thanks Rian for confirming your club broke the rules - designed for child and  underage player protection /welfare , it is refreshingly honest of you.👍.
It is up to your club secretary to ensure you are compliant and for CCC to enforce those rules.   

Yep Ballycastle lost the game on the day , no question  about that but didn't that  ineligible player score a goal and was maybe on field when other 2 were scored so also involved???
Would the end result been the same if he hadn't played , maybe or maybe not but that is not the point.
Also should you have been in the final if the rules had been broken at your previous game against Dunloy , not sure if Jack played in that too.
BTW not the young lads fault and he is a talented hurler and will be involved in many a final going forward I'm sure.
There are competition rules laid out for our game and we just can't make them up or change them as we feel.
Also other clubs may have competed at U20 if they could have followed suit both in the A and B grades and played younger ineligible players.

Ineligible player whether they're too old or too young, being on the field at all as an ineligible player the game is automatically forfeited to the opposition and a suspension for the chairperson and secretary.

Hard to believe LG did that if they did.


NAG1

Yeah JC, doesn't matter the rules are there for a reason and if you break them that's on you, especially when this rule was pretty well known before the competition even started.

johnnycool

Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2021, 08:55:44 AM
Yeah JC, doesn't matter the rules are there for a reason and if you break them that's on you, especially when this rule was pretty well known before the competition even started.

You'd hope that Antrim CCC take the initiative rather than wait on Ballycastle to complain, that would really be bad crack by CCC.


NAG1

Quote from: johnnycool on November 03, 2021, 09:19:06 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2021, 08:55:44 AM
Yeah JC, doesn't matter the rules are there for a reason and if you break them that's on you, especially when this rule was pretty well known before the competition even started.

You'd hope that Antrim CCC take the initiative rather than wait on Ballycastle to complain, that would really be bad crack by CCC.

Not holding out any hope with this administration, seem to more about getting shady back deals done to avoid having to make the hard calls.