He's the list of entries for this year. A fair few more than last year. The increase probably reflects the relative success of the competition. There's a couple of clubs I haven't heard off in that list. Who are Gael Chamabhainn from Tyrone for example? I didn't know there were so many hurling clubs in Cavan.
I'm disappointed with the turn out from Down. Why did Kilclief not enter No 1? They're always complaining about not getting enough matches in Down. Ballela, Liatroim & Ballyvarley are all missing as well but they have small numbers to pick from.
Antrim (22) Armagh (6)
Loughgiel Middletown
St Johns Keady
Ballycastle Cuchulainn
Rossa Sean Tracey's
Glenariff Killeavy
Lamh Dhearg Craobh Rua
St Paul's
Cushendun Donegal (6)
Gortnamona Burt
Carey Faughs Setanta
St Endas Mac Cumhaills
Rasharkin Aodh Ruadh
Armoy St Eunans
Ballymena Four Masters
Dunloy
St Galls Tyrone (5)
Sarsfields Eire Og
Tir Na Nog Eoghan Ruadh
Shane O Neills Shamrocks Strabane
St Brigids C Mills Naomh Colum Cille
Ardoyne Gael Chamabhainn
Creggan
Down ( 8 ) Fermanagh (2)
Ballycran Lisnaskea
Portaferry Lisbellaw
Ballygalget
Newry Shamrocks Monaghan (6)
Bredagh Castleblaney
St Peters W, point Truagh Gaels
Castlewellan Monaghan Harps
Clonduff Inniskeen
Carrickmacross
Latton
Derry ( 8 )
Kevin Lynch's
Banagher Cavan (4)
Ballinascreen Mullahoran
Lavey Ballymachugh
Slaughtniel Cavan Gaels
Swatragh Woodford Gaels
Eoghan Rua
Na Magha
Camowen Gaels are an amalgamation of Omagh & Killyclogher. They couldn't field on the own for a few years at adult level so decided to come together last year for Tyrone league & championship. Good to see them in the UHL. The more games the better.
Lecale, where did you get that list? there wouldnt be a Football one available would there?! or is there one on here already somewhere?!
sorry to bust in on you hurlers, i know how touchy ye can be with the footballers :P
yep definitely good to see the majority of clubs in the province getting involved.
Like you Lecale I'm surprised Kilclief didn't enter. It would be an ideal competition for them. Liatroim & Ballela struggle to field in the Down league because of small numbers so they are probably right not to take on more fixtures at this stage.
besides the Down teams mentioned above, is there any other clubs not in attendance?
Slim - it's on the Ulster Council web site and was E Mailed to clubs.
cheers Lecale, still no word on the football one though >:(
There's a few of the weaker Antrim clubs missing - Larne, Mitchels, Davitts, St Agnes', Eir Og, Clooney Gaels. Maybe more than that. I'm surprised at Clooney Gaels.
sure Clooney are still in the IHC and are preparing for that- training flat out round our place anyway! Even New Years Eve!!!
Good to see Dunloy, St Galls and Sarsfields on board. The lack of games in the Antrim league has moved this competition up the pecking order for the stronger clubs. It worked well in Div 2 and Div 3 last year and suspect Div 1 will be all the better in the coming year for the addition of those 3.
Another thing, the seedings will be better this year. Some clubs were clearly out of their Dept and I assume Frankie will take the opportunity to re-grade them. I've also heard that there are to be 4 Divisions rather than the 3 they had last year. Again this will, help ensure that each club gets competition of an appropriate level.
Clooney are preparing for their All Ireland JHC semi final. But there's no reason why that should stop them, entering the UHL. The JHC final will be well out of the way before the Ulster league gets started. I think this competition will go from strenght to strenght and it is good to see Galls and Dunloy in it this time round. The more matches clubs get during the good weather the better IMO.
any clooney gaels on the site? we are currently looking to have pre season games with any teams from mid january right through. hurling of course
Try mailing John at info@jfriel.com. Im sure he will sort you out with a friendly for Clooney Gaels.
Spirit of 98. For info.
Cheers Sky blue, must of missed this one.
any dates or make up of the leagues been agreed yet, what date did they start last year?
i have heard there will be 5 divisions this year, most with 14 teams in each divided into 2 sections of 7. top 4 in each go to quarter finals. this year there will be promotion and relegation which will sort the leagues out properly
Has anyone got the groups available to post? I heard they have been selected and sent to the clubs via e-mail.
no word yet on the Groupings?
Div 1
A
Ballycastle
Ballinascreen
Bannagher
Dunloy
Portaferry
St Galls
Rossa
1B
Ballycran
St Johns
Glenariff
Kevin Lynchs
Lavey
Loughgiel
Ballygalget
Div 2
A
Burt
Eire Og
Cushendun
Lamh Dhearg
Middletown
Slaughtniel
Sarsfields
2B
Carey Faughs
Castleblaney Faughs
Eoghain Ruadh
Gortnamona
Keady
St Pauls
Swatragh
Div 3
A
Armoy
Bredagh
Lisbellaw
Eoghan Rua
Setanta
Tir Na nÓg
Strabane Shamrocks
3B
Shane O Neills
Cuchulainn
Lisnaskea
Newry Shamrocks
Mac Cumhaills
Rasharkin
St Teresas
Div 4
A
St Endas
Sean Traceys
N Columcille
St Brigids C,Mills
Aodh Ruadh
Mullahoran
Castlewellan
Carrickmacross
4B
Creggan
Na Magha
St Peters W,point
St Eunans
Killeavy
Inniskeen
Monaghan Harps
Ballymachugh
Div 5
A
Ballymena
Craobh Rua
Four Masters
Cavan Gaels
Clonduff
5B
Latton
Ardoyne
Truagh Gaels
Woodford Gaels
Gael Chamabhainn
Have Cushendall no entered !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cushendall were in last year and didn't enter this time. Neither did St Malachy's, Portadown and Clontribiet.
Proposed Dates
1 Apr-07 7 Saturday Easter Rd 1
2 Apr-07 14 Saturday Rd 2
3 Apr-07 21 Saturday Rd 3
4 Apr-07 28 Saturday Rd 4
5 May-07 5 Saturday Rd 5
6 May-07 26 Saturday Rd 6
7 Jun-07 2 Saturday Rd 7
8 Jun-07 16 Saturday 1/4 Finals
9 Jul-07
28 Saturday Semi Finals
10 Sep-07 8 Saturday Finals
Some interesting groups. Obviously it will take another season to determine real standings with regards to ability, but Id say st endas and cloughmills should be division 3, not 4. Especially St Endas who are division 2 in Antrim. One, two and three will be tight. Id say loughgiel or ballygalget will win div1, with cusendun or lamh dearg winning division 2. 3 will be very hard to call with strabane, setanta, randalstown, cuchulains, newry and glenarm fighting it out. St Endas and cloughmills will be favourites for 4 while Ballymena or Four Masters will win 5
The credibilty of the competition is considerably damaged by the absence of the ulster champions. For a dual club like ourselves its a concern that a hurling only club is pulling out of this competition. It is hard to judge the value of this competition until we see the full fixture list for the Antrim leagues and how it all fits together.
I don't believe the league is weakend by not having Cushendal involved. Looking at Division one there is many great games ahead and with the structure of qtr finals etc to look forward to I believe the Ulster league is the future and soon we will see no Antrim, Derry or Down senior leagues with the Ulster being the premier competition.
Cushendal probably pulled out to give players a rest. They have been involved in long seasons over the past few years.
>:( >:(
HEY........I posted yesterday on this thread and it has been removed!!!!!!!
No cuss words!!
No offending anyone!!
Who could have done this?
>:( >:(
Quote from: MadMick007 on January 30, 2007, 11:52:10 AM
I don't believe the league is weakend by not having Cushendal involved. Looking at Division one there is many great games ahead and with the structure of qtr finals etc to look forward to I believe the Ulster league is the future and soon we will see no Antrim, Derry or Down senior leagues with the Ulster being the premier competition.
Cushendal probably pulled out to give players a rest. They have been involved in long seasons over the past few years.
Mick....untill you see the team sheets, you really cannot say that there is many great games ahead. I have heard absolutely no one in the top tier ever mention "great games" when they spoke about this competition and I've talked to plenty. The only positive they could come out with was that at least they were getting games (hardly a positive I know but that was a good as it got). Cushendall used alot of reserves and young players in this league last year so you can hardly use rest as an excuse for thier senior players if they did play many in it last year. And if they are looking for a rest after their all ireland campaign, then why have they entered the North Antrim "warm up" league (which has been newly set up by NA who have a forthright Cushendall man as its chairman)? This argument doesn't hold up!! As Maxpower has said it doesn't say much if a hurling only club in Antrim do not enter this competition. With All County league games the day after, expect depleted squads and poor quality fair which will do nothing to bring the game on in Div 1 within Antrim.
3B
Shane O Neills
Cuchulainn
Lisnaskea
Newry Shamrocks
Mac Cumhaills
Rasharkin
St Teresas
Anybody on the board from the above clubs, I'm with Cuchulianns,
Skull, I think you are being very short sighted. You continually focus on the Antrim set up and games within Antrim. In order to progress Hurling in both Antrim and Ulster the standard has to be raised throughout the province. There is no point in Antrim winning the Ulster final by 20 points. In order to raise the standard we need a strong competition across the board and the Ulster league is the means to do this. What eventually will happen is that the Ulster league will take over as the main league by means of the Ulster council marketing it better and providing better incentives for teams to win there leagues. If we have a situation where the Ulster league is run in the summer months with top class games with all clubs playing their top players is this a bad thing or would you still want to see the Antrim league dominate? So as you can win Ulster by 20Pt's. Come on move on, especially in these changing times.
I'm still sceptical of whether the UHL will replace the Antrim league as the priority competition for the top hurling clubs in Down and Antrim.
Ballygalget didn't put out full strength teams in it last year and with the same management at the helm I don't think that mentality will change even if the Antrim leagues have been eroded in the last number of years. When most of the UHL fixtures were played there were little or no club fixtures in Antrim (chicken and egg!!) but plenty of county fixtures, so the county players were rested
Theres no doubting that the weaker hurling teams are benefiting from regular competitive games probably at an equal or higher standard that what they have been accustomed to in the own county leagues, however I can't say the same for the Div 1 games in the Ulster league.
The Ulster council will need to prove they are in this for the long haul and only time will tell on that front.
Trying to keep my composure after that Mick :-\. I would prefer if you actually read what I have written rather than try and read between my lines and come up with what "you think" I am saying. I'll clarify my view for you shall I?
Quote from: MadMick007 on January 30, 2007, 01:04:59 PM
Skull, I think you are being very short sighted. You continually focus on the Antrim set up and games within Antrim. In order to progress Hurling in both Antrim and Ulster the standard has to be raised throughout the province.
The UHL should improve the standard of hurling in Ulster in the weaker counties IF the clubs are serious about it and their respective counties don't overburden dual clubs with football matches (the stronger sport in these counties) the next day which will ultimately deplete squads. Antrim should play their part in trying to help these clubs improve if they put out their full squads on take it seriously. I have grave doubts that this will ever happen. What makes you think it will?
Quote from: MadMick007 on January 30, 2007, 01:04:59 PM
In order to raise the standard we need a strong competition across the board and the Ulster league is the means to do this.
It has every chance if taken seriously to raise the standards at almost every level in Ulster except the top division in Antrim. However, If the UHL was the only game in town then the standard in Div 1 would be lowered. Playing the games on Saturday (combined with Dual player commitments on Sunday) as well as the fact County players won't be playing in it are the reasons why I hold this opinion
Quote from: MadMick007 on January 30, 2007, 01:04:59 PM
What eventually will happen is that the Ulster league will take over as the main league by means of the Ulster council marketing it better and providing better incentives for teams to win there leagues.
I cannot see this happening with the Antrim leagues (div1 and mabye div2) although I can see the argument for most of the other divisons/counties. What about clubs with reserve teams in Antrim. It's not that easy to split squads up and send them all over Ulster to fulfill fixtures and maintain support from players in the long term. Players on the fringe of the senior team will never get noticed if the play in different leagues at different venues. That is not workable from our clubs perspective.
Could I ask you if you think that each of the all county fixtures committees will agree to these matches being played on Sundays which they need to be for the UHL to become credible for a start? Is that not a big ask?
Quote from: MadMick007 on January 30, 2007, 01:04:59 PM
If we have a situation where the Ulster league is run in the summer months with top class games with all clubs playing their top players is this a bad thing or would you still want to see the Antrim league dominate?
That situation would be wonderfull Mick (I've assumed that the games will be on a Sunday). Nothing better in fact. At the moment though that is nothing more than a pipe dream that bears no relavence to my current views on the competition as it is today.
Quote from: MadMick007 on January 30, 2007, 01:04:59 PM
or would you still want to see the Antrim league dominate? So as you can win Ulster by 20Pt's. Come on move on, especially in these changing times.
Not once have I stated that it is my desire so why ask such stupid questions? I'll say it one more time. My desire is to see hurling standards in Antrim progress (NOT DOMINATE THE REST OF ULSTER). I would also love to see the standards of hurling progess in the rest of Ulster and believe that the UHL will help do this in weaker areas. Hopefully in time there will be nothing between the counties. But someone has to keep the standard high in the meantime. The top tier in Antrim will not be able to do this by playing in the UHL as it stands today. If Antrims standards fall then where will hurling in Ulster be?
Could you just elaborate on "these changing times"??? What does that mean?
My opimions are valid, pragmatic and widely held Mick, so please take a moment before you consider your reply.
The Ulster league is being held back by counties wanting to maintain there own leagues. Take Derry for example. For years they complained about not getting enough Hurling games and that leagues were never finished etc and when the Ulster league is announced they all of a sudden become protective of their league. The Antrim league as it is currently does not provide top class Hurley for the top teams. There is to many poor teams at the lower end.
Johnycool, you say that Ballygalget do not field strong teams, you state valid reasons but if it were to be played during peak season would they not filed strong teams. Who would you rather play Kevin Lynch's or Lambh Dearg?
Currently there is no great honour in winning the Antrim League as it was about 6 years ago. Put the priority on the Ulster league and we will see a bit of competition. Compare it to the English FA cup, nobody really gives a dam who wins it, the champions league is the pinnacle.
I agree with the points around reserves and for those teams who have reserves then maybe they can shadow the fixtures of the senior teams. This is something that can be developed.
Why not reverse the situation and play the county leagues early in the season and the ulster league in peak times. Surely this would provide strong matches coming up to championship.
There's no doubt that the extended inter county calendar has had a detrimental effect on club hurling with the Antrim league being a good example of that. The same debates about club and county games are going on in Clare and Limerick etc if you ever get a chance to follow a few of the topics on AFR.
Firstly the Ulster championship is a worthless competition now and secondly a lot of the round robin games in both the Christy Ring and Laim McCarthy are meaningless. I'd suggest that the same happens in the Nicky Rackard as well but I don't know for sure.
Streamline these competitions to free up weekends for club games, but also make the club competitons meaningful as well. The Antrim leagues were much stronger 6 to 7 years ago, why? Personally speaking i think i was more to do with having to move the bulk of the fixtures away from the normal sunday double bill, senior and reserves, day out for the family etc, etc and fitting them in willy nilly any night of the week especially if there's a fair amount of travelling involved.
I don't think its so much to do with weaker teams in the leagues as every once in a while every club has it's bad years, we were relegated in the mid ninties, Loughgeile had a few bad years where they should of been relegated but for a bit of jiggery pokery by the county board got to stay up. Ballycastle have had their problems recently as well, but I still don't think that is the main issue.
Get the club hurling back to sundays as much as possible by playing less crap inter county games would solve a load of the issues IMO.
Just because all county leagues are poor doesn't make the UHL league the panecea you seem to be making it out to be. You seem incapable of seeing the realities of the UHL as it stands today and why people who play at the the top level in Ulster have a problem with it in terms of offering a meaningful competition (which we all would like it to be). My viewpoint does not detract from someone in another part of the province who see's nothing but positives from the UHL, it just depends where hurling is at in your own part of the world. Why are you not prepared to accept that the views I hold are valid and in the intersts of progressing the game. You have yet to comment specifically on any of the saliant points I have made on this discussion so far rather you have simplistically attacked the antrim man for holding back the development of hurling in ulster which could not be further from the true. I would be grateful if you could address the points I have raised regarding the UHL and respond to these specifically.
Just to back up what JC has said, the All County League in Antrim has suffered initially as far back as 17 years from the increase in preparation time for our County Teams which has been made even worse by the increase in the number of County matches over recent years. This is the real reason for Antrims problems. What I would like to see is Antrim and every other County giving their players back to the clubs and letting them play. Make sure that every club trains their players properly, play regular matches, and pull the County Panels from those playing well in the league. We have tried hoarding County Players away for years and it hasn't gotten us to far up the road, so why do we keep putting our eggs in the one basket year after year after year ?? Croke Park like to pay lip service and say that the club is the heart of the GAA. Until they start changing their strategy and get away from being solely interested in money then I fear the worst for hurling in Antrim and in many other counties. The interest is on the wain simply because the scene does not exist for people to get into it
Lads slightly off topic
The Cavan Teams...how good are they? Anyone of you guys played against them
Division 3/4 Antrim standard? or what?
was thinking of maybe joining one of them.
This UL is potentially a great competition. It is planned to be played on Saturday nights away from Liam McCarthy etc matches so there is no excuse for teams to field weaken teams. If they want to that is up to them. But IMHO I reckon they should be considering the long term development of their club. Players need games. Antrim GAC didn't provide them last year or the year before. Clubs should focus on this league, take it seriously and use it to improve teams/players for the county championships. You have guaranteed games against opponents of an appropriate standard. What more do you want.
I post this in a personal capacity and not on behave of my club.
Come on G2 get into the real world. Playing matches on Saturday nights so that it doesn't clash with matches the next day is one of the reasons why it is a half arsed competition. Are you telling me that clubs with teams in the UHL will play all their top hurlers even though they may have to play in tight football match the next day? This will not happen and you know it...hence the standard of the games will be diminshed. Its too simplistic to say that players simply need games...the games need to be meaningful to be of use. I'm sure clubs will try and make the most of it but that does not mean the competition has serious flaws which I'm trying to point out so that they in the future might be addrressed. Until then my opinion still holds. BTW I have nothing but contempt for what the GAC did last year to hurling fixtures from U16 up into senior, but to suggest that that is a good enough reason to throw the towel in with an Antrim league is a bit over the top
The best of the cavan sides would be of division 4 standard. They got hammered by the antrim junior champions in the ulster club.
The Ulster league can inject some new life into club hurling. looking at the fixtures for Div1 I would say on paper they will provide better games than the Antrim or Derry league alone, and I would suspect the Down clubs would agree as they do not have a Senior League. With Div2 providing strong games for the weaker teams that would be in an Antrim or Derry Div1 and the prospect of promotion gives a real incentive to win these leagues. In essence the only thing that the Ulster leagues are missing are peak times for the fixtures. If the counties would move over and promote the Ulster league as the number one league we would see strong competition as you are looking for Skull.
people say the Antrim league was strong 6 to 7 years ago, was there any matches called off due to football then? Not very many.
Its time for change, Ulster league No.1
Quote from: MadMick007 on January 31, 2007, 10:52:42 AM
. In essence the only thing that the Ulster leagues are missing are peak times for the fixtures.
No Mick that is not all it is missing. The knock on effect of it being on Saturday is that many players won't play because of work commitments and/or matches (more important in their or their clubs opinion) being fixed for the next day. Add to that the fact that county players will also not play any part.
This makes it a poor competition which does nothing for the top tier of hurling. If it is not a good competition then there is a high possibility that many club will become disallusioned with it and pull out (you'd want to be travelling all those miles for a reason). Do you accept that this could happen?
Quote from: MadMick007 on January 31, 2007, 10:52:42 AM
If the counties would move over and promote the Ulster league as the number one league we would see strong competition as you are looking for Skull.
Look...the UHL is what it is today Mick. My comments are based on the current format. Let me know when they change the format and I may have a different opinion, but until then it is what it is currently..........
Quote from: MadMick007 on January 31, 2007, 10:52:42 AM
people say the Antrim league was strong 6 to 7 years ago, was there any matches called off due to football then? Not very many.
Well is suggest you speak to someone older then. The Antrim leagues were strong (i.e. regular, compeditive, meaningful, well attended) up to 1989 and they have been on the wain since as County Management became more and more driven to attain AI success. We have been digging away at the foundations of the game ever since and I can't see anyone trying to change it
Quote from: MadMick007 on January 31, 2007, 10:52:42 AM
Its time for change, Ulster league No.1
ra ra get the pom poms out ......don't listen to disenting voices... we are the devil
Good man Skull, i was all on for Dunloy to enter this competition after the fictures debacle that was last year but having given it a bit more thought over the winter i'm not so sure it will help any of the top clubs, and the withdrawal of cushendall does seriously concern me. that speaks volumes for what they think off it
Antrim's fixtures, to be sorted out on Thursday, already the Ulster council have set proposed dates for this, if like last year (even though we did not enter because of the all Ireland run, and maybe Cushendall have done the same) arranged our own leagues around the Ulster hurling league. This is wrong, I proposed last year that the Ulster league be played in February through to the start of our own leagues, this would be better than arranging challenge games. County players did not play anyway so they would not be missed, formations, tactics, and having a look at fringe players would be the benefits of an earlier start.
I'm all for the creation of a top tier format involving the top teams in Antrim, Down and Derry in high summer but this will never happen in football dominated counties (even Antrim is dominated by football and we are crap at it) so when they arrange hurling games on the Saturday night we will not have our footballers for they will be playing football the next day. So the standards will be poor.
So this year again the Antrim leagues will be arranged around the uhl.
Whats the bets more matches fixed after september than before June
heard it's the 14th of April for the start of the Ulster Hurling league no other news yet.
is it the same funding again for the games and did the clubs have any problems claiming the money from the Ulster Council last year?
Cushendall are not entering it because they have been training pretty much non stop for the last year so they dont need the extra workload. It is in my opinion a half arsed competition, we rested players last year because we couldnt afford any injuries, at the end of the day teams have 2 priorities, to either stay in Div 1 of ACL or to win the championship......
Quote from: aontroim on February 09, 2007, 02:03:07 PM
CCC league proposals sent to clubs today.
Hurling leagues to start on 18th April with 7 rounds of games being played on Wednesday nights until they switch to Sundays on July 1st.
Coincidentally that means there are no hurling league games fixed for the day after Ulster games on Saturdays - only football so dual clubs will end up fielding weakened UHL teams while hurling only clubs can field what they want.
All proposals up for discussion with clubs in a meeting with CCC in a couple of weeks time.
From the Antrim Hurling Thread
So MadMIck & G2, can you not see why genuine hurling people have such a problem the UHL? Take for instance my club Dunloy. We have easily 11-12 dual players, 4-5 young fringe players who really need to get a run in the hurling team to come on. Our Senior Footballers will argue (and they have a point) that these players will need to be rested in the UHL because they will be fighting for survival in Div 1 of the Antrim Leagues and need players fresh going into these games. So our club will probably be playing with about 3-4 first team players in the UHL. Yes 15 players will be getting games, but as a competition it is what it is.....third rate
Having no hurling league games on the Sunday after a UHL match is excellent. Pity about the football leagues but the best solution for Dunloy is to get rid of the footballs!
hear hear. i have heard though that Dunloy have told their players that hurling takes priority this year, if you miss training because of a football game then you wont play hurling that week
Trying to succeed in both codes with essentially the same group of players is a real problem. There is a real chance of burn out as players try to please 2 masters if its not managed in some way.
bump, any confirmation on the start date.
Heard its around the 7th April
'SportTracker' Ulster Senior Club Hurling League Fixtures 2007
- DIVISION 1A
07 April 2007
Ballycastle V Ballinascreen
Banager V Dunloy
Portaferry V St Galls
14 April 2007
Rossa V Portaferry
St Galls V Banager
Dunloy V Ballycastle
21 April 2007
Ballinascreen V Dunloy
Ballycastle V St Galls
Banager V Rossa
28 April 2007
Portaferry V Banager
Rossa V Ballycastle
St Galls V Ballinascreen
05 May 2007
Dunloy V St Galls
Ballinascreen V Rossa
Ballycastle V Portaferry
26 May 2007
Banager V Ballycastle
Portaferry V Ballinascreen
Rossa V Dunloy
02 June 2007
St Galls V Rossa
Dunloy V Portaferry
Ballinascreen V Banager
- DIVISION 1B
07 April 2007
Ballycran V St Johns
Glenariff V Kevin Lynchs
Lavey V Loughgiel
14 April 2007
Ballygalget V Lavey
Loughgiel V Glenariff
Kevin Lynchs V Ballycran
21 April 2007
St Johns V Kevin Lynchs
Ballycran V Loughgiel
Glenariff V Ballygalget
28 April 2007
Lavey V Glenariff
Ballygalget V Ballycran
Loughgiel V St Johns
05 May 2007
Kevin Lynchs V Loughgiel
St Johns V Ballygalget
Ballycran V Lavey
26 May 2007
Glenariff V Ballycran
Lavey V St Johns
Ballygalget V Kevin Lynchs
02 June 2007
Loughgiel V Ballygalget
Kevin Lynchs V Lavey
St Johns V Glenariff
- DIVISION 2A
07 April 2007
Burt V Eire Óg
Cushendun V Slaughtniel
Sarsfields V Middletown
14 April 2007
Lamh Dhearg V Sarsfields
Middletown V Cushendun
Slaughtniel V Burt
21 April 2007
Eire Óg V Slaughtniel
Burt V Middletown
Cushendun V Lamh Dhearg
28 April 2007
Sarsfields V Cushendun
Lamh Dhearg V Burt
Middletown V Eire Óg
05 May 2007
Slaughtniel V Middletown
Eire Óg V Lamh Dhearg
Burt V Sarsfields
26 May 2007
Cushendun V Burt
Sarsfields V Eire Óg
Lamh Dhearg V Slaughtniel
02 June 2007
Middletown V Lamh Dhearg
Slaughtniel V Sarsfields
Eire Óg V Cushendun
- DIVISION 2B
07 April 2007
Castleblaney V Carey Faughs
Eoghain Ruadh V Gort na Mona
Keady V St Pauls
14 April 2007
Swatragh V Keady
St Pauls V Eoghain Ruadh
Gort na Mona V Castleblaney
21 April 2007
Carey Faughs V Gort na Mona
Castleblaney V St Pauls
Eoghain Ruadh V Swatragh
28 April 2007
Keady V Eoghain Ruadh
Swatragh V Castleblaney
St Pauls V Carey Faughs
05 May 2007
Gort na Mona V St Pauls
Carey Faughs V Swatragh
Castleblaney V Keady
26 May 2007
Eoghain Ruadh V Castleblaney
Keady V Carey Faughs
Swatragh V Gort na Mona
02 June 2007
St Pauls V Swatragh
Gort na Mona V Keady
Carey Faughs V Eoghain Ruadh
- DIVISION 3A
07 April 2007
Armoy V Bredagh
Lisbellaw V Shamrocks
Setanta V Eoghan Rua
14 April 2007
Tir Na nÓg V Setanta
Eoghan Rua V Lisbellaw
Shamrocks V Armoy
21 April 2007
Bredagh V Shamrocks
Armoy V Eoghan Rua
Lisbellaw V Tir Na nÓg
28 April 2007
Setanta V Lisbellaw
Tir Na nÓg V Armoy
Eoghan Rua V Bredagh
05 May 2007
Shamrocks V Eoghan Rua
Bredagh V Tir Na nÓg
Armoy V Setanta
26 May 2007
Lisbellaw V Armoy
Setanta V Bredagh
Tir Na nÓg V Shamrocks
02 June 2007
Eoghan Rua V Tir Na nÓg
Shamrocks V Setanta
Bredagh V Lisbellaw
- DIVISION 3B
07 April 2007
Shane O Neills V Cúchulainns
Lisnaskea V Newry Shamrocks
Mac Cumhaills V St Teresas
14 April 2007
Rasharkin V Mac Cumhaills
St Teresas V Lisnaskea
Newry Shamrocks V Shane O Neills
21 April 2007
St Teresas V Rasharkin
Newry Shamrocks V Mac Cumhaills
Cúchulainns V Lisnaskea
28 April 2007
Mac Cumhaills V Lisnaskea
Rasharkin V Shane O Neills
St Teresas V Cúchulainns
05 May 2007
Newry Shamrocks V St Teresas
Cúchulainns V Rasharkin
Shane O Neills V Mac Cumhaills
26 May 2007
Lisnaskea V Shane O Neills
Mac Cumhaills V Cúchulainns
Rasharkin V Newry Shamrocks
02 June 2007
Cúchulainns V Newry Shamrocks
Shane O Neills V St Teresas
Lisnaskea V Rasharkin
- DIVISION 4A
07 April 2007
St Endas V Sean Traceys
N Columcille V St Brigids C'Mills
Aodh Ruadh V Mullahoran
Castlewellan V Carrickmacross
14 April 2007
St Brigids C'Mills V St Endas
Sean Traceys V N Columcille
Carrickmacross V Aodh Ruadh
Mullahoran V Castlewellan
21 April 2007
St Endas V Aodh Ruadh
Sean Traceys V St Brigids C'Mills
Castlewellan V N Columcille
Carrickmacross V Mullahoran
28 April 2007
Castlewellan V St Endas
Aodh Ruadh V Sean Traceys
Mullahoran V St Brigids C'Mills
N Columcille V Carrickmacross
05 May 2007
St Endas V Carrickmacross
Sean Traceys V Castlewellan
St Brigids C'Mills V Aodh Ruadh
N Columcille V Mullahoran
26 May 2007
Mullahoran V St Endas
Carrickmacross V Sean Traceys
Castlewellan V St Brigids C'Mills
Aodh Ruadh V N Columcille
02 June 2007
St Endas V N Columcille
Sean Traceys V Mullahoran
St Brigids C'Mills V Carrickmacross
Aodh Ruadh V Castlewellan
- DIVISION 4B
07 April 2007
Creggan V Na Magha
St Peters W'point V St Eunans
Killeavy V Inniskeen
Monaghan Harps V Ballymachugh
14 April 2007
St Eunans V Creggan
Na Magha V St Peters W'point
Ballymachugh V Killeavy
Inniskeen V Monaghan Harps
21 April 2007
Creggan V Killeavy
Na Magha V St Eunans
Monaghan Harps V St Peters W'point
Ballymachugh V Inniskeen
28 April 2007
Monaghan Harps V Creggan
Killeavy V Na Magha
Inniskeen V St Eunans
St Peters W'point V Ballymachugh
05 May 2007
Creggan V Ballymachugh
Na Magha V Monaghan Harps
St Eunans V Killeavy
St Peters W'point V Inniskeen
26 May 2007
Inniskeen V Creggan
Ballymachugh V Na Magha
Monaghan Harps V St Eunans
Killeavy V St Peters W'point
02 June 2007
Creggan V St Peters W'point
Na Magha V Inniskeen
St Eunans V Ballymachugh
Killeavy V Monaghan Harps
- DIVISION 5A
07 April 2007
Ballymena V Craobh Rua
Four Masters V Cavan Gaels
14 April 2007
Clonduff V Four Masters
Cavan Gaels V Ballymena
21 April 2007
Craobh Rua V Cavan Gaels
Ballymena V Clonduff
28 April 2007
Four Masters V Ballymena
Clonduff V Craobh Rua
05 May 2007
Cavan Gaels V Clonduff
Craobh Rua V Four Masters
- DIVISION 5B
07 April 2007
Latton V Ardoyne
Truagh Gaels V Woodford Gaels
14 April 2007
Gael Chamabhainn V Truagh Gaels
Woodford Gaels V Latton
21 April 2007
Ardoyne V Woodford Gaels
Latton V Gael Chamabhainn
28 April 2007
Truagh Gaels V Latton
Gael Chamabhainn V Ardoyne
05 May 2007
Woodford Gaels V Gael Chamabhainn
Ardoyne V Truagh Gaels
Who are Shane O'Neills - re Div 3B
Shane O Neills GAC is Glenarm, Antrim
I might have missed this but did Setanta not get a ban from playing this year or has it been over turned.
Also, again excuse my ignorance but anyone know who Mac Cumhaills are?
Their ban was over-turned. McCumhaills are Ballybofey.
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 13, 2007, 02:07:53 PM
Their ban was over-turned. McCumhaills are Ballybofey.
great!! that'll be the team building day out!!
Aye, if your down there on a saturday you may aswell hit letterkenny or strabane!
The Ulster club Hurling league is the way forward, to improving the overall standard in ulster and particularly in derry. However are the county boards taking it seriously. Kevin Lynch's have been fixed to play glenariff in glenariff at 6.30 on saturday while they are scheduled to have a derry league game at 6pm in Dungiven. There are 3 times throughout the year that this happens and god knows how many time there are senior football games in derry fixed at the same time as ulster hurling league games. It is about time the derry county board stops talking bout promoting hurling and actually repects this league as it could prove invaluable to the derry clubs involved! Kevin ynchs alone will get qulaity matches against ballygalget, ballycran and lougheil in a competitive situation instead of just meeting them for a meaningless friendly while bangher and screen get games against dunloy, portaferry and rossa!
Dont know about other clubs but this UHL is posing a big problem for our club with a fixture clash with our club football.
We have about 8 or 9 dual players so i dont know how its going to work particularly as our footballers are making a push for promotion.....
On a positive note as a player playing in the UHL is a lot better than the Derry div 2 league cos most of the games are actually played :-X
tyler you forgot to mention Naomh Gall, we played the first of our games last night in Portaferry and a very competitive game it was 2.11 2.07 ports were obviously without braniff and convrey but we were also missing a host of players......
but your right about meaningfull games,last nights was a proper game played to the final whistle and not a dirty stroke all night.
this gave a lot of players a chance to play a top team that come the league may not get he chance. roll on the next one
What's your club doodaa?
Is it any wonder that hurling struggles to survive in dual counties. Hearts and minds
Dates for the Ulster league were notified to County Boards well in advance and they were warned not to fix other matches in competition to the UHL.
your rite colonel but this is the derry county board. They will proabley say that the ulster league game should be re-arranged by the respective clubs, however they dont seem to understand that there are several players in Dublin during the week, several players in the middle of university finals which kind of rules out mid week games. and then there is senior football games and training and with 90% of our player dual players, putting additional strain on players
Miltown, sorry i left unes out there, good result last nite, Portaferry are a good side. Have you kept many of ur minor team from the ulster final in 2001 i think. That was a very good side, and that was one hell of a game!!
at least 13 players from that side, both games were a credit to the teams involved but the same 13 players have been involved with all ireland team last year so i know where your coming from regarding dual players. it's been a struggle here for years, it's getting the right balance hopefully we will get it right
Any results lads?
BCastle beat Ballinascreen 0-15 to 0-8 - decent game, the town played well with their young players to te fore. Two Dallats were excellent. Dungiven never fielded against Glenarriffe!! Ref was there but Kevin Lynchs didnt have the manners to let anyone know they wudnt be fielding!! Typical Derry arrogance >:(
Loughgiel beat Lavey. Not sure by how much though.
Carey Stuffed last years DIV 2 Champions CastleBlaney - 4-26 to 1-7 i think.
Armoy Glen Rovers beat Bredagh 2-13 0-09 in Div 3.
Quote from: North Antrim on April 08, 2007, 06:26:08 PM
Dungiven never fielded against Glenarriffe!! Ref was there but Kevin Lynchs didnt have the manners to let anyone know they wudnt be fielding!! Typical Derry arrogance >:(
Aye those tossers never bothered letting anyone know they wouldnt be appearing, they were probably having some sort of IRA remembrance parade up and down the main street in Dungiven.
The Truth hurts :P
Quote from: The Truth on April 09, 2007, 08:30:17 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on April 08, 2007, 06:26:08 PM
Dungiven never fielded against Glenarriffe!! Ref was there but Kevin Lynchs didnt have the manners to let anyone know they wudnt be fielding!! Typical Derry arrogance >:(
Aye those tossers never bothered letting anyone know they wouldnt be appearing, they were probably having some sort of IRA remembrance parade up and down the main street in Dungiven.
Don't see anything wrong with commerating people that died for rights of Irish people on this island. As something to be mocked at. But anyway, back to the subject of HURLING yes Dungiven should have let people know through better channels than the ones I am sure they did use to let people know they couldn't fulfil the fixture.
Quote from: The Truth on April 09, 2007, 08:30:17 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on April 08, 2007, 06:26:08 PM
Dungiven never fielded against Glenarriffe!! Ref was there but Kevin Lynchs didnt have the manners to let anyone know they wudnt be fielding!! Typical Derry arrogance >:(
Aye those tossers never bothered letting anyone know they wouldnt be appearing, they were probably having some sort of IRA remembrance parade up and down the main street in Dungiven.
Havent heard anything yet,but I'd doubt that Kevin Lynch's (not the name of the club - not Dungiven...thats the footballers) wouldnt have contacted someone.
The hurling team generally are not the ones parading through the streets, there are plenty more to do that. :-*
Quote from: lynchbhoy on April 10, 2007, 09:18:41 AM
Quote from: The Truth on April 09, 2007, 08:30:17 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on April 08, 2007, 06:26:08 PM
Dungiven never fielded against Glenarriffe!! Ref was there but Kevin Lynchs didnt have the manners to let anyone know they wudnt be fielding!! Typical Derry arrogance >:(
Aye those tossers never bothered letting anyone know they wouldnt be appearing, they were probably having some sort of IRA remembrance parade up and down the main street in Dungiven.
Havent heard anything yet,but I'd doubt that Kevin Lynch's (not the name of the club - not Dungiven...thats the footballers) wouldnt have contacted someone.
The hurling team generally are not the ones parading through the streets, there are plenty more to do that. :-*
Well normal procedure is to contact the secretary of the club you are playing to let them know, they didnt bother. Fact.
Shane O'Neills 1-12 1-1 Cuchulianns, Armagh
The contest was a lot closer than the score line suggests. Unable to take our scores, but a least we were creating them.
Quote from: The Truth on April 10, 2007, 09:54:40 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on April 10, 2007, 09:18:41 AM
Quote from: The Truth on April 09, 2007, 08:30:17 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on April 08, 2007, 06:26:08 PM
Dungiven never fielded against Glenarriffe!! Ref was there but Kevin Lynchs didnt have the manners to let anyone know they wudnt be fielding!! Typical Derry arrogance >:(
Aye those tossers never bothered letting anyone know they wouldnt be appearing, they were probably having some sort of IRA remembrance parade up and down the main street in Dungiven.
Havent heard anything yet,but I'd doubt that Kevin Lynch's (not the name of the club - not Dungiven...thats the footballers) wouldnt have contacted someone.
The hurling team generally are not the ones parading through the streets, there are plenty more to do that. :-*
Well normal procedure is to contact the secretary of the club you are playing to let them know, they didnt bother. Fact.
The sec didnt get any call then, dont know what the prob was here
if there was a mix up in KL or even if they tried .
I would expect that the club thought that someone was informing your club sec - so it would be an individuals fault rather than a club consensus initiative....
Are the Derry teams committed to the Ulster Hurling League? I here reports that Lavey are pulling out due to so called fixture conjestion.
Quote from: MadMick007 on April 11, 2007, 08:48:25 AM
Are the Derry teams committed to the Ulster Hurling League? I here reports that Lavey are pulling out due to so called fixture conjestion.
There's a full round of ACHL matches fixed for Sunday, the day after the Ulster League. Who ever sets the fixtures isn't making it easy for them. I haven't heard about anybody pulling out. They will probably be fined if they pull out now and will miss out on the Ulster Council expenses.
Quote from: Blacksheep on April 11, 2007, 09:13:43 AM
Quote from: MadMick007 on April 11, 2007, 08:48:25 AM
Are the Derry teams committed to the Ulster Hurling League? I here reports that Lavey are pulling out due to so called fixture conjestion.
There's a full round of ACHL matches fixed for Sunday, the day after the Ulster League. Who ever sets the fixtures isn't making it easy for them. I haven't heard about anybody pulling out. They will probably be fined if they pull out now and will miss out on the Ulster Council expenses.
Who's Not making it easy for who? Frankie Quinn met all 9 county boards to alleviate any fixture congestion. the boards were given the fixture list for the UHL, they knew the dates yet still went ahead and fixed games to coincide with the UHL.
Seems to me like Derry dont give a fcuk about promoting hurling. And dont start about the pros and cons of the UHL, we ahve already heard enough sbout it, its here to stay so get used to it
UHL dates were sent out well in advance so whoever sets the fixtures for the Derry ACHL is at fault. The problem for the Derry clubs is that finishing league position determines where you enter the SHC therefore it will be seen as a priority.
BTW you're right about the Derry Co Board not giving a flying one about promoting hurling but they aren't alone in the north.
The hurling in Londonderry is in an atrocious state. This needs to be addressed to enable Ulster teams to compete effectively with the Irish ones. Have yous no pride?
Quote from: William_Ulsterman on April 11, 2007, 08:03:05 PM
The hurling in Londonderry is in an atrocious state. This needs to be addressed to enable Ulster teams to compete effectively with the Irish ones. Have yous no pride?
You're lost, clueless, and confused. Go home... to Scotland!
Och noo thats no very friendly ;D
Its funny you mentioned fair Caledonia, I was only going to suggest a new international competition between Ireland, Scotland and Ulster, with each nation playing their variant of the game. Could be popular.
Quote from: William_Ulsterman on April 11, 2007, 10:06:15 PM
Och noo thats no very friendly ;D
Its funny you mentioned fair Caledonia, I was only going to suggest a new international competition between Ireland, Scotland and Ulster, with each nation playing their variant of the game. Could be popular.
I'll be as "friendly" as you want to be sir, and I'm more than willing to inform you of the Gaeilge Irishness of Uladh (Ulster), the last true Irish province to be subjugated by your crown, and only by being overwhelmed by those planted on the soil to dispossess the natives. Just give me the invitation, and a whole history lesson awaits your good self. :)
::)
Aye no doubt! I'm here to talk about promoting ULSTER hurling. Why don't you take your history lesson over to sluggerotoole along with all the other tossers talking shite!
Everybody knows they play shinty in Scotland, hurley in Ireland and hurling in Ulster. I'd love to see the three great games come together in an international tournament.
I hear the Lynches have pulled out of the UHL which is a shame. One year they are taking the current Ulster champions to a replay, the next they are struggling to put out a team in the UHL for whatever reasons.
Paudie Butler should be dispatched North to get to the bottom of it.
Quote from: William_Ulsterman on April 12, 2007, 08:43:08 PM
::)
Aye no doubt! I'm here to talk about promoting ULSTER hurling. Why don't you take your history lesson over to sluggerotoole along with all the other tossers talking shite!
Everybody knows they play shinty in Scotland, hurley in Ireland and hurling in Ulster. I'd love to see the three great games come together in an international tournament.
Like I said, you're lost, confused, and clueless -- they play hurling in the 9 counties of Ulster as they do in the other 23 counties of Ireland, to degrees of lesser or greater success. Take your political baggage and hawk it elsewhere, it's more suited to an audience of like-minded in-denial buffoons.
I see Kevin Lynchs Dungiven & Lavey have pulled out of Ulster League, and next weekend teams are being asked to play UHL on a Saturday night & Antrim league matches on Sunday. I thought the whole idea of Ulster League was there would be no conflict of fixtures with the Antrim Leagues......
I was at the match between Loughguile and Glenariffe yesterday. Wasn't too impressed with either team I have to say. Loughguile were very dirty..I didn't realise gorillas could play hurling. AMAZING!
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on April 15, 2007, 11:24:14 AM
I was at the match between Loughguile and Glenariffe yesterday. Wasn't too impressed with either team I have to say. Loughguile were very dirty..I didn't realise gorillas could play hurling. AMAZING!
The Shamrocks are one of the best "non-championship" teams i have seen. I have a feeling when the action is a bit more meaningful in September they will wilt badly, and do what they do best, go to the Pound.
Aye your rite about the shams.....heard it was physical enough match. They won handy though. Was at Dunloy v Ballycastle match. Dunloy won by two points. Both teams were short a number of players. It was a good well fought game. Ballycastle played well and showed a good level of fitness.
There seems to be a few teams have pulled out already, Dungiven & Lavey being 2 of them. It is a bit much asking teams to play Ulster League on Saturday night then All County the next day.
Sporttracker Ulster Hurling League Results
14th April 2007
Div 1
Rossa 1.08 V 1.11 Portaferry
St Galls 4.12 V 0.11 Bannagher
Dunloy 1.12 V 0.12 Ballycastle
Section B
Ballygalget OFF V Lavey
Loughgiel 1.19 V 0.06 Glenariff
Kevin Lynchs wd V Ballycran
Div 2 Section A
Lamh Dhearg 3.13 V 3.07 Sarsfields
Slaughtniel Off V Burt
Section B
St Pauls Off V Eoghain Ruadh
Gortnamona 2.12 V 1.13 Castleblaney
Div 3 Section A
Tir Na nÓg 2.11 V 1.21 Setanta
Eoghan Rua Off V Lisbellaw
Strabane Shamrocks 0.08 V 1.19 Armoy
Section B
Rasharkin 2.13 V 0.10 Mac Cumhaills
Newry Shamrocks 2.09 V 1.14 Shane O Neills
Div 4 Section A
St Brigids C,Mills 0.09 V 1.10 St Endas
Sean Traceys 0.06 V 1.10 N Columcille
Carrickmacross 1.15 V 1.13 Aodh Ruadh
Mullahoran 2.07 V 3.09 Castlewellan
Section B
St Eunans 7.09 V 4.10 Creggan
Na Magha 2.10 V 1.12 St Peters Warrenpoint
Ballymachugh 2.05 V 0.16 Killeavy
Inniskeen 2.08 V 2.07 Monaghan Harps
Div 5 Section A
Clonduff 3.05 V 3.08 Four Masters
Cavan Gaels Off V Ballymena
Section B
Gael Chamabhainn 2.03 V 2.05 Truagh Gaels
Woodford Gaels 0.09 V 3.08 Latton
With Div1B now down to 4 teams with the withdrawl of the two Derry teams, Ballygalget and Ballycran rearranged a fixture for yesterday rather than next saturday night and the galgets came out on top by 9 points or so, can't be sure as the scoreboard was turned off seconds after the final whistle.
It was an entertaining enough game until Ballycran lost their corner back with a straight red for a wild pull, tommy mcintyre didn't really have much thinking to do about it.
After that it was really one way traffic although Ballycran did stage a bit of a fightback with Ballygalget getting a bit complacent and everyone wanting to be the free man.
Maybe the Ballycran management were making a bit of a statement by dropping Brendan McGourty for going away with the county footballers the previous weekend, which does seem a bit petty and may come back to bite them if they start breaking their own rules later in the year. Both McGourty and Andy Bell will make big differences to the team but it's the lack of firepower that is their downfall and I'm not so sure if any of the young guns that they are pinning their hopes on are there yet.
Quote from: johnneycool on April 16, 2007, 10:17:50 AM
With Div1B now down to 4 teams with the withdrawl of the two Derry teams, Ballygalget and Ballycran rearranged a fixture for yesterday rather than next saturday night and the galgets came out on top by 9 points or so, can't be sure as the scoreboard was turned off seconds after the final whistle.
Glenariffe Oisins are down, according to the fixtures, to play Ballygalget next Saturday (21stApril). ??? ???
We played Banagher at the weekend think they had a few missing, we had some missing as well but entertaining game and we are glad of it. Not too many teams playing at full strength yet so not sure how teams are taking shape for the year ahead.
Away to Ballycastle next week hopefully the weather continues.
The Banagher lads were saying they had a Derry League fixture the next day which seems unfair. Are the north Antrim teams putting out full teams next week the day before the All County League games? Tough ask as we had to sub a few of our dual players as they had football games the next day (we've 3 football teams) maybe 2 players didn't play the next day. With the hard ground injuries will mount up soon
Quote from: milltown row on April 16, 2007, 12:23:53 PM
Are the north Antrim teams putting out full teams next week the day before the All County League games? Tough ask as we had to sub a few of our dual players as they had football games the next day (we've 3 football teams) maybe 2 players didn't play the next day. With the hard ground injuries will mount up soon
We (Oisins) play on Sat in UHL and then ACL on Sunday as i think most teams do this coming weekend. We will probably play a weakened team in UHL as we are only using it to gain fitness and try some different players, league will take priority. But we will have a fair few fellows playing both games as we wouldnt have the numbers to put out 2 different teams for the 2 matches. I thought the UHL would work well this year as quite a few of the ACL games were to be played on a Wed night, but evidently not. Lavey & Dungiven have pulled out of our section already due to fixyure demands.
QuoteI thought the UHL would work well this year as quite a few of the ACL games were to be played on a Wed night
Truth, this was the case alright until the hurling only clubs in N. Antrim asked for more Sunday matches saying they didnt care about the Ulster League that much - so the Div 1 Wednesday games were re-arranged to Sundays where possible to keep them happy.
Lavey haven't pulled out but are trying to rearrange their fixtures which would of left them playing a Derry league game at 6pm, UHL at 6.16pm on saturday night not to mention two football games on the sunday.
Anyone got a list of the results from the weekend?
You'd have thought that with all the paid administrators working at provincial level that somebody would be tasked with posting these results on the Ulster GAA website on a timely fashion
True, are the results not on the Irish News online version?
Don't have the permissions :(
No ulster league results in IN today.
from the ulster gaa web shite
- Saturday 21st April -
Division 1A
Ballinascreen 2-07 V 3-23 Dunloy
Ballycastle 2-12 V 0-12 St Galls
Banagher OFF Rossa
Division 1B
St Johns V wd Kevin Lynchs
Ballycran 1-14 V 3-06 Loughgiel
Glenariff 2-06 V 1-14 Ballygalget
Division 2A
Eire Óg V Slaughtniel
Burt OFF Middletown
Division 2B
Carey Faughs OFF Gortnamona
Castleblaney 3-11 V 3-14 St Pauls
Division 3A
Bredagh 2-19 V 1-06 Shamrocks
Armoy V Eoghan Rua
Lisbellaw 1-06 V 3-08 Tir Na nÓg
Division 3B
Newry Shamrocks 2-12 V 1-06 Mac Cumhaills
Cuchulainn 2-10 V 107 Lisnaskea
Division 4A
St Endas 1-13 V 0-06 Aodh Ruadh
Sean Traceys 2-08 V 4-12 St Brigids C,Mills
Castlewellan 2-15 V 3-12 N Columcille
Carrickmacross V Mullahoran
Division 4B
Creggan 1-12 V 3-07 Killeavy
Na Magha 1-12 V 1-04 St Eunans
Monaghan Harps V St Peters W,point
Ballymachugh Off Inniskeen
Division 5A
Craobh Rua 2-11 V 0-05 Cavan Gaels
Ballymena 1-13 V 1-03 Clonduff
Division 5B
Ardoyne Off Woodford Gaels
Latton 2-14 V 1-05 Gael Chamabhainn
i thought the north antrim teams weren't taking the Ulster hurling serious, we went to Ballycastle and they had the full team out bar one or two at the most. good competitive game only for the poor finishing in the first half by Naomh Gall the game would have been a lot closer. loughgiel beaten at the weekend are the Cranns looking to do well this year
Sure is that not the way you would want it milltown? Taking it seriously is the only way we're going to improve hurling and since the county is not doing much at the moment hurling wise then it leaves clubs with full complements of players.
Dunloy played Ballinascreen on Saturday evening in a good free flowing game (which was a feat in itself considering it was played on a "football pitch" (bumpy as f%$k). Won easy in the end as would have been expected but Ballinascreen fought to the final whistle and had some good passages aof play during the game. I'd say they definately got something from it although I don't know how their touch will ever improve having to train on that pitch.
your right skull and all the players enjoyed the game. it was just we heard that they had not many of their first team out against yourselves a week earlier. got a run out myself great pitch and the facilities are top notch
Milltown where you playing in the friendly with Cuchullianns the other week, did you's have many 1st teamers about that night, seen CJ McCourty there. A good victory for us but would like to know how it could be measured. This ulster league really does benefit teams like us and we are just greatful at all the competive games we can get.
Does anyone know if Lavey have pulled out or are still involved?
Don't think they have pulled out. I believe that Derry Co Board have fixed alot of ACL matches on Saturday evenings, so they obviously take precedent. I wouild have thought that they should be refixing these fixtures though to mid week where they can
Quote from: rolloutking on April 26, 2007, 12:32:41 AM
A valid point there Spirit. The UL is definitely a good idea in terms of raising the standard in the weaker counties but unless Ballycran, Dunloy, Cushendall play their younger/fringe players they wont get much benefit out of it. There's no point in them landing with a squad of county players togging out and giving the opposition an almighty batin'. Long term the UL may reduce the gap between Antrim, Down and the rest and make competitions somewhat more competitive.
However it needs to be taking seriously and teams entering and then pulling out i.e. Kevin Lynch's is making a farce of it. Your either in or your out and playing an UL match on Saturday and then Derry league game on Sunday should be no problem. Surely you have 25 guys who could all get a run over the weakend, saving your stronger plays for the Derry league and giving a few minors a game on the Saturday. If you don't have a panel then your a very unfit bunch of fellas who cant go two days in a row, its ten times better than any drills or pickup matches.
The gap in the standard of refereeing is also alarming. Last week we had a ref who blew instantly if he heard and contant of sticks in a tackle, while in a county league match three days later we had a ref who let everything go and in the end had a very hard but reasonably fair and free flowing game. Also we last year we had a case where a referee was in charge in one of our minor games and got a bit of stick from players and mentors. We went to Sarsfields the week after and he was the man in the middle again aand it was clear he held a grudge from the week before and gave us no protection from wild pulls and off the ball punches. The result was a riot and the match being abandoned. This was a mistake on Ulster Councils part and in the UL the same referee should not get the same team for two games, never mind twice in 7 days
I know im mad for games at this time of year and this competition needs to be given respect so it can flourish.
Btw Spirit im hearing great things about Armagh Cuchulainns new keeper. Apparently he plays a sweeping role behind the fulll back regularly takes on defenders before sending the ball the length of the field to his corner man. Supposidly he's county material and is tipped for an appearence in the Nicky Rackard. Can you shed any light on this?
I hear he's good alright. Don't know about the county standard bit, international more like it. ;)
Spirit yes, the game had at least 7 first and the rest were reserves, unfortunately there was a balls up with the pitch and to be honest we did not take the game as serious as we should have as they are a very good team strong and quick. We played two different teams a mix of both senior and seconds in the first half and the same in the second.
Good game very competitive and after playing Keady a few weeks earlier I'd say you are both about the same standard. Would be good if the likes of Keady and yourselves entered the Antrim leagues at the Division two as you would certainly compete (if not win) and this would bring you on a lot.
Anyone know any results? Thanks!
Div 1
St Galls beat Ballinascreen and Loughgeil beat Johnnies. Ardoyne won in Div 5.
Anyone got any results from the weekend?
Division 3A
Cuchullianns, Armagh 1-10 - Rasharken 0-5
A keenly fought contest resulting in a good win for us.
Anyone got a copy of the results? Taking longer and longer every week for them to be posted on ulster.gaa.ie.
Thanks
In Div 3 Tir Na Nog (Randlestown) beat Bredagh 1-13 to 2-04.
Anyone got any results from the weekend, or even point me in the direction i could find them myself. or dsnt anyone really care?haha.
Any word form the Ulster Hurling League this weekend, finding it hard to get any recent results or any League tables?
ulster.gaa.ie is a load of balls. The site has no results up for a good while. I know that Carrickmacross lost to Lurgan.
i know lavey are still in the league but i have no idea what the craic is with fixtures whatsoever...we loughguile earlier on in the yr in a good entertaining game but have basically nothing since...we were down to play the johnnies on sat but it was called off...maybe it was because of the USHC semi..i am not sure...but definitely lavey are a club who enjoy the UHL as they are usually competitive entertaining games with no history of grudges..except of course if we end up playing dunloy ;D :D...just joking...
We've played very few Ulster league games this year ourselves, and i can't see it getting any better with the Christy Ring starting shortly.
Are other clubs getting and able to fulfill their fixtures?
Any results from the weekend? Hard to get results or tables or is there any games being played at all. When are the knock outs starting?
Dunloy beat Portaferry 2-17 to 1-11 on Saturday evening . Decent enough run out for both sides
Glenariffe beat Ballycran by 3 pts on Friday night, 2 understrength teams. We are just trying to get it over and done with.
actually as someone who was far from the uhl biggest supporter initially i think it has worked quite well. certainly i wouldn't like to have been relying solely on the antrim league for matches
The fact we've been fielding without our county men in most of the matches has actually helped as a bigger panel has been more involved this year,
http://ulster.gaa.ie/ulsterSeniorHurlingLeague/2007/tables04062007.htm (http://ulster.gaa.ie/ulsterSeniorHurlingLeague/2007/tables04062007.htm)
Latest tables at 4 June.
I assume we (Dunloy) are through to the Semi-finals for Ulster League, anyone know the scheduled dates, and do the winners of 1a play runners up in 1b and vv.
Info I have in front of me says:
1/4 final: 16 June
1/2 final: 28 July (6 weeks preparation...)
Final: 8 September (6 weeks preparation...nerves will be a mess...)
I don't know if this applies to all divisions.
I assume the way it works would be first in the A division plays fourth in the B division...of whatever league.
Not sure though.
We (Cuchullianns, Armagh) beat Newry Shamrocks on Thursday night past 4-10 to 2-7. An entertaining game with lots of positive forward play. We delt well with their county men and did well up front without ours. the 1/4 finals are due for this weekend anyone got any fixtures, times or venues.
we (Dunloy) still have a game to play in the group stages, our first match of the competition was supposed to be against banagher but they had football match so was postponed, yet to e played. i don't know if that would prevent the comp moving forward but urely we're not the only club to have games yet to be played
SATURDAY 16th JUNE -
Ulster Hurling League Div 1 Quarter Finals
Dunloy V St Johns at 8.00pm at Ballymena
Ballycastle V Ballycran at 8.00pm at Pairc Lamh Dhearg
St Galls V Ballygalget at 8.00pm at Corrigan PK
Portaferry V Loughgiel at 6.30pm at Pairc Lamh Dhearg
sh**e
On the Ulster Council Website,
THURSDAY 14th JUNE -
Ulster Hurling League Div 4 Quarter Final
St Peters V Killeavey at 7.15pm at Warrenpoint
- SATURDAY 16th JUNE -
Ulster Hurling League Div 1 Quarter Final
St Galls V Ballygalget at 8.00pm at Corrigan PK
Ulster Hurling League Div 2 Quarter Finals
Slaughtniel V Carey Faughs at 8.00pm at Dunloy
Lamh Dhearg V Eoghain Ruadh at 8.00pm at Rossa Pk
Ulster Hurling League Div 3 Quarter Finals
Armoy V Newry Shamrocks at 6.30pm at Corrigan PK
Eoghan Rua V Shane O Neills at 6.30pm at Carey
Ulster Hurling League Div 4 Quarter Finals
St Endas V St Peters /Killeavey at 6.30pm at Pairc Esler
N Columcille V Monaghan Harps at 8.00pm at Tattyreagh
St Brigids C,Mills V Na Magha at 6.30pm at Dunloy
Sean Traceys V Inniskeen at 6.30pm at Keady
Please note the following games are off:
Dunloy V St Johns
Ballycastle V Ballycran
Portaferry V Loughgiel
Burt V St Pauls
Middletown V Keady
Setanta V Rasharkin
Tir Na nog V Cuchulainn
Four Masters, Donegal V Ballymena, Antrim
Quote from: milltown row on June 11, 2007, 03:15:32 PM
SATURDAY 16th JUNE -
Ulster Hurling League Div 1 Quarter Finals
Dunloy V St Johns at 8.00pm at Ballymena
Ballycastle V Ballycran at 8.00pm at Pairc Lamh Dhearg
St Galls V Ballygalget at 8.00pm at Corrigan PK
Portaferry V Loughgiel at 6.30pm at Pairc Lamh Dhearg
The Ballygalget St Galls game has been cancelled, Ballygalget are going to the Loughgeile tournament and i think there must be a silage cutting on in Milltown...
;D
Division 3 1/4 final Sunday 17th at 7pm
Rasharkin v Cuchulianns, Armagh
good man Johnny suits us as well, some boys away for us. i'm sure you would rather play us with a full team. had you no game last night?
A draw last night between ourselves and St Galls which I'd have to say we were lucky to get away with as St Galls finished the stronger.
Both teams looked well off full strength.
Scoring yet again was our problem with us having difficulty getting the balls into our forwards with the Galls deploying a corner forward as extra cover. It's not rocket science but we seemed to still play far too many balls into that area. IMO we needed to start to take long range points to draw the man out but we didn't have anyone in that area capable and hence played into St Galls hands. Karl Stewart went off injured early on, not sure why but maybe Milltown will know.
I think the replay is on wednesday week up in Belfast.
What has happened with the Ulster League, it seemd to be starved of publicity & is difficult to find out scores fixtures etc. Will it survive next year?
yes we play the extra man when we are under strength, CJ was put in to help out.
Karl should not have started off after 10 minutes. he Jarred his knee against Laois on Saturday and is doubtful.
will you be as under strength the next time?
Quote from: milltown row on July 11, 2007, 06:59:32 PM
will you be as under strength the next time?
When is next time?
There were fixtures in yesterdays Irish News. Can anyone post them?
We play the Johnnies tomorrow night in Dunloy
Div 1 Semi Final
3 Games in 5 days...no complaints
Reigning champions Loughgeile beat Portaferry in a good tight game last night in Portaferry.
Portaferry 1.12 loughgeile 1.14
Any News on the St.Galls v Ballygalget match last night? Are the semis going ahaead on Saturday?
Quote from: MadMick007 on July 26, 2007, 09:38:30 AM
Any News on the St.Galls v Ballygalget match last night? Are the semis going ahaead on Saturday?
We won by three or four points in the end.
I'm not sure whether the game is going ahead on saturday as Loughgeile are down to play Portaferry in the ACHL on sunday plus we're down to play in the Down IHC which will affect 10 of the team which played last night. Niggly injuries are building up for us.
On another issue which featured a bit on the Antrim hurling thread, the amount of slabbering that 'CJ' did to the ref last night had to be heard to be believed. He called him everything under the sun and got away with it. The ref was a Johnnies man and whilst wasn't perfect didn't deserve that amount of shite. Is young McGourty untouchable in Antrim?
Quote from: johnneycool on July 26, 2007, 01:09:48 PM
Quote from: MadMick007 on July 26, 2007, 09:38:30 AM
Any News on the St.Galls v Ballygalget match last night? Are the semis going ahaead on Saturday?
We won by three or four points in the end.
I'm not sure whether the game is going ahead on saturday as Loughgeile are down to play Portaferry in the ACHL on sunday plus we're down to play in the Down IHC which will affect 10 of the team which played last night. Niggly injuries are building up for us.
On another issue which featured a bit on the Antrim hurling thread, the amount of slabbering that 'CJ' did to the ref last night had to be heard to be believed. He called him everything under the sun and got away with it. The ref was a Johnnies man and whilst wasn't perfect didn't deserve that amount of shite. Is young McGourty untouchable in Antrim?
He does not get the slabbering from the grass....."Shaws Road". He was at it the other night against Lamh Dhearg in the Antrim Hurling Championship. Maybe they should get Gavin Bel to ref a few St Galls games and see if he still does it. I would imagine if he got sent off in an Antrim club game we would have a 3 page spread in the Irish News about how he has "been cheated" and was withdrawing his services from the county panel.
yes CJ does a bit of mouthing but once Gerard booked him that was that.
i'm all for no talking back to the referee, but some decisions (not last night) but certainly against Lamhs the refereeing was terrible, it can be hard to hold back.
Johnneycool ye must be tired of coming up to Belfast? Loughgiel will bring down a strong squad as usual, we played their 'reserve' team a few weeks ago. they had county men on the team and ex county men on the team unreal
Milltown have you ever noticed how teams up here react to a ref's decision compared to down south? They just get on with it no matter how bad the decision/hard the challenge. The problem up here is when there is a hard man/ball/everybody tackle you are half expecting the supporters to be in over the fence. As a manager once told us he has never seen a ref change his mind after giving a decision.
Quote from: milltown row on July 26, 2007, 03:49:22 PM
yes CJ does a bit of mouthing but once Gerard booked him that was that.
He got booked in the first 5 minutes but later on in the second half he called gerard a 'f**king w**ker' more or less to his face, Gerard pointed to him and verbally warned him, even your fullback told him to shut up, but I don't think he can help himself.
Now I've questioned manys a referee's decision in my time but once you get into personal insults, the referee's and county boards have to take action or we'll have no referee's at all.
As for Loughgeile they have a very strong panel of 25 or so hurlers or a similar ability/style, good senior hurlers but lacking in that something come championship. The UHL is all well and good but we're not taking it too seriously and those are the kind of games Loughgeile can put up a big score on you if you're not going into them at 100 miles an hour. We wouldn't be confident of getting any thing out of the game but once you take the field you always want to win.
Consistency between the referees's is the key. If a referee is going to send a man off for verbal abuse then the next referee has to, not just play on, book then tick him.
Zero tolerance for all players and no special favours for county 'stars' we played Lamhs last week in championship, niggly the whole way through the game, it was the referee's first senior championship match, not sure if he realised the bad blood between the 2 teams but the slabbering going on was bad. But Micko got himself sent off for abusing the linesman (Ray Matthews) to be fair and I was standing beside him he give Micko two free ones and then Micko kept on at him, so Ray called the referee over and Micko was off and his team lost.
Then you have our game the other night and CJ should have walked for the abuse he gave Gerard. No consistency
The rule is clear. Abuse of ref - straight red. Any ref who doesn't apply the rule is doing nobody any favours.
Category II
Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman, or Sideline Official; Striking or attempting to strike with hurley (minimal force); Kicking or attempting to kick (minimal force); Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand or knee; Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent; Spitting at an opponent; Contributing to a melee
Ulster Hurling League Q Final Newry Shamrocks 2-16 Armoy 0-6
Big win for Shamrocks who improved dramatically from their dire performance in the IHC against Ballycran on Sunday. Great to get a run out as soon after that match and get it out of the system. Really good performance all over the field with Armoy getting a player sent off at the end for kicking one of the Newry lads in the head while he lay on the ground.
Well done Newry. Armoy would be handy enough. Who is left in that Division?
Not sure Lecale - I know we play Setenta in the semi final. I think Eoghain Rua (Coleraine) are in the other semi and not sure who else, could be Tir na nOg.
Randlestown (are they Tir na Og) beat us (cuchulainns) by a point about 4 weeks ago, cant see the rush back then but we played at their home pitch on a festival weekend, they must have had 300 at the game with us being told to go back to Portydown-wtf??? because a wee Armagh team was able to ruff them up a bit.
But Pull Hard having played yous early this year I think at a neutral venue id fancy newry for the final
Quote from: Lecale2 on August 01, 2007, 02:15:02 PM
Well done Newry. Armoy would be handy enough. Who is left in that Division?
You obviously have not seen armoy for a couple of years Lecale2
Quote from: slow corner back on August 04, 2007, 06:37:49 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on August 01, 2007, 02:15:02 PM
Well done Newry. Armoy would be handy enough. Who is left in that Division?
You obviously have not seen armoy for a couple of years Lecale2
They beat us by 10 pts in the Ulster league back in April. Maybe we're just crap!
Spirit - why did you play them at home and not at a neutral venue? Seems a bit daft as I fancied you guys to give that league a rattle as I was impressed the night we played you up in Armagh (although we were poor but you can only play as well as you're allowed). I thought some of your passing etc that night was first class and certainly didn't expect us to beat the team that topped that section while you guys lost out.
No doubt the venue played a part - Armoy tried to get us to do the same and play up there in a "festival" game but we refused. Tir na Og are in the other side of the draw so its
Tir na nOg V Eoghain Ruadh (coleraine)
Newry Shamrocks V Setenta
When does the Armagh hurling championship start? If you are looking a challenge I'll give Ciaran a ring and sort something.
Division 2 semi final Slaughtneil 1-27 Lamh Dhearg 5-13. Great victory for Slaughtneil after extra time. Can anyone shed any light on the other side of the draw Burt/ St Pauls V Middletown?
Was talking to one of of club men this morning and he tells me the Burt/St Pauls semi final is on Thursday night at our pitch Trebor.
Quote from: treborstemme on August 13, 2007, 11:09:20 PM
Division 2 semi final Slaughtneil 1-27 Lamh Dhearg 5-13. Great victory for Slaughtneil after extra time. Can anyone shed any light on the other side of the draw Burt/ St Pauls V Middletown?
It was 1-26 to 5-11, just to be picky
Dunloy beat Ballycastle 3-10 to 1-9 in wintery conditions last night. The game was alot closer in fairness and it would also be fair to say that both teams didn't set the world alight performance wise.
Throw in for match was around 6:15pm and it was pretty dark over head by the end of the game. Don't know how the match with ourselves and St Galls could be played if conditions are the same on wednesday evening when the throw in will be 7:15 at the earliest?
Who do you play in the final Skull?
Dunloy play the winners of Loughgiel and Ballygalget in the final i think, anyone know when this game is fixed for
From what I have heard the Div 4 final is scheduled for Casement - maybe a double header with the Div 1 final??
Division 1
Semi Final
Ballygalget V Loughgiel - 25th August at 6.30pm (Venue TBC)
Final
Dunloy v Ballygalget/ Loughgiel - 8th September
Division 2
Quarter Final
Burt V St Pauls - Thursday 16th August at Slaughtneil (7.00pm)
Semi Finals
Slaughtniel V Lamh Dhearg - 12th August at Randalstown (6.00pm)
Burt V Middletown - 25th August at 5.00pm (Venue TBC)
Final
Slaughtniel/Lamh Dhearg V Burt/Middletown - 8th September
Division 3
Semi Final
Newry Shamrocks V Setanta - 25th August at Tattyreagh (5.00pm)
Final
Newry/Setanta V Tir Na nOg - 8th September
Division 4
Final
St Endas V St Brigids C,Mills - 8th September
Division 5
Final
Four Masters V Ballymena - 25th August @ Tattyreagh (6.30pm)
the last group game of the SHC is on 9th september.
Quote from: maxpower on August 22, 2007, 11:43:41 AM
the last group game of the SHC is on 9th september.
if it ends up Dunloy - Loughgeil UHL final, they should play for both as the SHC match will mean nothing.
not if one of the teams slip up against ourselves timber ::)
no the game should be and will be played at Casement and taken seriously otherwise it will end up on the scrap heap. we got 6/7 games from it and if we hadn't then we would have had not too many hurling games this year.
if the ulster hurling league was played in the winter months it would better than arranging challenge games and there would be no excuse for not playing them. there has been more rain this summer than the winter months, pitches are better than ten years ago and not too many games have been called of this year.
Quote from: milltown row on August 22, 2007, 02:22:24 PM
not if one of the teams slip up against ourselves timber ::)
no the game should be and will be played at Casement and taken seriously otherwise it will end up on the scrap heap. we got 6/7 games from it and if we hadn't then we would have had not too many hurling games this year.
if the ulster hurling league was played in the winter months it would better than arranging challenge games and there would be no excuse for not playing them. there has been more rain this summer than the winter months, pitches are better than ten years ago and not too many games have been called of this year.
Milltown i know its old ground but the problem this year was Ulster League on a Saturday evening and All County matches on the Sunday.
so you have it in the winter months this wont affect your county hurlers as none of them played anyway. it's a competition to bring on fringe players and so.
timetabling will make it a good comp.
Can someone post the results from the semi finals later? I'll head out to Hannahstown if I get a chance later.
Loughgiel beat ballygalget by a couple of points. Dont know actual score. Fellow mcquillan gael who lives in city was at it and said it was a fiery enough encounter with both teams at full strenghth (as far as he thinks) - Winker watson was the difference between two teams. Im meeting him (mcquillan gael) in Boyd tomorrow wevening to kick start the lamas fair, so will get a full run down
I'd say winker could kick start the auld lamas fair alright! I didn't bet over but I thought this would be a full blooded encounter with both teams getting ready for the championship.
Ulster Club Hurling League Finals
- Saturday 15th September -
Extra Time if necessary in all games
Division 4 Final
St Endas (Antrim) v St Brigids (Antrim) at Casement Park (3.30pm)
Referee: Declan Magee (Down)
Division 1 Final
Dunloy (Antrim) v Loughgiel (Antrim) at Casement Park (5.00pm)
Referee: Gerard Devlin (Armagh)
Division 3 Final
Setanta (Donegal) v Tir na nOg (Antrim) at Celtic Park, Derry (3.30pm)
Referee: Eamon Hasson (Derry)
Division 2 Final
Slaughtneil (Derry) v Burt (Donegal) at Celtic Park, Derry (5.00pm)
Referee: Tommy McIntyre (Antrim)
FYI Dunloy will not be there
I know for a fact that the organizer of this competition knew well in advance that Dunloy would be unable to fulfill this fixture on this date due to prior engagement which they committed to well over a month ago, so he's not doing much for the credibility of his own competition if he goes ahead and announces the fixture regardless. Also taking into consideration that both Dunloy and loughguile are preparing for the semi final of the championship (as are the biddies), this is not a game both clubs would want just at the moment. With floodlights in both ballycastle and casement there is no excuse for fixing these games on this date.
Take a bow :-[
Ulster League should have been wrapped up a couple of months ago, if it is going to drag on & conflict with senior championship teams will not enter it next year.
I can't see the A final of this being played until both Dunloy and Loughgiel are finished with their championships, its a pity it over ran because it was a decent competition, and had the final been played prior to the Antrim championships begining then i'm sure there would have been plenty of bite
Quote from: Lecale2 on September 11, 2007, 10:14:50 AM
Ulster Club Hurling League Finals
- Saturday 15th September -
Extra Time if necessary in all games
Division 4 Final
St Endas (Antrim) v St Brigids (Antrim) at Casement Park (3.30pm)
Referee: Declan Magee (Down)
Division 1 Final
Dunloy (Antrim) v Loughgiel (Antrim) at Casement Park (5.00pm)
Referee: Gerard Devlin (Armagh)
Division 3 Final
Setanta (Donegal) v Tir na nOg (Antrim) at Celtic Park, Derry (3.30pm)
Referee: Eamon Hasson (Derry)
Division 2 Final
Slaughtneil (Derry) v Burt (Donegal) at Celtic Park, Derry (5.00pm)
Referee: Tommy McIntyre (Antrim)
Burt must be going well to get to the div 2 final. I may be wrong but it looks a lot stronger standard than I would normally associate with Donegal hurling. If Burt win the Donegal title do they compete in the junior or intermediate ulster championship?
JUnior.
Skull
Not sure where I stand on this to be honest but I am not sure how Dunloy pulling out of the competition (or not playing the final) stands with your praise of it earlier in the year. You have been able to blood new players, giving decent competitive games to them that otherwise they wouldn't have had. A big gripe of yours and everyone's has been games being postponed/not played/called off because of county commitments. Apart from a few minor things the Ulster league APPEARS to have run smoothly enough this year.
Now the finals have been fixed for early Sept for a while now...admittedly I think they were down for 8th Sept but there was always a chance (and arguably inevitable) that they would slide by a week.
Planning things when living in this county are always tough but not sure what sort of signal is sends out the final not being played.
All that said I understand that a further match against Loughgeil is probably the last thing either of you want/need (especially now you have the psychological edge).
Quote from: Glensman on September 11, 2007, 05:18:57 PM
Skull
Not sure where I stand on this to be honest but I am not sure how Dunloy pulling out of the competition (or not playing the final) stands with your praise of it earlier in the year. You have been able to blood new players, giving decent competitive games to them that otherwise they wouldn't have had. A big gripe of yours and everyone's has been games being postponed/not played/called off because of county commitments. Apart from a few minor things the Ulster league APPEARS to have run smoothly enough this year.
Now the finals have been fixed for early Sept for a while now...admittedly I think they were down for 8th Sept but there was always a chance (and arguably inevitable) that they would slide by a week.
Planning things when living in this county are always tough but not sure what sort of signal is sends out the final not being played.
All that said I understand that a further match against Loughgeil is probably the last thing either of you want/need (especially now you have the psychological edge).
Who mentioned pulling out of the competition? Its not Dunloys fault that FQ fixed the finals for this date whilst knowing full well that they couldn't fulfill the fixture. As someone who is paid to look after this competition he should be doing a bit more to protect the integrity of it. Shoe horning this low key competition in (if were being honest but hopefully that will change in time) at the business end of the season is a crazy thing for FQ to do. Dunloy have definitely benefited from the ulster league this year but championship is championship. FQ should have more sense and tried to get the clubs to agree a date in Oct under floodlights where the competition could have stood alone and got decent exposure
Don't really know why your jumping on my back glensman when your last line shows that in some way you can understand the predicament :-\. I'm sure loughgiel feel the exact same way about this final as Dunloy BTW
Not really jumping on your back Skull to be honest and set myself out as saying I wasn't really sure where I stood on it.
I suppose it was the "FYI Dunloy will not be there" that made me respond!!
Maybe an "FYI Dunloy will be doing everything within their power to get the date moved and have good cause to do so as the Ulster League organisers knew we had a prior engagement that was booked a month ago" rather than a blanket statement that you wouldn't be there.
Had visions of the bodies lining out at Casement with no sign of Dunloy running out of the tunnel...alot of red diesel wasted for them there.
I completely agree that Championship is Championship. Its funny how an Ulster League final, which should arguably be something that your look forward to, becomes a burden in Championship time. It does for a few clubs.
But I also see the benefit that the Ulster League providing regular games during the early months of the year has had and see it as a good thing.
Anyhow, hope you get the best out of your prior engagement.
Fair enough glens....lost in translation eh? Lets hope customs & excise don't follow the ulster league threads on the internet...as a boy once said it's easier to go off heroin ;)
OK, altho not perfect or yet completed this season, do you think the league is a good idea, did your clubs respond positively to it.Did youse enjoy playin teams u wouldnt normally play. i kno there are improvements needed but does everyone think it should be at least continued next season
Quote from: SuperHans on September 14, 2007, 12:58:05 PM
OK, altho not perfect or yet completed this season, do you think the league is a good idea, did your clubs respond positively to it.Did youse enjoy playin teams u wouldnt normally play. i kno there are improvements needed but does everyone think it should be at least continued next season
Yes on the proviso that it is played early in the season (April-July)
Yes
Ish...though for us there wasn't too many teams that we wouldn't play
Yes
On improvements .....Derry county board buying into the UHL and giving hurling some breathing space would be a huge help
the game needs to be played before the start of the hurling leagues, i.e April. the Antrim hurling leagues need to be a two way league, ten teams.
football is popular because they play a two way league for all divisions they nearly have a game every week. most clubs now have decent pitches or two pitches gone are the days where games were called off because of the weather.
Ulster hurling could be started in mid feb through to April, county players never really played in it anyway so they wont be missed, it's better than turning up for training on a Sunday morning and it gives everybody match sharpness for the league ahead. playing during the season (proper) when boys are playing football league hurling, exams and holidays is daft. i'm all for playing the ulster hurling league but it needs to be better fixtured in the year
Well done to the Ulster Council......a 1 line message on your website giving 24 hours notice that some of the UHL finals were being postponed! A phone call to one of the participating clubs in particular might have been better. Next year, don't even bother if this is the way you're going to run your affairs.
Whenever you consider that people are being paid to administrate this competition, it is quite unbelievable
Slaughtneil won Div 2 final
Setanta won Div 3 final
Quote from: theskull1 on September 17, 2007, 09:35:51 AM
Whenever you consider that people are being paid to administrate this competition, it is quite unbelievable
This is the point exactly, administered by paid officials, not volunteers as we are used to. These matches were called off at the last minute with only one club that I am aware of notified directly, the rest had to read it in the Irish News!!! Players who cancelled plans for a trip to France lost money for nothing.
It would seem that FQ only deems certain people worthy of his direct communication despite numerous attempts being made to contact him. What an ambassador for hurling? I will be encouraging our comittee to forward a letter of complaint to the UC. If he was a volunteer for this position then his actions would be regretable, as it stands they are unforgiveable
Quote from: treborstemme on September 17, 2007, 10:30:40 PM
Slaughtneil won Div 2 final
Setanta won Div 3 final
Are Setanta from Donegal? Winning Div 3 allied to Burt getting to the Div2 final is pretty respectable for Donegal hurling
When you see their performances in the Ulster League it's hard to justify them play in the Junior Championship. :-\
Div 4 Final, St.Endas Glengormley v St.Brigids Cloughmills was played at the Mid Ulster Sports Arena on Saturday. Old rivalries were renewed but the Endas ran out convincing winners 3-7 to 0-9. A game of 2 halves due to the weather but the biddies couldn't create a goal chance.
Old rivalries renewed alright and generally apart from the St Endas No. 10 who was completely nuts it was a tough competitive game.
Was certainly a game of 2 halves...the Biddies should have tried for a couple more goals in the first half but the wind certainly picked up in the second and Crossey started to dominate. He is a great player.
On another note the referee was one of the worst I have seen in a long time - for both teams. I am not sure who he is.
Congrats to St Endas.
speedy (pat mc caffrey) was the referee,
QuoteWhen you see their performances in the Ulster League it's hard to justify them play in the Junior Championship.
True. We got Burt in the first round of the Ulster Junior last year. There is Donegal Junior Championship but its the senior winners that go into the Ulster Junior.
This is on the Ulster Web site, anybody know if its on for sure as I wouldn't mind going to it. A lot of people thought it wasn't on Dunloy's radar at the minute.
SportTracker Ulster Senior Hurling League Division 1 Final (2.00pm)
Extra Time if required
Dunloy (Antrim) v Loughgiel (Antrim) at Cloughmills Ref: Ray Mathews (Antrim)
Sunday 16th December 2.oopm Dunloy v L'giel
Yes....I believe the match is on
At least the weather forecast gives it to be dry at the weekend.
Dunloy 2-13 Loughgeil 1-7 I think was the final scoreline.
Comfortable enough win for Dunloy. To be expected as they have started back training but they looked sharp enough and good sign that there were quiet a few regulars on the bench. Thought Darren Quinn looked sharp and Paudie Shivers turning into a good hurler.
Winker sent off (I would have bet my house on it if I had one). Two yellows, could have been about 7 but Ray Matthews ussed a bit of licence to give Loughgeil a chance. His licence was arguably within the spirit of what the game should have been and the game largely was but it could have seen someone get a leg broke.
On another note - hope to see more championship matches in Cloughmills. Super pitch generally and the condition it was in at this time of year was great.
Any word on whether the League is going to be run this year again, havent heard anything as of yet. surely there would be an announcement for fixtures etc..
Frankie Quinn sent out an E Mail asking for entries so I'm sure it will continue.