All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021

Started by TheGreatest, May 13, 2021, 11:54:54 AM

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JoG2

Quote from: TheGreatest on May 17, 2021, 01:43:52 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 15, 2021, 01:41:46 AM
They have clifford and sean o se who are capable of beating the Dublin defence , no other county have forwards next to near that type of talent and that's why they could come close . Dublin v kerry final is odds on imo . Should be a cracker too. Just a shame it will be a near enough empty croke park again . It's a nothing occasion tbh without a packed croke park,  hard to get excited about it in that sense .

Both a joy to watch, so young too, will win a few IMO

A few All Stars maybe. Kerry will be under pressure to win Munster, but they're under as much pressure to win the All Ireland as Derry are. Same for every other county.

Armagh18

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 17, 2021, 10:23:52 PM
Quote from: macker15 on May 17, 2021, 10:12:46 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 17, 2021, 09:30:10 PM
zero chance of Dublin losing this year

they have 30 players better than almost every other team.
and better conditioned too.

Kerry have better forwards than the dubs.

They don't. Only David Clifford would be a starter among Dublins six best forwards.
And SO'S.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Armagh18 on May 19, 2021, 11:57:35 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 17, 2021, 10:23:52 PM
Quote from: macker15 on May 17, 2021, 10:12:46 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 17, 2021, 09:30:10 PM
zero chance of Dublin losing this year

they have 30 players better than almost every other team.
and better conditioned too.

Kerry have better forwards than the dubs.

They don't. Only David Clifford would be a starter among Dublins six best forwards.
And SO'S.

Instead of who?

With Paul Mannion away Dublins strongest starting 6 forwards

Niall Scully, Con O'Callaghan, Brian Howard
Cormac Costello Dean Rock, Ciaran Kilkenny.

They already have good free takers in Costello, Rock.

seafoid

Pressure on Kerry assumes there is a competition.  There isn't.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

From the Bunker

Quote from: JoG2 on May 19, 2021, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on May 17, 2021, 01:43:52 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 15, 2021, 01:41:46 AM
They have clifford and sean o se who are capable of beating the Dublin defence , no other county have forwards next to near that type of talent and that's why they could come close . Dublin v kerry final is odds on imo . Should be a cracker too. Just a shame it will be a near enough empty croke park again . It's a nothing occasion tbh without a packed croke park,  hard to get excited about it in that sense .


Both a joy to watch, so young too, will win a few IMO

A few All Stars maybe. Kerry will be under pressure to win Munster, but they're under as much pressure to win the All Ireland as Derry are. Same for every other county.

Gas, posters putting faith in a Kerry team who couldn't beat a Cork team who couldn't beat a Tipperary team.
Kerry are not under pressure to win Munster, they are expected to win Munster. There is huge pressure on them to topple Dublin. Their standing as a football county depends on it. Derry have no such standing to worry about!

TheGreatest

Quote from: JoG2 on May 19, 2021, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on May 17, 2021, 01:43:52 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 15, 2021, 01:41:46 AM
They have clifford and sean o se who are capable of beating the Dublin defence , no other county have forwards next to near that type of talent and that's why they could come close . Dublin v kerry final is odds on imo . Should be a cracker too. Just a shame it will be a near enough empty croke park again . It's a nothing occasion tbh without a packed croke park,  hard to get excited about it in that sense .

Both a joy to watch, so young too, will win a few IMO

A few All Stars maybe. Kerry will be under pressure to win Munster, but they're under as much pressure to win the All Ireland as Derry are. Same for every other county.

Are you saying there is no pressure on Kerry to win the All Ireland, thats not accurate, they expect big things from this current crop and management, talking to some of animals down there, they are saying this is their year to win it. . .

imtommygunn

Dublin have it sewn up so anyone with any sense knows that.

Lar Naparka

Quote from: TheGreatest on May 20, 2021, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 19, 2021, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on May 17, 2021, 01:43:52 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 15, 2021, 01:41:46 AM
They have clifford and sean o se who are capable of beating the Dublin defence , no other county have forwards next to near that type of talent and that's why they could come close . Dublin v kerry final is odds on imo . Should be a cracker too. Just a shame it will be a near enough empty croke park again . It's a nothing occasion tbh without a packed croke park,  hard to get excited about it in that sense .

Both a joy to watch, so young too, will win a few IMO

A few All Stars maybe. Kerry will be under pressure to win Munster, but they're under as much pressure to win the All Ireland as Derry are. Same for every other county.

Are you saying there is no pressure on Kerry to win the All Ireland, thats not accurate, they expect big things from this current crop and management, talking to some of animals down there, they are saying this is their year to win it. . .
Yerra, musha, they are saying that every year.  ;D
They won easy enough against a piss poor Galway side and the likes of Brolly are talking up their chances of going the whole way this year. Sure, Clifford is class but Dublin took care of him in the replay game in 2019 and did the same for Ó Se.
Kerry would need at least another thirteen like the pair of them to stand a chance.
Having said that, I won't expect either manager to show his hand on Sunday. I can't  see either side going flat out.
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

Sionnach

Quote from: Lar Naparka on May 20, 2021, 11:51:01 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on May 20, 2021, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 19, 2021, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on May 17, 2021, 01:43:52 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 15, 2021, 01:41:46 AM
They have clifford and sean o se who are capable of beating the Dublin defence , no other county have forwards next to near that type of talent and that's why they could come close . Dublin v kerry final is odds on imo . Should be a cracker too. Just a shame it will be a near enough empty croke park again . It's a nothing occasion tbh without a packed croke park,  hard to get excited about it in that sense .

Both a joy to watch, so young too, will win a few IMO

A few All Stars maybe. Kerry will be under pressure to win Munster, but they're under as much pressure to win the All Ireland as Derry are. Same for every other county.

Are you saying there is no pressure on Kerry to win the All Ireland, thats not accurate, they expect big things from this current crop and management, talking to some of animals down there, they are saying this is their year to win it. . .
Yerra, musha, they are saying that every year.  ;D
They won easy enough against a piss poor Galway side and the likes of Brolly are talking up their chances of going the whole way this year. Sure, Clifford is class but Dublin took care of him in the replay game in 2019 and did the same for Ó Se.
Kerry would need at least another thirteen like the pair of them to stand a chance.
Having said that, I won't expect either manager to show his hand on Sunday. I can't  see either side going flat out.

A glance at the stats shows Clifford scored 5 points in that final replay, 4 from play.  I would say that's good going for any player in an All-Ireland final, let alone a 20-year-old in hi second season at senior level.  O'Shea also got 5 points, 2 of them from play.

Agree the weekend's game will mean little when it comes to serious business in the championship - Galway's performance was one of the worst seen in a div 1 game in recent years.

yellowcard

Dublin will be very happy with Kerry's massacre of Galway last weekend. It was the first big game of the season and generated plenty of attention and now the media are over hyping this Kerry side.

They proved that they have some top quality forwards but we knew that already. What we don't know is whether they have improved sufficiently from numbers 1-9. There are still big question marks which,  given the nature of the season, will probably go unanswered until an AI SF showdown with probably Donegal. There are also doubts about their mental fortitude in tight games from which they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in the last 2 years.

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: Sionnach on May 20, 2021, 10:27:03 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on May 20, 2021, 11:51:01 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on May 20, 2021, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 19, 2021, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on May 17, 2021, 01:43:52 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 15, 2021, 01:41:46 AM
They have clifford and sean o se who are capable of beating the Dublin defence , no other county have forwards next to near that type of talent and that's why they could come close . Dublin v kerry final is odds on imo . Should be a cracker too. Just a shame it will be a near enough empty croke park again . It's a nothing occasion tbh without a packed croke park,  hard to get excited about it in that sense .

Both a joy to watch, so young too, will win a few IMO

A few All Stars maybe. Kerry will be under pressure to win Munster, but they're under as much pressure to win the All Ireland as Derry are. Same for every other county.

Are you saying there is no pressure on Kerry to win the All Ireland, thats not accurate, they expect big things from this current crop and management, talking to some of animals down there, they are saying this is their year to win it. . .
Yerra, musha, they are saying that every year.  ;D
They won easy enough against a piss poor Galway side and the likes of Brolly are talking up their chances of going the whole way this year. Sure, Clifford is class but Dublin took care of him in the replay game in 2019 and did the same for Ó Se.
Kerry would need at least another thirteen like the pair of them to stand a chance.
Having said that, I won't expect either manager to show his hand on Sunday. I can't  see either side going flat out.

A glance at the stats shows Clifford scored 5 points in that final replay, 4 from play.  I would say that's good going for any player in an All-Ireland final, let alone a 20-year-old in hi second season at senior level.  O'Shea also got 5 points, 2 of them from play.

Agree the weekend's game will mean little when it comes to serious business in the championship - Galway's performance was one of the worst seen in a div 1 game in recent years.
Watch Galway look like AI contenders this weekend

Lar Naparka

Quote from: Sionnach on May 20, 2021, 10:27:03 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on May 20, 2021, 11:51:01 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on May 20, 2021, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 19, 2021, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on May 17, 2021, 01:43:52 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 15, 2021, 01:41:46 AM
They have clifford and sean o se who are capable of beating the Dublin defence , no other county have forwards next to near that type of talent and that's why they could come close . Dublin v kerry final is odds on imo . Should be a cracker too. Just a shame it will be a near enough empty croke park again . It's a nothing occasion tbh without a packed croke park,  hard to get excited about it in that sense .

Both a joy to watch, so young too, will win a few IMO

A few All Stars maybe. Kerry will be under pressure to win Munster, but they're under as much pressure to win the All Ireland as Derry are. Same for every other county.

Are you saying there is no pressure on Kerry to win the All Ireland, thats not accurate, they expect big things from this current crop and management, talking to some of animals down there, they are saying this is their year to win it. . .
Yerra, musha, they are saying that every year.  ;D
They won easy enough against a piss poor Galway side and the likes of Brolly are talking up their chances of going the whole way this year. Sure, Clifford is class but Dublin took care of him in the replay game in 2019 and did the same for Ó Se.
Kerry would need at least another thirteen like the pair of them to stand a chance.
Having said that, I won't expect either manager to show his hand on Sunday. I can't  see either side going flat out.

A glance at the stats shows Clifford scored 5 points in that final replay, 4 from play. I would say that's good going for any player in an All-Ireland final, let alone a 20-year-old in hi second season at senior level.  O'Shea also got 5 points, 2 of them from play.

Agree the weekend's game will mean little when it comes to serious business in the championship - Galway's performance was one of the worst seen in a div 1 game in recent years.
True, but he waqs held scoreless in the last 15 minutes or so when Dublin put on the pressure and looked out on his feet at the final whistle. Dublin's level of aerobic fitness was far superior to kerry's.
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Armagh18

Quote from: yellowcard on May 20, 2021, 10:44:36 PM
Dublin will be very happy with Kerry's massacre of Galway last weekend. It was the first big game of the season and generated plenty of attention and now the media are over hyping this Kerry side.

They proved that they have some top quality forwards but we knew that already. What we don't know is whether they have improved sufficiently from numbers 1-9. There are still big question marks which,  given the nature of the season, will probably go unanswered until an AI SF showdown with probably Donegal. There are also doubts about their mental fortitude in tight games from which they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in the last 2 years.
People love this narrative that Kerry have no defenders. Con O'Callaghan and Mannion barely got a kick in the drawn final in 2019!

JoG2

Quote from: TheGreatest on May 20, 2021, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 19, 2021, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on May 17, 2021, 01:43:52 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 15, 2021, 01:41:46 AM
They have clifford and sean o se who are capable of beating the Dublin defence , no other county have forwards next to near that type of talent and that's why they could come close . Dublin v kerry final is odds on imo . Should be a cracker too. Just a shame it will be a near enough empty croke park again . It's a nothing occasion tbh without a packed croke park,  hard to get excited about it in that sense .

Both a joy to watch, so young too, will win a few IMO

A few All Stars maybe. Kerry will be under pressure to win Munster, but they're under as much pressure to win the All Ireland as Derry are. Same for every other county.

Are you saying there is no pressure on Kerry to win the All Ireland, thats not accurate, they expect big things from this current crop and management, talking to some of animals down there, they are saying this is their year to win it. . .

Yes, that's what I'm saying. A few years ago there would be pressure on Kerry but not now, well no real pressure imo. Such is Dublin's dominance atm, is anyone tipping anyone else to win the All Ireland this year? So why would there be pressure on Kerry?

Angelo

Quote from: JoG2 on May 21, 2021, 01:34:55 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on May 20, 2021, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 19, 2021, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on May 17, 2021, 01:43:52 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 15, 2021, 01:41:46 AM
They have clifford and sean o se who are capable of beating the Dublin defence , no other county have forwards next to near that type of talent and that's why they could come close . Dublin v kerry final is odds on imo . Should be a cracker too. Just a shame it will be a near enough empty croke park again . It's a nothing occasion tbh without a packed croke park,  hard to get excited about it in that sense .

Both a joy to watch, so young too, will win a few IMO

A few All Stars maybe. Kerry will be under pressure to win Munster, but they're under as much pressure to win the All Ireland as Derry are. Same for every other county.

Are you saying there is no pressure on Kerry to win the All Ireland, thats not accurate, they expect big things from this current crop and management, talking to some of animals down there, they are saying this is their year to win it. . .

Yes, that's what I'm saying. A few years ago there would be pressure on Kerry but not now, well no real pressure imo. Such is Dublin's dominance atm, is anyone tipping anyone else to win the All Ireland this year? So why would there be pressure on Kerry?

Because Kerry demand All Irelands, probably have the best footballer in the country and huge success at minors in recent year.

Obviously Dublin will be favourites but the Kerry public is very demanding. Hard to see Keane surviving unless they give Dublin a close run in Championship at the worst.
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