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Title: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: joemamas on June 09, 2021, 03:34:07 PM
With the 2021 Championship about to get underway in both codes, wanted to open the discussion about potential attendances. As of now the “powers to be “ are saying that All-Ireland at the end of August may have 25k in attendance.

Don’t really want to turn this blog into a pissing contest about shabby vaccine rollout, which looks like it is as much an EU issue as much as an Ireland issue.
However, can somebody explain, that as it stands now, you will be able to go to Castlebar on July 24th, (assuming Mayo are in it) and be able to watch the game in a hotel, restaurant or a pub while having a pint, but you may not be able walk up the town and watch the Connaught final in an outdoor stadium, even though you have been vaccinated.

Has anybody questioned the GAA hierarchy in Croke park, the civil servants/ Govt who are deciding on attendance policies, and more importantly what science are they basing their allowed attendance on.

Not sure of % attendance of UK events.
Current examples of attendances in US. Btw, no masks whatsoever required at in bars and restaurants.
There were 135k at the Indianapolis 500 two weeks ago. Outdoor event.
NBA indoor attendance as of this week.
https://www.sportstravelmagazine.com/which-nba-teams-allow-fans-this-season-covid/

Back to Ireland. Just got this info on line.
As of a few days ago, there were three million vaccines administered, (2MM first doses)one could safely assume that in six weeks’ time there will be at least another million plus vaccinated.
Most experts agree .It is pretty much impossible to get the virus if you are vaccinated and in an outdoor environment.

 A little more analysis,
Population of Ireland is 5MM
Excluding 1MM under age of 14= 4MM
Right now 2MM have gotten one dose. If in six weeks another Million get a first shot, that would bring total to at least 3MM.
4MM divided by 3MM is = to 75% of population over 14 that will have received one dose.

All puzzling to say the least. Hoping common sense will prevail and let folks who are vaccinated and want to attend games to do so. I have no problem going onto a GAA website and providing proof of same and wearing a mask if that is required also.

Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: armaghniac on June 09, 2021, 03:42:40 PM
There is a case for people in big stadia, there should be no TV games allowed in pubs. They have it arseways.
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Rossfan on June 09, 2021, 05:38:18 PM
Am I right in saying currently 500 in 6 Cos and 200 here for Inter County?.
Pilot games here in rugbyball and soccerball seems to be 10% of capacity.
I'd hope, for selfish reasons that would rise to 20 or 25% for Ros/Galway game on 4th July.
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: larryin89 on June 09, 2021, 11:21:22 PM
Could we not have provincial finals in croke park to accommodate more supporters ?
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Armagh18 on June 10, 2021, 08:15:40 AM
There is a case for people in big stadia, there should be no TV games allowed in pubs. They have it arseways.
Are you joking? No games in pubs?
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: armaghniac on June 10, 2021, 11:55:27 AM
There is a case for people in big stadia, there should be no TV games allowed in pubs. They have it arseways.
Are you joking? No games in pubs?

No, I am not joking.
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Armagh18 on June 10, 2021, 12:20:15 PM
There is a case for people in big stadia, there should be no TV games allowed in pubs. They have it arseways.
Are you joking? No games in pubs?

No, I am not joking.
Aw here...
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 10, 2021, 02:29:51 PM
There is a case for people in big stadia, there should be no TV games allowed in pubs. They have it arseways.
Are you joking? No games in pubs?

He has a strong point. Packed pubs watching a match is far more likely to spread the virus than outdoors in a 20k plus stadium.
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Rossfan on June 10, 2021, 02:43:59 PM
Don't disagree Cunny but can't see the GAA pulling the plug on live coverage.
Can't see the Government closing pubs again unless there's major outbreaks of Covid.
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 10, 2021, 02:49:18 PM
Don't disagree Cunny but can't see the GAA pulling the plug on live coverage.
Can't see the Government closing pubs again unless there's major outbreaks of Covid.

Which as Armaghniac points outs they have things arseways
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Rossfan on June 10, 2021, 08:03:35 PM
Am I reading it right that there will be no limits to outdoor gatherings in the North from 21st June? ( other than capacity of venue)
Does that include sports fixtures?
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: joemamas on June 21, 2021, 06:49:10 PM
With the 2021 Championship about to get underway in both codes, wanted to open the discussion about potential attendances. As of now the “powers to be “ are saying that All-Ireland at the end of August may have 25k in attendance.

Don’t really want to turn this blog into a pissing contest about shabby vaccine rollout, which looks like it is as much an EU issue as much as an Ireland issue.
However, can somebody explain, that as it stands now, you will be able to go to Castlebar on July 24th, (assuming Mayo are in it) and be able to watch the game in a hotel, restaurant or a pub while having a pint, but you may not be able walk up the town and watch the Connaught final in an outdoor stadium, even though you have been vaccinated.

Has anybody questioned the GAA hierarchy in Croke park, the civil servants/ Govt who are deciding on attendance policies, and more importantly what science are they basing their allowed attendance on.

Not sure of % attendance of UK events.
Current examples of attendances in US. Btw, no masks whatsoever required at in bars and restaurants.
There were 135k at the Indianapolis 500 two weeks ago. Outdoor event.
NBA indoor attendance as of this week.
https://www.sportstravelmagazine.com/which-nba-teams-allow-fans-this-season-covid/

Back to Ireland. Just got this info on line.
As of a few days ago, there were three million vaccines administered, (2MM first doses)one could safely assume that in six weeks’ time there will be at least another million plus vaccinated.
Most experts agree .It is pretty much impossible to get the virus if you are vaccinated and in an outdoor environment.

 A little more analysis,
Population of Ireland is 5MM
Excluding 1MM under age of 14= 4MM
Right now 2MM have gotten one dose. If in six weeks another Million get a first shot, that would bring total to at least 3MM.
4MM divided by 3MM is = to 75% of population over 14 that will have received one dose.

All puzzling to say the least. Hoping common sense will prevail and let folks who are vaccinated and want to attend games to do so. I have no problem going onto a GAA website and providing proof of same and wearing a mask if that is required also.

Decided to follow up on this one, especially relevant as the Championship begins next weekend.
so read that as of this morning 3,434,053 doses have been distributed.
The govt stats show this at;
60% one dose
31% fully vaccinated.

Apparently over 900k new doses are set to arrive here in the next two weeks, with existing 300k current weekly vaccinations, that would give over 1.2MM additional vaccinations in next three + weeks. That would make over 4.6MM that will have been distributed.
At that point close to 70%% of the adult population will have one vaccine, not sure how many will be fully vaccinated.

How can the powers to be, I suppose Dr.T (etc) not acknowledge that it is pretty much impossible to get Covid if you are fully vaccinated, in addition, the chances of you passing it to someone else are similarly low. One small point, someone may mention to the D4 crowd, GAA games last time I checked are in outdoor stadiums.
To summarize, 50% of the population could be fully vaccinated, show proof, wear a mask and the maximum capacity for GAA games is 20-25%, and that is for the All-Irelands nine weeks out from here. You know what, on July 25th five weeks from yesterday, as someone who is fully vaccinated, I would take my chances that if Mayo are in the Connacht final, I would attend.
I would love for some Debbie Downer Dr, or WHO expert to debate me on the subject that it is not safe to attend an outdoor event if you are vaccinated.

Last night at MSG in NY, there was an indoor rock concert, you had to show you were fully vaccinated to attend. As I watched the news reports, I could not but reflect on the asinine rules still in place in Ireland.
"On Monday last , the governor of NY said he would lift virtually all remaining COVID restrictions once 70% of adult New Yorkers have at least one vaccine dose. As of Tuesday, 68.9% of them have had at least one job, Cuomo says CDC data shows.
Baseball stadiums are back to full capacity, i.e. folks can go to a game and have some long missed fun.

Would love to hear some thoughts on this.



Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 21, 2021, 09:57:44 PM
With the 2021 Championship about to get underway in both codes, wanted to open the discussion about potential attendances. As of now the “powers to be “ are saying that All-Ireland at the end of August may have 25k in attendance.

Don’t really want to turn this blog into a pissing contest about shabby vaccine rollout, which looks like it is as much an EU issue as much as an Ireland issue.
However, can somebody explain, that as it stands now, you will be able to go to Castlebar on July 24th, (assuming Mayo are in it) and be able to watch the game in a hotel, restaurant or a pub while having a pint, but you may not be able walk up the town and watch the Connaught final in an outdoor stadium, even though you have been vaccinated.

Has anybody questioned the GAA hierarchy in Croke park, the civil servants/ Govt who are deciding on attendance policies, and more importantly what science are they basing their allowed attendance on.

Not sure of % attendance of UK events.
Current examples of attendances in US. Btw, no masks whatsoever required at in bars and restaurants.
There were 135k at the Indianapolis 500 two weeks ago. Outdoor event.
NBA indoor attendance as of this week.
https://www.sportstravelmagazine.com/which-nba-teams-allow-fans-this-season-covid/

Back to Ireland. Just got this info on line.
As of a few days ago, there were three million vaccines administered, (2MM first doses)one could safely assume that in six weeks’ time there will be at least another million plus vaccinated.
Most experts agree .It is pretty much impossible to get the virus if you are vaccinated and in an outdoor environment.

 A little more analysis,
Population of Ireland is 5MM
Excluding 1MM under age of 14= 4MM
Right now 2MM have gotten one dose. If in six weeks another Million get a first shot, that would bring total to at least 3MM.
4MM divided by 3MM is = to 75% of population over 14 that will have received one dose.

All puzzling to say the least. Hoping common sense will prevail and let folks who are vaccinated and want to attend games to do so. I have no problem going onto a GAA website and providing proof of same and wearing a mask if that is required also.

Decided to follow up on this one, especially relevant as the Championship begins next weekend.
so read that as of this morning 3,434,053 doses have been distributed.
The govt stats show this at;
60% one dose
31% fully vaccinated.

Apparently over 900k new doses are set to arrive here in the next two weeks, with existing 300k current weekly vaccinations, that would give over 1.2MM additional vaccinations in next three + weeks. That would make over 4.6MM that will have been distributed.
At that point close to 70%% of the adult population will have one vaccine, not sure how many will be fully vaccinated.

How can the powers to be, I suppose Dr.T (etc) not acknowledge that it is pretty much impossible to get Covid if you are fully vaccinated, in addition, the chances of you passing it to someone else are similarly low. One small point, someone may mention to the D4 crowd, GAA games last time I checked are in outdoor stadiums.
To summarize, 50% of the population could be fully vaccinated, show proof, wear a mask and the maximum capacity for GAA games is 20-25%, and that is for the All-Irelands nine weeks out from here. You know what, on July 25th five weeks from yesterday, as someone who is fully vaccinated, I would take my chances that if Mayo are in the Connacht final, I would attend.
I would love for some Debbie Downer Dr, or WHO expert to debate me on the subject that it is not safe to attend an outdoor event if you are vaccinated.

Last night at MSG in NY, there was an indoor rock concert, you had to show you were fully vaccinated to attend. As I watched the news reports, I could not but reflect on the asinine rules still in place in Ireland.
"On Monday last , the governor of NY said he would lift virtually all remaining COVID restrictions once 70% of adult New Yorkers have at least one vaccine dose. As of Tuesday, 68.9% of them have had at least one job, Cuomo says CDC data shows.
Baseball stadiums are back to full capacity, i.e. folks can go to a game and have some long missed fun.

Would love to hear some thoughts on this.

The 'Delta variant' will put the kibosh on a lot of things. Tony H is already warning about it. ::)
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Rossfan on June 21, 2021, 10:02:30 PM
Is mask wearing compulsory at matches?
Were an awful lot of unmasked Biffos in Croker Saturday!
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on June 21, 2021, 10:54:26 PM
Is mask wearing compulsory at matches?
Were an awful lot of unmasked Biffos in Croker Saturday!

Yes going by the government guidelines but I'd question why. That was a test event and test events across Europe has no mask wearing instead they test all before and after events. England at the weekend allowed moshing at a 10,000 rock concert and it's a country full of the 'Delta variant I might add.
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Rossfan on June 21, 2021, 11:56:26 PM
If I get to any match I'll not go near any cnut without a mask shouting and spraying germs all over me.
As for the English.......
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on June 22, 2021, 01:17:51 AM
If I get to any match I'll not go near any cnut without a mask shouting and spraying germs all over me.
As for the English.......

Long before any covid few wanted any fellow supporter to be spraying his germs on them. The English are having proper 'testing" events. It's a half arsed attempt by us.
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 22, 2021, 09:16:07 AM
If I get to any match I'll not go near any cnut without a mask shouting and spraying germs all over me.
As for the English.......

You're going to be nice and quiet yourself so?
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: macker15 on June 22, 2021, 10:26:27 AM
If I get to any match I'll not go near any cnut without a mask shouting and spraying germs all over me.
As for the English.......

You probably have left after 10 minutes when The Galweigans are hammering the shite out of ye 🙄🙄
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Rossfan on June 22, 2021, 01:48:40 PM
If I get to any match I'll not go near any cnut without a mask shouting and spraying germs all over me.
As for the English.......

You're going to be nice and quiet yourself so?
I'll have me maiscín on ;)
Assuming we don't all get locked down here again....a lot of it in Athlone and Ros Town these days.
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 22, 2021, 05:03:57 PM
Wembley will have 75% of its capacity for the latter stages of the European championships. All that attend will have follow a number of strict entry requirements, including having a negative Covid-19 test or proof of full vaccination - two doses received, 14 days before the fixture.

The same should be done for Croke Park All Ireland semi finals and finals this August IMO but I don't expect that to happen.  Although the upcoming music concert will have rapid testing and one-metre social distancing if the same is applied for the upcoming GAA matches then more than originally planned will be allowed to attend.
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Taylor on June 22, 2021, 05:24:32 PM
I honestly dont know anyone that is following the guidelines at sporting events/games etc - not exclusive to GAA.

I mean all club sports
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: joemamas on June 22, 2021, 06:55:48 PM
Wembley will have 75% of its capacity for the latter stages of the European championships. All that attend will have follow a number of strict entry requirements, including having a negative Covid-19 test or proof of full vaccination - two doses received, 14 days before the fixture.

The same should be done for Croke Park All Ireland semi finals and finals this August IMO but I don't expect that to happen.
  Although the upcoming music concert will have rapid testing and one-metre social distancing if the same is applied for the upcoming GAA matches then more than originally planned will be allowed to attend.

Why not, don't take this personally, but when GAA supporters see this, they surely should make their feelings felt.
The feel good factor of going back to an intercounty football or hurling match will be immeasurable IMO.
It is such a part of our summer heritage.
 
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 22, 2021, 07:15:14 PM
Wembley will have 75% of its capacity for the latter stages of the European championships. All that attend will have follow a number of strict entry requirements, including having a negative Covid-19 test or proof of full vaccination - two doses received, 14 days before the fixture.

The same should be done for Croke Park All Ireland semi finals and finals this August IMO but I don't expect that to happen.
  Although the upcoming music concert will have rapid testing and one-metre social distancing if the same is applied for the upcoming GAA matches then more than originally planned will be allowed to attend.

Why not, don't take this personally, but when GAA supporters see this, they surely should make their feelings felt.
The feel good factor of going back to an intercounty football or hurling match will be immeasurable IMO.
It is such a part of our summer heritage.

Based on the approach that has been taken thus far by NPHET and the government and probably wanting to do it different. I think it will likely be a lot later than August before they realise the UK approach on attendances is the way to go.

Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Rossfan on June 22, 2021, 07:38:17 PM
The sight of many unmasked Biffos zitting together won't do much to convince NPHET /Government to increase permitted attendances earlier than planned.
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: joemamas on June 22, 2021, 09:06:05 PM
Wembley will have 75% of its capacity for the latter stages of the European championships. All that attend will have follow a number of strict entry requirements, including having a negative Covid-19 test or proof of full vaccination - two doses received, 14 days before the fixture.

The same should be done for Croke Park All Ireland semi finals and finals this August IMO but I don't expect that to happen.
  Although the upcoming music concert will have rapid testing and one-metre social distancing if the same is applied for the upcoming GAA matches then more than originally planned will be allowed to attend.

Why not, don't take this personally, but when GAA supporters see this, they surely should make their feelings felt.
The feel good factor of going back to an intercounty football or hurling match will be immeasurable IMO.
It is such a part of our summer heritage.

Based on the approach that has been taken thus far by NPHET and the government and probably wanting to do it different. I think it will likely be a lot later than August before they realise the UK approach on attendances is the way to go.

Two Q's;
1. Why
2. How come Irish people will accept it when there is no science backing up, that vaccinated people will either give or contract covid in an outdoor setting.
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 22, 2021, 09:10:25 PM
The sight of many unmasked Biffos zitting together won't do much to convince NPHET /Government to increase permitted attendances earlier than planned.

Maybe they are all vaccinated.
Title: Re: GAA attendance 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on June 22, 2021, 09:25:30 PM
The sight of many unmasked Biffos zitting together won't do much to convince NPHET /Government to increase permitted attendances earlier than planned.

Maybe they are all vaccinated.

Any Offaly supporters sitting together would be likely part of their own social bubble. If vaccinated or tested negative for covid there is a case for no masks. Indoors is the main spreader of the virus and in July we'll have homes or pubs with groups of people watching matches on TV while having near empty stadiums.