Man Utd Thread:

[BennyCake]

Remember a couple of new players in the summer and everything will be just fine. 

Absolutely. A couple of midfielders, a couple of defenders and a couple of strikers and we'll be grand! 

You might as well throw in a new keeper while you're at it!

Yup. Need a new spine. I'd go for something like this:

Schmeichel
Maguire
Kante
Vardy

Leicester 2016 you mean.

Get Mahrez as well.

Big Morgan will probably be the only one they could land ATM.

Maguire wasn't at Leicester in 2016. It's only coincidental they're all Leicester though. And they are what United need in all those positions

[BennyCake]

Valencia has also gone. He seemed a good pro. Unable to beat the first defender with a cross, but a good pro all the same. I look forward to a highlight reel in years to come of him lifting trophies but no actual footage of him contributing to said trophy. Although, as I write, I remember he did score against Blackburn in an important game once. It may have been a cross that missed its target but an important goal all the same. I wish him well.

If Young also leaves, will this mean we are forced to play someone who can actually cross the ball and make a worthwhile contribution? Worrying times indeed.

Always liked Valencia. Give his all. He was POTY at United once or twice. Didn't get a load of goals, but he has been shoehorned into a FB position for the last 3/4 years. Plus he missed a whole season with a broken leg too. Injury and age catching up with him, but I'm sorry to see him go. Great servant.

[Square Ball]

did Woodward bow to the public clamour and appoint OGS too early? If he had stuck to his guns and waited to the end of the season would they have appointed him? I think not given the end to the season. but hope springs eternal.

[BennyCake]

did Woodward bow to the public clamour and appoint OGS too early? If he had stuck to his guns and waited to the end of the season would they have appointed him? I think not given the end to the season. but hope springs eternal.

Ole was appointed because they obviously couldn't get Pochettino. I mean, why appoint Ole permanently if an obviously better manager could be got?

[Geoff Tipps]

did Woodward bow to the public clamour and appoint OGS too early? If he had stuck to his guns and waited to the end of the season would they have appointed him? I think not given the end to the season. but hope springs eternal.

Not a chance! Complete madness to give him the job in the first place. He got a bit of a bounce that all new managers get and a very lucky win against PSG.
His managerial record shows nothing that would suggest he's up to the job of managing a club like United. He'll be gone by March next season and the merry go round will continue.
If anyone at United had any sense they would call an end to it now and go after Poch.

[Farrandeelin]

did Woodward bow to the public clamour and appoint OGS too early? If he had stuck to his guns and waited to the end of the season would they have appointed him? I think not given the end to the season. but hope springs eternal.

Not a chance! Complete madness to give him the job in the first place. He got a bit of a bounce that all new managers get and a very lucky win against PSG.
His managerial record shows nothing that would suggest he's up to the job of managing a club like United. He'll be gone by March next season and the merry go round will continue.
If anyone at United had any sense they would call an end to it now and go after Poch.

Could be Halloween if there's a shaky start. Anyway, do Utd have to play in the qualifying round for the Europa League next season?

[Geoff Tipps]

did Woodward bow to the public clamour and appoint OGS too early? If he had stuck to his guns and waited to the end of the season would they have appointed him? I think not given the end to the season. but hope springs eternal.

Not a chance! Complete madness to give him the job in the first place. He got a bit of a bounce that all new managers get and a very lucky win against PSG.
His managerial record shows nothing that would suggest he's up to the job of managing a club like United. He'll be gone by March next season and the merry go round will continue.
If anyone at United had any sense they would call an end to it now and go after Poch.

Could be Halloween if there's a shaky start. Anyway, do Utd have to play in the qualifying round for the Europa League next season?

Depends on the FA cup final. A Watford win means they would need to pre-qualify, I think.

[GetOverTheBar]

did Woodward bow to the public clamour and appoint OGS too early? If he had stuck to his guns and waited to the end of the season would they have appointed him? I think not given the end to the season. but hope springs eternal.

Not a chance! Complete madness to give him the job in the first place. He got a bit of a bounce that all new managers get and a very lucky win against PSG.
His managerial record shows nothing that would suggest he's up to the job of managing a club like United. He'll be gone by March next season and the merry go round will continue.
If anyone at United had any sense they would call an end to it now and go after Poch.

Could be Halloween if there's a shaky start. Anyway, do Utd have to play in the qualifying round for the Europa League next season?

Depends on the FA cup final. A Watford win means they would need to pre-qualify, I think.

Watford win would leave United starting in July something ridiculous - they are due to play a friendly in the USA that same day.

Could be the final twist of the knife.

[02]

did Woodward bow to the public clamour and appoint OGS too early? If he had stuck to his guns and waited to the end of the season would they have appointed him? I think not given the end to the season. but hope springs eternal.

Not a chance! Complete madness to give him the job in the first place. He got a bit of a bounce that all new managers get and a very lucky win against PSG.
His managerial record shows nothing that would suggest he's up to the job of managing a club like United. He'll be gone by March next season and the merry go round will continue.
If anyone at United had any sense they would call an end to it now and go after Poch.

Should go for Chris Hughton would do a better job than Ole. He must be the most badly treated manager in EPL history.

[Carmen Stateside]

That should see United out of the cup.  Can concentrate on getting 6th in the league then

Or 4th 

6th 

[Cunny Funt]

did Woodward bow to the public clamour and appoint OGS too early? If he had stuck to his guns and waited to the end of the season would they have appointed him? I think not given the end to the season. but hope springs eternal.

Not a chance! Complete madness to give him the job in the first place. He got a bit of a bounce that all new managers get and a very lucky win against PSG.
His managerial record shows nothing that would suggest he's up to the job of managing a club like United. He'll be gone by March next season and the merry go round will continue.
If anyone at United had any sense they would call an end to it now and go after Poch.

Poch with a stronger panel and players playing to their potential only finished the league season 5 points ahead of United and United have been a total shambles August to December and for the last two months.

Best thing Poch has done is leading Spurs to the CL final and the wins v Man City,Ajax on route to that final was every bit as lucky as United's win v PSG.

[Hound]

I think there's every chance Ole will be asked to resign very soon and get a big thank you and a big  payoff, and it'll be dressed up like it is all his idea. 'He's had a chance to think it through and he's decided it's not for him' type language.

Poch would be super for MU, IMO. Comparing the average transfer fee per player, it's amazing what he's done. And it's not like it's all plain sailing to manage Spurs. Dele is supposed to be a right arse, but he keeps him on straight and narrow. And there's been a lot of upset that the players get paid miles less than the rest of the big 6. To keep them all together, playing for each other, and playing for him has been a great achievement. They've been top 4 all season, and I'm sure it would have been more comfortable but for the understandable distraction of their CL run.

If Poch does leave in the summer, IMO, there's no chance of Spurs finishing higher than 6 next season. If he stays they'll be top 4 again.

[Geoff Tipps]

did Woodward bow to the public clamour and appoint OGS too early? If he had stuck to his guns and waited to the end of the season would they have appointed him? I think not given the end to the season. but hope springs eternal.

Not a chance! Complete madness to give him the job in the first place. He got a bit of a bounce that all new managers get and a very lucky win against PSG.
His managerial record shows nothing that would suggest he's up to the job of managing a club like United. He'll be gone by March next season and the merry go round will continue.
If anyone at United had any sense they would call an end to it now and go after Poch.

Poch with a stronger panel and players playing to their potential only finished the league season 5 points ahead of United and United have been a total shambles August to December and for the last two months.

Best thing Poch has done is leading Spurs to the CL final and the wins v Man City,Ajax on route to that final was every bit as lucky as United's win v PSG.

A squad he put together for relative peanuts and don't you think he deserves the credit for getting them playing to their potential??
He's also made them a regular fixture in the top 4.
Put it this way, if both of they were in the market for a job now, Poch would have his pick of clubs and Ole would be going back to Norway to manage the pub team he came from.

[thewobbler]

did Woodward bow to the public clamour and appoint OGS too early? If he had stuck to his guns and waited to the end of the season would they have appointed him? I think not given the end to the season. but hope springs eternal.

Not a chance! Complete madness to give him the job in the first place. He got a bit of a bounce that all new managers get and a very lucky win against PSG.
His managerial record shows nothing that would suggest he's up to the job of managing a club like United. He'll be gone by March next season and the merry go round will continue.
If anyone at United had any sense they would call an end to it now and go after Poch.

Poch with a stronger panel and players playing to their potential only finished the league season 5 points ahead of United and United have been a total shambles August to December and for the last two months.

Best thing Poch has done is leading Spurs to the CL final and the wins v Man City,Ajax on route to that final was every bit as lucky as United's win v PSG.

Lloris has made more mistakes this season than in all previous years combined.

Trippier has had a horrible season.
Rose only got his place back properly after Xmas.
Toby was out of favour for a while.
Jan has become injury prone.

Winks has missed half the season with injuries.
Dier has missed two thirds of the season with injuries
Wanyama has missed two thirds of the season with injuries.

Alli has missed half the season with injuries.
Kane has missed half the season with injuries.
Son missed a quarter of the season with internationals.

The only Spurs players who consistently played to form this season were Sissoko, Son and Vertonghen. Eriksen was solid all season without being spectacular.

There's more improvement to come from Spurs's squad than Man Utd's.

[Cunny Funt]

did Woodward bow to the public clamour and appoint OGS too early? If he had stuck to his guns and waited to the end of the season would they have appointed him? I think not given the end to the season. but hope springs eternal.

Not a chance! Complete madness to give him the job in the first place. He got a bit of a bounce that all new managers get and a very lucky win against PSG.
His managerial record shows nothing that would suggest he's up to the job of managing a club like United. He'll be gone by March next season and the merry go round will continue.
If anyone at United had any sense they would call an end to it now and go after Poch.

Poch with a stronger panel and players playing to their potential only finished the league season 5 points ahead of United and United have been a total shambles August to December and for the last two months.

Best thing Poch has done is leading Spurs to the CL final and the wins v Man City,Ajax on route to that final was every bit as lucky as United's win v PSG.

Lloris has made more mistakes this season than in all previous years combined.

Trippier has had a horrible season.
Rose only got his place back properly after Xmas.
Toby was out of favour for a while.
Jan has become injury prone.

Winks has missed half the season with injuries.
Dier has missed two thirds of the season with injuries
Wanyama has missed two thirds of the season with injuries.

Alli has missed half the season with injuries.
Kane has missed half the season with injuries.
Son missed a quarter of the season with internationals.

The only Spurs players who consistently played to form this season were Sissoko, Son and Vertonghen. Eriksen was solid all season without being spectacular.

There’s more improvement to come from Spurs’s squad than Man Utd’s.

United's squad has only performed for about 2 months this season, loads of injuries and players such as DeGea totally under performing. Any decent improvement next season should get them up to about 74 -76 points IMO.

5 season of Poch with Spurs now. First two seasons finished with 64 and 70 points 3rd season was overachieving one and they have regressed in the league the last two seasons with less points and 20 plus points off the champions. I don't see much improvement with Spurs next season they will probably draw more games and not lose 13 matches again but will likely require marquee signing or two to get close to a title challenge.