The US policing crisis thread

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muppet

Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 10, 2015, 03:11:36 PM
I won't disagree with you whitey as you live in the states so presumably you're correct in what you say.

In non-threatening situations like this though, surely the cops should be trying to diffuse tension rather than ratchet it up. Because it's the norm for cops to behave like this doesn't mean it's the smart thing to do

Never mind his Boston bar story. This is about kids in Texas. The States is a huge country with cops differing from state to state. You can't get into a bar in Boston without a passport, even if you are on a zimmer-frame. It varies wildly.

There were 11 other cops who did nothing and have been backed by their Chief. Dirty Harry style policing might be up Whitey's street, but thankfully he is in a minority.

So if its about kids in Texas why are you iignoring the the eyewitness testimony of a black man who was there.

Do you have better insight into how events unfolded that he does?

You are ignoring everything, except a quote from someone who said he was an eyewitness. You don't even know what question he was asked.

The cop quit. His Chief castigated him. Whitey says he was doing a great job beating up that girl.
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whitey

Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 10, 2015, 03:11:36 PM
I won't disagree with you whitey as you live in the states so presumably you're correct in what you say.

In non-threatening situations like this though, surely the cops should be trying to diffuse tension rather than ratchet it up. Because it's the norm for cops to behave like this doesn't mean it's the smart thing to do

Never mind his Boston bar story. This is about kids in Texas. The States is a huge country with cops differing from state to state. You can't get into a bar in Boston without a passport, even if you are on a zimmer-frame. It varies wildly.

There were 11 other cops who did nothing and have been backed by their Chief. Dirty Harry style policing might be up Whitey's street, but thankfully he is in a minority.

So if its about kids in Texas why are you iignoring the the eyewitness testimony of a black man who was there.

Do you have better insight into how events unfolded that he does?

You are ignoring everything, except a quote from someone who said he was an eyewitness. You don't even know what question he was asked.

The cop quit. His Chief castigated him. Whitey says he was doing a great job beating up that girl.

Beg to differ.......https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QLpVJ2J919Q

screenexile

Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 04:40:08 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 10, 2015, 03:11:36 PM
I won't disagree with you whitey as you live in the states so presumably you're correct in what you say.

In non-threatening situations like this though, surely the cops should be trying to diffuse tension rather than ratchet it up. Because it's the norm for cops to behave like this doesn't mean it's the smart thing to do

Never mind his Boston bar story. This is about kids in Texas. The States is a huge country with cops differing from state to state. You can't get into a bar in Boston without a passport, even if you are on a zimmer-frame. It varies wildly.

There were 11 other cops who did nothing and have been backed by their Chief. Dirty Harry style policing might be up Whitey's street, but thankfully he is in a minority.

So if its about kids in Texas why are you iignoring the the eyewitness testimony of a black man who was there.

Do you have better insight into how events unfolded that he does?

You are ignoring everything, except a quote from someone who said he was an eyewitness. You don't even know what question he was asked.

The cop quit. His Chief castigated him. Whitey says he was doing a great job beating up that girl.

Beg to differ.......https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QLpVJ2J919Q

Oh jesus he pulls out Hannity!!!!

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/sean-hannity-mckinney-cop-had-to-defend-himself-from-being-shanked-by-pool-party-teens/

muppet

Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 04:40:08 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 10, 2015, 03:11:36 PM
I won't disagree with you whitey as you live in the states so presumably you're correct in what you say.

In non-threatening situations like this though, surely the cops should be trying to diffuse tension rather than ratchet it up. Because it's the norm for cops to behave like this doesn't mean it's the smart thing to do

Never mind his Boston bar story. This is about kids in Texas. The States is a huge country with cops differing from state to state. You can't get into a bar in Boston without a passport, even if you are on a zimmer-frame. It varies wildly.

There were 11 other cops who did nothing and have been backed by their Chief. Dirty Harry style policing might be up Whitey's street, but thankfully he is in a minority.

So if its about kids in Texas why are you iignoring the the eyewitness testimony of a black man who was there.

Do you have better insight into how events unfolded that he does?

You are ignoring everything, except a quote from someone who said he was an eyewitness. You don't even know what question he was asked.

The cop quit. His Chief castigated him. Whitey says he was doing a great job beating up that girl.

Beg to differ.......https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QLpVJ2J919Q

Hannity  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Why did the other 11 cops not have to bravely throw bikini clad teenage girls onto the ground in order to defend themselves?

Here is what the Police Chief said: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-pool-party-casebolt-resigns-mckinney-police-article-1.2252485

He said Casebolt's actions were 'indefensible'.

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whitey

Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 05:05:36 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 04:40:08 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 10, 2015, 03:11:36 PM
I won't disagree with you whitey as you live in the states so presumably you're correct in what you say.

In non-threatening situations like this though, surely the cops should be trying to diffuse tension rather than ratchet it up. Because it's the norm for cops to behave like this doesn't mean it's the smart thing to do

Never mind his Boston bar story. This is about kids in Texas. The States is a huge country with cops differing from state to state. You can't get into a bar in Boston without a passport, even if you are on a zimmer-frame. It varies wildly.

There were 11 other cops who did nothing and have been backed by their Chief. Dirty Harry style policing might be up Whitey's street, but thankfully he is in a minority.

So if its about kids in Texas why are you iignoring the the eyewitness testimony of a black man who was there.

Do you have better insight into how events unfolded that he does?

You are ignoring everything, except a quote from someone who said he was an eyewitness. You don't even know what question he was asked.

The cop quit. His Chief castigated him. Whitey says he was doing a great job beating up that girl.

Beg to differ.......https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QLpVJ2J919Q

Hannity  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Why did the other 11 cops not have to bravely throw bikini clad teenage girls onto the ground in order to defend themselves?

Here is what the Police Chief said: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-pool-party-casebolt-resigns-mckinney-police-article-1.2252485

He said Casebolt's actions were 'indefensible'.

LOL-so after watching that interview and hearing the questions directly (even from Hannity)  do you still stand by your previous assertion that it was an incident fuelled by rascism?  Yes or no

muppet

Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 05:08:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 05:05:36 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 04:40:08 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 10, 2015, 03:11:36 PM
I won't disagree with you whitey as you live in the states so presumably you're correct in what you say.

In non-threatening situations like this though, surely the cops should be trying to diffuse tension rather than ratchet it up. Because it's the norm for cops to behave like this doesn't mean it's the smart thing to do

Never mind his Boston bar story. This is about kids in Texas. The States is a huge country with cops differing from state to state. You can't get into a bar in Boston without a passport, even if you are on a zimmer-frame. It varies wildly.

There were 11 other cops who did nothing and have been backed by their Chief. Dirty Harry style policing might be up Whitey's street, but thankfully he is in a minority.

So if its about kids in Texas why are you iignoring the the eyewitness testimony of a black man who was there.

Do you have better insight into how events unfolded that he does?

You are ignoring everything, except a quote from someone who said he was an eyewitness. You don't even know what question he was asked.

The cop quit. His Chief castigated him. Whitey says he was doing a great job beating up that girl.

Beg to differ.......https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QLpVJ2J919Q

Hannity  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Why did the other 11 cops not have to bravely throw bikini clad teenage girls onto the ground in order to defend themselves?

Here is what the Police Chief said: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-pool-party-casebolt-resigns-mckinney-police-article-1.2252485

He said Casebolt's actions were 'indefensible'.

LOL-so after watching that interview and hearing the questions directly (even from Hannity)  do you still stand by your previous assertion that it was an incident fuelled by rascism?  Yes or no

I wouldn't watch Hannity if he was the last TV on earth.
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whitey


muppet

Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 05:18:24 PM
How convenient

You go to Fox News chief right-wing lunatic Hannity to try to prove it wasn't racist!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You might watch that crap but don't expect the rest of us to.

Here is what the guy who took the video said:

Brandon Brooks, who posted the videos to YouTube, said in the original video's description, "A fight between a mom and a girl broke out and when the cops showed up everyone ran, including the people who didn't do anything. So the cops just started putting everyone on the ground and in handcuffs for no reason. This kind of force is uncalled for especially on children and innocent bystanders."

.....

The teen who filmed the video, who is white, agreed. He can be seen in the video walking around and talking to the black teens, who are being forced to sit on the ground, without the Casebolt saying anything to him.

Brooks told Buzzfeed, "Everyone who was getting put on the ground was black, Mexican, Arabic. [The cop] didn't even look at me. It was kind of like I was invisible."



Hannity me arse.
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whitey

#383
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 05:21:51 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 05:18:24 PM
How convenient

You go to Fox News chief right-wing lunatic Hannity to try to prove it wasn't racist!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You might watch that crap but don't expect the rest of us to.

Here is what the guy who took the video said:

Brandon Brooks, who posted the videos to YouTube, said in the original video's description, "A fight between a mom and a girl broke out and when the cops showed up everyone ran, including the people who didn't do anything. So the cops just started putting everyone on the ground and in handcuffs for no reason. This kind of force is uncalled for especially on children and innocent bystanders."

.....

The teen who filmed the video, who is white, agreed. He can be seen in the video walking around and talking to the black teens, who are being forced to sit on the ground, without the Casebolt saying anything to him.

Brooks told Buzzfeed, "Everyone who was getting put on the ground was black, Mexican, Arabic. [The cop] didn't even look at me. It was kind of like I was invisible."



Hannity me arse.

LOL...changing the subject again....now trying to make it about Hannity

The guy did interviews all over the place....that one was the one that popped up first, probably due to view count. 

Heres one he did on CNN......or is it against your religion to watch CNN too??

Of course some people are going to say its racist, but theres a different POV from equallly credible sources saying the complete opposite but your completely ignoring them

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PClAOQ7ZMok

Oh, by the way hes now getting death threats for saying it wasnt rascist

muppet

That man is not dealing with the specific Casebolt incident, he is mainly talking about the whole event.

All he said about Casebolt is that he doesn't believe that he showed up with the intent of being racist. That is fine. It is his opinion and he is entitled to it. Eater way it would be hard to prove Casebolt's intent.

But the facts in the video are that Casebolt ignored the white kids and assaulted only black kids. That is a fact no matter how people try to spin it. Saying that it was a coincidence that they are black is stretching things, because if you notice at no time did Casebolt ask whether anyone was local or not. Case bolt decided who was who on colour alone.

You are a gas man claiming people are ignoring things while you ignore the following:

1) Casebolt quit after watching the video;
2) Casebolt's Police Chief has condemned his actions;
3) The Mayor has expressed dismay at the policing of Casebolt in the video;

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whitey

Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 05:49:51 PM
That man is not dealing with the specific Casebolt incident, he is mainly talking about the whole event.

All he said about Casebolt is that he doesn't believe that he showed up with the intent of being racist. That is fine. It is his opinion and he is entitled to it. Eater way it would be hard to prove Casebolt's intent.

But the facts in the video are that Casebolt ignored the white kids and assaulted only black kids. That is a fact no matter how people try to spin it. Saying that it was a coincidence that they are black is stretching things, because if you notice at no time did Casebolt ask whether anyone was local or not. Case bolt decided who was who on colour alone.

You are a gas man claiming people are ignoring things while you ignore the following:

1) Casebolt quit after watching the video;
2) Casebolt's Police Chief has condemned his actions;
3) The Mayor has expressed dismay at the policing of Casebolt in the video;

The whole event is defined by the Casebolt incident-LOL.


muppet

Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 06:01:32 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 05:49:51 PM
That man is not dealing with the specific Casebolt incident, he is mainly talking about the whole event.

All he said about Casebolt is that he doesn't believe that he showed up with the intent of being racist. That is fine. It is his opinion and he is entitled to it. Eater way it would be hard to prove Casebolt's intent.

But the facts in the video are that Casebolt ignored the white kids and assaulted only black kids. That is a fact no matter how people try to spin it. Saying that it was a coincidence that they are black is stretching things, because if you notice at no time did Casebolt ask whether anyone was local or not. Case bolt decided who was who on colour alone.

You are a gas man claiming people are ignoring things while you ignore the following:

1) Casebolt quit after watching the video;
2) Casebolt's Police Chief has condemned his actions;
3) The Mayor has expressed dismay at the policing of Casebolt in the video;

The whole event is defined by the Casebolt incident-LOL.

And yet your interviewee doesn't even talk about him or the girl. Why is that?
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whitey

#387
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 06:01:32 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 05:49:51 PM
That man is not dealing with the specific Casebolt incident, he is mainly talking about the whole event.

All he said about Casebolt is that he doesn't believe that he showed up with the intent of being racist. That is fine. It is his opinion and he is entitled to it. Eater way it would be hard to prove Casebolt's intent.

But the facts in the video are that Casebolt ignored the white kids and assaulted only black kids. That is a fact no matter how people try to spin it. Saying that it was a coincidence that they are black is stretching things, because if you notice at no time did Casebolt ask whether anyone was local or not. Case bolt decided who was who on colour alone.

You are a gas man claiming people are ignoring things while you ignore the following:

1) Casebolt quit after watching the video;
2) Casebolt's Police Chief has condemned his actions;
3) The Mayor has expressed dismay at the policing of Casebolt in the video;

The whole event is defined by the Casebolt incident-LOL.

And yet your interviewee doesn't even talk about him or the girl. Why is that?

Are you watching the same video as me?

1:26 interviewee quotes the bikini girls father as saying "this is all about race"

muppet

Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 06:19:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 06:01:32 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 05:49:51 PM
That man is not dealing with the specific Casebolt incident, he is mainly talking about the whole event.

All he said about Casebolt is that he doesn't believe that he showed up with the intent of being racist. That is fine. It is his opinion and he is entitled to it. Eater way it would be hard to prove Casebolt's intent.

But the facts in the video are that Casebolt ignored the white kids and assaulted only black kids. That is a fact no matter how people try to spin it. Saying that it was a coincidence that they are black is stretching things, because if you notice at no time did Casebolt ask whether anyone was local or not. Case bolt decided who was who on colour alone.

You are a gas man claiming people are ignoring things while you ignore the following:

1) Casebolt quit after watching the video;
2) Casebolt's Police Chief has condemned his actions;
3) The Mayor has expressed dismay at the policing of Casebolt in the video;

The whole event is defined by the Casebolt incident-LOL.

And yet your interviewee doesn't even talk about him or the girl. Why is that?

Are you watching the same video as me?

1:26 interviewee quotes the bikini girls father as saying "this is all about race"

They don't discuss Casebolt's actions with the girl do they?

You don't want to post about anyone who talks specifically about Casebolt's action because, as his Police Chief, his actions are 'indefensible'. But yet you are trying to defend his actions.
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whitey

Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 06:22:49 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 06:19:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 10, 2015, 06:01:32 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 05:49:51 PM
That man is not dealing with the specific Casebolt incident, he is mainly talking about the whole event.

All he said about Casebolt is that he doesn't believe that he showed up with the intent of being racist. That is fine. It is his opinion and he is entitled to it. Eater way it would be hard to prove Casebolt's intent.

But the facts in the video are that Casebolt ignored the white kids and assaulted only black kids. That is a fact no matter how people try to spin it. Saying that it was a coincidence that they are black is stretching things, because if you notice at no time did Casebolt ask whether anyone was local or not. Case bolt decided who was who on colour alone.

You are a gas man claiming people are ignoring things while you ignore the following:

1) Casebolt quit after watching the video;
2) Casebolt's Police Chief has condemned his actions;
3) The Mayor has expressed dismay at the policing of Casebolt in the video;

The whole event is defined by the Casebolt incident-LOL.

And yet your interviewee doesn't even talk about him or the girl. Why is that?

Are you watching the same video as me?

1:26 interviewee quotes the bikini girls father as saying "this is all about race"

They don't discuss Casebolt's actions with the girl do they?

You don't want to post about anyone who talks specifically about Casebolt's action because, as his Police Chief, his actions are 'indefensible'. But yet you are trying to defend his actions.

Well given that you wont watch the Hannity video, we may as well leave it there. 


I guess the "it" bikini girls dad is referring to could be construed as the entire incident not the incident specific to his daughter. If theyre quoting bikins girls dad, and Im going on the assumption that theyre referring to his daughters takedown

They spend significant time talking about and disceting the Casebolt incident on the Hannity video.

Im not defending his actions....Im just saying that they arent rascist....and several African American eyewitnesses say the same thing as me and several white witnesses have the same opinion as you