In addition. In the last council elections SF got 9.5% of first preference votes and 81 elected councillors. You are predicting their 1st preference votes will drop by between 2.3% and 3.1%. That's a brave call.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 07:11:55 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:59:56 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 06:47:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:32:45 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:29:52 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Yes
But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election
https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub
Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive
haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.
Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.
Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)
So your prediction is a collapse in Sinn Fein vote in the local elections. You predicting the same in the European elections?
Yes and yes
1/4-1/3 of the people who voted for them in 2020 will not vote for them this go around
Now due to PR, they may not lose 1/4-1/3 of their seats, but they will lose some
Which is scandalous considering they are the main opposition party to an historically unpopular government
OK, Sinn Fein in South currently has 1 MEP. You think they might lose that but if they don't it'll be because of PR.
What if I told you SF are nailed on to get 3 MEPs with an outside chance of 2nd seats in the 3 constituencies? You are saying that im wrong.
I'm saying Sinn Feins FPV % will fall by somewhere between 25% and 33% over what the received in 2020
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 06:47:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:32:45 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:29:52 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Yes
But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election
https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub
Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive
haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.
Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.
Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)
So your prediction is a collapse in Sinn Fein vote in the local elections. You predicting the same in the European elections?
Yes and yes
1/4-1/3 of the people who voted for them in 2020 will not vote for them this go around
Now due to PR, they may not lose 1/4-1/3 of their seats, but they will lose some
Which is scandalous considering they are the main opposition party to an historically unpopular government
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:29:52 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Yes
But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election
https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub
Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive
haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.
Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.
Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Yes
But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election
https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub
Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 11:48:34 AMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 11:40:50 AMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 10:14:44 AMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 09:19:13 AMThe uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's are ironically closely aligned with the Far Right in England and even Loyalist paramilitaries in the North. They even invite them into Ireland to speak at their little rallies. That just about sums up the brain power in operation in the Far Right and their supporters like Whitey and Burdizzo. Empty vessels with one or two brain cells rattling around inside.
50% of Sinn Fein supporters now support border checks to stem the flow of migrants
The people inviting these far right types in would very very likely be Sinn Fein supporters
In this immigration matter-Sinn Fein gave the 2 fingers to their most loyal supporters
So out of touch its not funny
Yes
Go to Trinity (or Blackrock College)
Add a few fadas to your name
Bobs your uncle
Champagne socialist starter pack
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 10:14:44 AMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 09:19:13 AMThe uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's are ironically closely aligned with the Far Right in England and even Loyalist paramilitaries in the North. They even invite them into Ireland to speak at their little rallies. That just about sums up the brain power in operation in the Far Right and their supporters like Whitey and Burdizzo. Empty vessels with one or two brain cells rattling around inside.
50% of Sinn Fein supporters now support border checks to stem the flow of migrants
The people inviting these far right types in would very very likely be Sinn Fein supporters
In this immigration matter-Sinn Fein gave the 2 fingers to their most loyal supporters
Quote from: Rossfan on May 14, 2024, 07:57:41 PMMore summery
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/traitor-slogans-daubed-beside-mary-lou-mcdonalds-constituency-office-in-dublin/a627268100.html
Quote from: whitey on May 14, 2024, 04:30:11 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 04:01:51 PMQuote from: whitey on May 14, 2024, 02:36:26 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 02:22:46 PMNow I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?
How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).
Is it a good start-yes
But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.
I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting
Sounds like it is not possible to vet people, doesnt it. I mean do you think someone escaping war in the Sudan for example will have their finger prints on an international database. There is no way to vet 100% people and when you get a group in you will get the normal distribution of good people (vast Majority) and bad people (small minority) just like you do in the general population. The issue is the racist far right want you to equate black faces with all being unvetted criminals.
I see you then had a dig at "NGO's" which seems to be another Far Right thing to do these days, despite those clowns not even knowing what NGOs are or do and how fcuked we would be as a country without them. Which ones have you and issue with or is it all of them?
Why wouldn't you want the authorities to make every effort to verify the identities of those entering the country and conduct rudimentary background checks using all available technologies including international criminal fingerprint databases?
Seems like a no brainer to me
Re the NGOs-the fact that any taxpayer funded entity have a financial incentive to act against the best interests of the taxpayer and the everyday working person is mind boggling to say the least
Quote from: whitey on May 14, 2024, 02:36:26 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 02:22:46 PMNow I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?
How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).
Is it a good start-yes
But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.
I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting