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believebelive:
This topic got a little bit of interest on the last board. Im going to try and put a few motions forward at my club AGM with the view to getting them passed and on to county convention. The general consensus from watching the views on this board is that most GAA people are annoyed about the club game.
Anyway is there any chance we could get a universal motion that we all put to our clubs and see what happens.
As far as I know you cannot change the rules this year - whho is the rules expert here so we know what were doing..lol

Lone Shark:
I've had a go this year. The idea being that if players/teams escape sanction on the grounds of a silly technicality, then the sanction can be re-applied with procedures correctly followed. It would stop stupid appeals on nitpicking grounds (I hope) because people would realise that either the evidence is in their favour or else they will eventually have to serve an appropriate punishment, rather than escape because the appropriate committee read the ref's report before a cup of coffee rather than after it.

Here's my wording, though if anyone has a better way of phrasing it, feel free to try and put it through your own clubs.

Amendment to Official Guide


That Riail 156, leathanach 92 T.O. (2006) (Part 1) be amended by the insertion of the following new section (h). Existing sections (h), (i) and (j) to be listed as sections (i), (j) and (k), respectively. New section (h) to read:

In the event of the appellant being successful in their appeal due to misapplication of the rules of the association, the relevant disciplinary body shall have the right to re-impose another sanction with the rules applied correctly.

Rules affected or possibly affected: Riail 47, 142, 143, 145, 151, 156, 159 T.O. Part 1

believebelive:
Sounds good lone shark - almost too sensible to be got through - what wud the legal minds make of the wording? Has BC made the trip across yet?

tayto:

--- Quote from: Lone Shark on November 10, 2006, 10:22:39 AM ---I've had a go this year. The idea being that if players/teams escape sanction on the grounds of a silly technicality, then the sanction can be re-applied with procedures correctly followed. It would stop stupid appeals on nitpicking grounds (I hope) because people would realise that either the evidence is in their favour or else they will eventually have to serve an appropriate punishment, rather than escape because the appropriate committee read the ref's report before a cup of coffee rather than after it.

Here's my wording, though if anyone has a better way of phrasing it, feel free to try and put it through your own clubs.

Amendment to Official Guide


That Riail 156, leathanach 92 T.O. (2006) (Part 1) be amended by the insertion of the following new section (h). Existing sections (h), (i) and (j) to be listed as sections (i), (j) and (k), respectively. New section (h) to read:

In the event of the appellant being successful in their appeal due to misapplication of the rules of the association, the relevant disciplinary body shall have the right to re-impose another sanction with the rules applied correctly.

Rules affected or possibly affected: Riail 47, 142, 143, 145, 151, 156, 159 T.O. Part 1



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That's a great idea Lone! We look a bit stupid whinging about the aussies when we've lads getting away with murder in our own games.

I wouldnt mind a modified sin-bin, or some other way of punishing teams that are fouling again and again, even if they are genuine fouls [by that i mean not cynical] a lot of games, at club level especially, get ruined by serial fouling. Maybe something like in basketball where you commit X number of fould and you give a free shot on goal or something like that ... not sure which would be the best system but i think something could be brought in to reduce the number of fouls.

Fionntamhnach:
Lone Shark's idea is in theory a good idea but in practice it is open to abuse. The main problem with disciplinary bodies that that over the last few years they have, at national level at least, only reacted very much to media pressure and ignored similar incidents that for whatever reason aren't given the same publicity treatment. If the first disciplinary charge was thrown out on technicalities, what is to stop the second one also being thrown out on the same case with the said body that was ignorant enough not knowing how to apply it the first time right.

The sin-bin is one that could work well after some teething problems to start with. It would help cut down on a lot of cynical fouling.

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