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« Reply #21645 on: September 17, 2021, 10:16:00 PM »
One would think people who get any such role as Ďdirectorí must have success in terms of playing, but more importantly in coaching and management ? Does he ? If he does then he will get the respect, iif he doesnít then itís a disaster!! Credibility comes from success in sport

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« Reply #21646 on: September 17, 2021, 10:36:26 PM »
One would think people who get any such role as Ďdirectorí must have success in terms of playing, but more importantly in coaching and management ? Does he ? If he does then he will get the respect, iif he doesnít then itís a disaster!! Credibility comes from success in sport
I donít disagree with your point but the question leading from your post is are we blessed with ďsuccessĒ in coaching & management in this county? If Iím honest, i wouldnít know what the criteria would be for a director role (apart from 1. St Johnís man 2. Head of PE in Rathmore  ;D) but without starting negatively itís a good step forward that we have one. Neal Pedan went into the same role in hurling and itís fair to say we have moved on in that code so hopefully we can see similar progress.
Finally, we appointed a management recently that are fairly green and who havenít yet had success (to my knowledge). Theyíve done rightly so far.

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« Reply #21647 on: September 17, 2021, 10:42:15 PM »
I've been a strong advocate that we need a capable  person to fulfil this function, and a strong experienced group around him to deliver the bottom line targets that makes the post or position worth fulfilling.

I'm going to wait and see how this plays out, who made the appointment, what the remit us, what is the budget, the plan around it, who else is involved.... and so on. It's not even official yet, so we are discussing something that may not even be real.

If this stacks up I will give any man my support, especially if it's done in a wholly voluntary position. If it's anything less, especially if it's been delivered on a nod and a wink then it's as good as over before it starts!

The devil is in the detail. Let's wait and see how this plays out. Plenty of time for analysis/opinion then!


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« Reply #21648 on: September 17, 2021, 10:47:28 PM »
Whoah hold up. There is a degree of concern as to whether this is a voluntary role? From a Portglenone man?

Now, that is new light through an old window.

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« Reply #21649 on: September 17, 2021, 11:12:39 PM »
Well there's another way of putting it. If it's a good gael doing this for free, then you can't say too much. If it's a paid position then the level of due diligence to find the right candidate goes to another level, as does the scrutiny of credibility, as does the performance.

I'd expect this to be provided for free. I don't think Neil Peden is being reimbursed!

This make more sense?

Sure let's not hammer away at this until the facts emerge. Early days on this development.

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« Reply #21650 on: September 17, 2021, 11:29:02 PM »
One would think people who get any such role as Ďdirectorí must have success in terms of playing, but more importantly in coaching and management ? Does he ? If he does then he will get the respect, iif he doesnít then itís a disaster!! Credibility comes from success in sport
I donít disagree with your point but the question leading from your post is are we blessed with ďsuccessĒ in coaching & management in this county? If Iím honest, i wouldnít know what the criteria would be for a director role (apart from 1. St Johnís man 2. Head of PE in Rathmore  ;D) but without starting negatively itís a good step forward that we have one. Neal Pedan went into the same role in hurling and itís fair to say we have moved on in that code so hopefully we can see similar progress.
Finally, we appointed a management recently that are fairly green and who havenít yet had success (to my knowledge). Theyíve done rightly so far.

I have no irons in the fire, seen this in the Irish news today,and the reason for my comment was what I have seen with this individual in down coaching circles is no success, has he had any school success ?? Club success with St. Johnís ?? I donít know these things . A DOF is a good concept but
Not working In down currently either need the right man !!


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« Reply #21651 on: September 17, 2021, 11:49:42 PM »
Can only be a good thing.

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« Reply #21652 on: September 17, 2021, 11:54:45 PM »
Well there's another way of putting it. If it's a good gael doing this for free, then you can't say too much. If it's a paid position then the level of due diligence to find the right candidate goes to another level, as does the scrutiny of credibility, as does the performance.

I'd expect this to be provided for free. I don't think Neil Peden is being reimbursed!

This make more sense?

Sure let's not hammer away at this until the facts emerge. Early days on this development.
Thatís interesting. You said that you would give support especially to a person who was doing it voluntarily. That is very noble. An ideology underpinned by the founding principles of our association.
How often in the last 10 years has your own club paid an outside manager?
There is nothing wrong with doing that by the way as we are often told that there are many clubs that simply donít have anyone within their club capable of managing a senior team.
How many members of your club have flown their kite as paid managers with other clubs in the last 10 years?

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« Reply #21653 on: September 17, 2021, 11:55:13 PM »
Can only be a good thing.

Anything is better than nothing
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« Reply #21654 on: Today at 12:14:16 AM »
Look this is very straightforward. If this is a paid position the job would have been advertised, clubs would have been notified and given time to nominate, and there would be a sub committee set up to make sure the process was transparent.

I'm waiting on the detail emerging on this, the official line so to speak. Was it in today's IN? Anyone care to post it up if so?

We need this position filled badly. There's no doubt about that. That's one thing that's beyond debate!

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« Reply #21655 on: Today at 12:24:00 AM »
Look this is very straightforward. If this is a paid position the job would have been advertised, clubs would have been notified and given time to nominate, and there would be a sub committee set up to make sure the process was transparent.

I'm waiting on the detail emerging on this, the official line so to speak. Was it in today's IN? Anyone care to post it up if so?

We need this position filled badly. There's no doubt about that. That's one thing that's beyond debate!

Itís on there Twitter feed - yes you need the position filled but by a man that is a proven loser in coaching - as I said above great idea issue is getting the right personality/ person someone with success as a player/coach is key for people to respect that person will enda mc Ginley respect him?