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Title: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: johnnycool on September 09, 2021, 01:35:01 PM
With Liam Cahill staying at Waterford I see Tipp have moved for Colm Bonnar..

I wonder if that a "holding" appointment till Cahill sees out his time with Waterford.

Davy for Galway seems like madness for Galway and no word on Wexford as yet.

Cody, is he going to stay or call it a day?
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: seafoid on September 09, 2021, 05:34:40 PM
Davy Fitz is the José Mourinho of hurling
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: Owenmoresider on September 09, 2021, 06:30:09 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 09, 2021, 01:35:01 PM
With Liam Cahill staying at Waterford I see Tipp have moved for Colm Bonnar..

I wonder if that a "holding" appointment till Cahill sees out his time with Waterford.

Davy for Galway seems like madness for Galway and no word on Wexford as yet.

Cody, is he going to stay or call it a day?
Darragh Egan is taking on that job, they announced that last week.
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2021, 09:45:01 PM
Not sure on tipp's appointment at all. I actually think Davy could, though short term, put a bit of life into a team that needs it and should be doing so much better.
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: seafoid on September 10, 2021, 06:28:58 AM
Not sure Galway would have the money for him
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: johnnycool on September 10, 2021, 10:04:35 AM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 09, 2021, 06:30:09 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 09, 2021, 01:35:01 PM
With Liam Cahill staying at Waterford I see Tipp have moved for Colm Bonnar..

I wonder if that a "holding" appointment till Cahill sees out his time with Waterford.

Davy for Galway seems like madness for Galway and no word on Wexford as yet.

Cody, is he going to stay or call it a day?
Darragh Egan is taking on that job, they announced that last week.

You're right, forgot about that. Those Tipp lads get about.

Waterford, Antrim and now Wexford and probably a few others coaching in the lower tiers.

Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2021, 04:20:13 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 10, 2021, 10:04:35 AM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 09, 2021, 06:30:09 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 09, 2021, 01:35:01 PM
With Liam Cahill staying at Waterford I see Tipp have moved for Colm Bonnar..

I wonder if that a "holding" appointment till Cahill sees out his time with Waterford.

Davy for Galway seems like madness for Galway and no word on Wexford as yet.

Cody, is he going to stay or call it a day?
Darragh Egan is taking on that job, they announced that last week.

You're right, forgot about that. Those Tipp lads get about.

Waterford, Antrim and now Wexford and probably a few others coaching in the lower tiers.

Where's Dinny Cahill these days? I was down Galway many years ago watching a Intermediate final (we were playing winners) he was looking after/coaching there, he's a cracking coach
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: seafoid on September 10, 2021, 07:03:35 PM
Tipp have a big rebuilding job ahead
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: rodney trotter on September 13, 2021, 09:20:47 PM
Kilkenny confirm that Brian Cody will remain as senior hurling manager in 2022, his 24th season in charge

Surely it was time for Cody to step down?
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: burdizzo on September 13, 2021, 11:22:41 PM
Why? Surely Kilkenny have over-achieved this past few years? Two Leinster titles in a row, and an all-Ireland appearance in 2019?
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: rodney trotter on September 14, 2021, 04:51:15 AM
Tyrone made the All Ireland final in 2018 but was the right decision to bring in a new management this year. Kilkenny are a good bit off Limerick so what's the motives?

Kilkenny were helped by Dublin missing 4 or 5 through in this year's Leinster final
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: johnnycool on September 14, 2021, 08:22:42 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 14, 2021, 04:51:15 AM
Tyrone made the All Ireland final in 2018 but was the right decision to bring in a new management this year. Kilkenny are a good bit off Limerick so what's the motives?

Kilkenny were helped by Dublin missing 4 or 5 through in this year's Leinster final

Cody has earned the right to go on his own time of choosing but I don't believe he hasn't adapted well to the new way hurling is being played and the win your own ball mantra for the forwards isn't working for Kilkenny for two reasons.

They don't have the same standard of players at their disposal to be able to do that and the top teams just won't allow one on ones to develop in those areas.
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: laoislad on October 20, 2021, 06:06:22 PM
Shefflin the new Galway manager apparently..
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 20, 2021, 06:32:30 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 20, 2021, 06:06:22 PM
Shefflin the new Galway manager apparently..

Seen that on RTE. Cody keeping him out of the KK job. Told to go out on Loan?
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: seafoid on October 20, 2021, 06:33:04 PM
Could be a smart move by Galway.
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: johnnycool on October 21, 2021, 09:17:23 AM
Quote from: seafoid on October 20, 2021, 06:33:04 PM
Could be a smart move by Galway.

It's the better option than Davy Fitz even if Shefflin managing at this level is an unknown entity.


Fitz's man management style went out years ago.

Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: seafoid on October 21, 2021, 12:32:41 PM
A loss for the cats. Wasn't Shefflin favourite to take over from Cody eventually ?
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: seafoid on October 21, 2021, 12:33:58 PM
You would expect more steel and less cricket hurling from Galway next year
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: seafoid on October 21, 2021, 04:49:20 PM
2022 odds

Chasing pack starts at 9/1

https://www.valuechecker.co.uk/hurling/hurling/all-ireland-hurling-championship-2022-84/all-ireland-hurling-championship-2022-191/win-hurling-999750000/best/
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: seafoid on October 21, 2021, 04:59:07 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-40726065.html
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: johnnycool on October 22, 2021, 11:23:35 AM
Quote from: seafoid on October 21, 2021, 04:59:07 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-40726065.html

Try too hard to be the Kevin Cashman of the 2020's that lad.
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: Armagh18 on October 22, 2021, 11:38:31 AM
Quote from: seafoid on October 21, 2021, 12:32:41 PM
A loss for the cats. Wasn't Shefflin favourite to take over from Cody eventually ?
He probably still will at some stage. No harm cutting his teeth at inter county level with Galway.
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: seafoid on October 22, 2021, 12:04:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 22, 2021, 11:23:35 AM
Quote from: seafoid on October 21, 2021, 04:59:07 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-40726065.html

Try too hard to be the Kevin Cashman of the 2020's that lad.
A nice change from sports journalism business as usual i mo thuairim
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: Kidder81 on August 22, 2022, 12:56:11 PM
Donoghue in as Dublin manager, good appointment you would think
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: seafoid on August 22, 2022, 01:40:39 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 22, 2022, 12:56:11 PM
Donoghue in as Dublin manager, good appointment you would think
A big catch for Dublin.  Should make Leinster more interesting next year
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: johnnycool on August 22, 2022, 03:45:26 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 22, 2022, 12:56:11 PM
Donoghue in as Dublin manager, good appointment you would think

Good appointment for Dublin, pressure on him to deliver as they are very inconsistent, capable of big results one day, only to get caught on the hop the next one.
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: seafoid on August 22, 2022, 03:58:35 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 22, 2022, 03:45:26 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 22, 2022, 12:56:11 PM
Donoghue in as Dublin manager, good appointment you would think

Good appointment for Dublin, pressure on him to deliver as they are very inconsistent, capable of big results one day, only to get caught on the hop the next one.
I think they are in a period of transition, finding it hard to get the blend right. Kilkenny hammered them this year.
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: johnnycool on August 22, 2022, 04:23:56 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 22, 2022, 03:58:35 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 22, 2022, 03:45:26 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 22, 2022, 12:56:11 PM
Donoghue in as Dublin manager, good appointment you would think

Good appointment for Dublin, pressure on him to deliver as they are very inconsistent, capable of big results one day, only to get caught on the hop the next one.
I think they are in a period of transition, finding it hard to get the blend right. Kilkenny hammered them this year.

Yeah, but they beat Wexford in Wexford who went on to beat Kilkenny in Kilkenny only proves my point even more..

Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: seafoid on August 22, 2022, 06:31:13 PM
Their scoring rates let them down. The ledger for the 3 matches vs KK and Wexford was very negative. Wexford only lost by a point or so vs KK. Dublin lost by 19 or so
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 22, 2022, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 22, 2022, 12:56:11 PM
Donoghue in as Dublin manager, good appointment you would think

Won the All Ireland for Galway but it was Waterford instead Kilkenny, Limerick they played in the final and the ground work for that Galway team was done by Anthony Cunningham
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: seafoid on August 22, 2022, 09:48:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 22, 2022, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 22, 2022, 12:56:11 PM
Donoghue in as Dublin manager, good appointment you would think

Won the All Ireland for Galway but it was Waterford instead Kilkenny, Limerick they played in the final and the ground work for that Galway team was done by Anthony Cunningham
AC couldn't win the all Ireland despite 2 attempts. Donoghue added the necessary elements to his team eg Daithi Burke  and got over the line.
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: Bord na Mona man on August 23, 2022, 02:32:43 PM
A lot of mileage will be clocked up on the M6 by Donoghue and his team.
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: johnnycool on August 23, 2022, 03:24:18 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 22, 2022, 09:48:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 22, 2022, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 22, 2022, 12:56:11 PM
Donoghue in as Dublin manager, good appointment you would think

Won the All Ireland for Galway but it was Waterford instead Kilkenny, Limerick they played in the final and the ground work for that Galway team was done by Anthony Cunningham
AC couldn't win the all Ireland despite 2 attempts. Donoghue added the necessary elements to his team eg Daithi Burke  and got over the line.

Sorting out No3 and No6 was definitely key to Galway getting over the line.
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: seafoid on August 23, 2022, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 23, 2022, 03:24:18 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 22, 2022, 09:48:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 22, 2022, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 22, 2022, 12:56:11 PM
Donoghue in as Dublin manager, good appointment you would think

Won the All Ireland for Galway but it was Waterford instead Kilkenny, Limerick they played in the final and the ground work for that Galway team was done by Anthony Cunningham
AC couldn't win the all Ireland despite 2 attempts. Donoghue added the necessary elements to his team eg Daithi Burke  and got over the line.
Hanbury at #3 was one of the reasons the 2015 AIF was lost

Sorting out No3 and No6 was definitely key to Galway getting over the line.
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: johnnycool on August 26, 2022, 10:47:29 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 23, 2022, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 23, 2022, 03:24:18 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 22, 2022, 09:48:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 22, 2022, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 22, 2022, 12:56:11 PM
Donoghue in as Dublin manager, good appointment you would think

Won the All Ireland for Galway but it was Waterford instead Kilkenny, Limerick they played in the final and the ground work for that Galway team was done by Anthony Cunningham
AC couldn't win the all Ireland despite 2 attempts. Donoghue added the necessary elements to his team eg Daithi Burke  and got over the line.
Hanbury at #3 was one of the reasons the 2015 AIF was lost

Sorting out No3 and No6 was definitely key to Galway getting over the line.

Hanbury was left out to dry by being left one on one with Callanan in the semi-final, Galway scraped past. Kilkenny didn't make the same mistake but Hanbury had a better final than semi-final if the truth was told.
Tannian at centre back had a poor second half as well didn't help.
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: seafoid on August 26, 2022, 01:43:26 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 26, 2022, 10:47:29 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 23, 2022, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 23, 2022, 03:24:18 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 22, 2022, 09:48:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 22, 2022, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 22, 2022, 12:56:11 PM
Donoghue in as Dublin manager, good appointment you would think

Won the All Ireland for Galway but it was Waterford instead Kilkenny, Limerick they played in the final and the ground work for that Galway team was done by Anthony Cunningham
AC couldn't win the all Ireland despite 2 attempts. Donoghue added the necessary elements to his team eg Daithi Burke  and got over the line.
Hanbury at #3 was one of the reasons the 2015 AIF was lost

Sorting out No3 and No6 was definitely key to Galway getting over the line.

Hanbury was left out to dry by being left one on one with Callanan in the semi-final, Galway scraped past. Kilkenny didn't make the same mistake but Hanbury had a better final than semi-final if the truth was told.
Tannian at centre back had a poor second half as well didn't help.
With a bit of luck/more cuteness either the 12 or 15 team could have broken the hoodoo. It took an exceptional team to win in 2017 and that was the end of the cycle because Limerick appeared next. I think the next decent Galway team will win more. On the shoulders of giants etc.
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: johnnycool on September 06, 2022, 03:09:42 PM
Johnny Kelly in the Offaly job.

Is that everyone sorted?
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: Ash Smoker on September 23, 2022, 10:00:04 AM
Joe Fortune stays on in Westmeath. I'd say he will be in contention for the Wexford job next time.
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: johnnycool on July 20, 2023, 01:47:03 PM
Darragh Egan gone from Wexford.

Would the yella bellies poach fellow Tipp man Darren Gleeson from Antrim?
Title: Re: Hurling managerial merry-go-round
Post by: seafoid on August 25, 2023, 04:39:20 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 20, 2023, 01:47:03 PM
Darragh Egan gone from Wexford.

Would the yella bellies poach fellow Tipp man Darren Gleeson from Antrim?
Not surprising after the year Wexford had on the verge of relegation.
A bit like Everton. There may be a repeat.

Gleeson is going well in Antrim and may not fancy the Wexford rebuild.