What do you think of the new championship structure so far ?

Started by seafoid, June 02, 2023, 05:58:17 PM

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seafoid

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

markl121

Feels like a holding pattern waiting for the croke park games

pbat

Puts a serious financial pressure on supporters,

seafoid

Losing early in the provincial championships is an advantage in the first round of the group stage.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Blowitupref

Too soon to fully judge yet, The positive was that every game in one round in the group stage was competitive which was a improvement on the mis-matches we had in the Super 8s.  I think congested nature is the biggest issue, every team should have at least two weeks between every game as championship games especially ones played in the heat are very energy sapping.

The main negative is underage competitions gets lost within it all but what can be done when every Inter County competition must be finished before August?
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

thewobbler

Quote from: seafoid on June 02, 2023, 07:30:48 PM
Losing early in the provincial championships is an advantage in the first round of the group stage.

This year it has.

Next year the provincial champions will storm out of the gates in the AI series and everyone will tell us it's because they're match fit and battle hardened.

For that was the popular opinion in the alternate years, the first 10 years of the back door, before most people cottoned on that sometimes  teams get up for games and sometimes they don't - their path through the draw isn't relevant.

Manning18

Loving it. Potentially the only thing I'd change is 2 getting out from the groups over 3. But still, every weekend there's heaps of football on that I want to watch

Il never understand the attitude of wanting less top level football, to basically going back to seeing your teams and other rival teams playing once or twice a championship. In top level Soccer we see the biggest teams play twice a week for around 30 weeks of the year. A large portion of those games have miniscule importance to the overall picture but doesn't stop people tuning in

In American football, we see teams play for 17 weeks, week on week, until the 'real stuff ' starts with the playoffs. A team can know they're in the playoffs by week 10, and all they've to play for from there is a top seed and bye week (similar to our groups), and yet every game is taken seriously and the fans are still bananas for it.

Over here, if every game isn't a straight knockout it supposedly doesn't matter. We're spitting fire that our best and most successful team might have to play a mere 8 or 9 games to win in a season

Eamonnca1

I only sat down and diagrammed it yesterday. Only now do I understand it. Will do an infographic to share.

SaffronSports


Eamonnca1

Quote from: SaffronSports on June 03, 2023, 12:44:48 AM
Money racket. 24 matches to eliminate four teams....

One more time: The GAA is not a profit-making commercial organisation that pays revenue out to shareholders. The money is reinvested in communities and you can download the annual report to see where it goes.

lenny

Quote from: SaffronSports on June 03, 2023, 12:44:48 AM
Money racket. 24 matches to eliminate four teams....

I like the idea of it. If only 2 teams were to go through in each group it could lead to a really good team going out unfairly eg Mayo beat Kerry in the first game, mayo already qualified put out a complete reserve team for last game and Kerry get eliminated as a result. We want to see the very best teams in the last 4. Last season Derry got a record points total in division 2 but weren't promoted because an already promoted Galway side put out a reserve side v Roscommon. That's why it's good that 3 go through, to avoid that kind of scenario.

Rossfan

A League of Ireland soccer team plays 36 League and maybe 3 or 4 Cup games over 9 months.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

seafoid

Quote from: lenny on June 03, 2023, 09:08:52 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on June 03, 2023, 12:44:48 AM
Money racket. 24 matches to eliminate four teams....

I like the idea of it. If only 2 teams were to go through in each group it could lead to a really good team going out unfairly eg Mayo beat Kerry in the first game, mayo already qualified put out a complete reserve team for last game and Kerry get eliminated as a result. We want to see the very best teams in the last 4. Last season Derry got a record points total in division 2 but weren't promoted because an already promoted Galway side put out a reserve side v Roscommon. That's why it's good that 3 go through, to avoid that kind of scenario.
That happened Kerry in 2018
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

AustinPowers

Quote from: lenny on June 03, 2023, 09:08:52 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on June 03, 2023, 12:44:48 AM
Money racket. 24 matches to eliminate four teams....

I like the idea of it. If only 2 teams were to go through in each group it could lead to a really good team going out unfairly eg Mayo beat Kerry in the first game, mayo already qualified put out a complete reserve team for last game and Kerry get eliminated as a result. We want to see the very best teams in the last 4. Last season Derry got a record points total in division 2 but weren't promoted because an already promoted Galway side put out a reserve side v Roscommon. That's why it's good that 3 go through, to avoid that kind of scenario.

Put the provincial  winners in to the QFs automatically  and  have the other 12  teams in 4 groups of three, therefore  getting rid of any dud games  you'd get in a  4 team group

24 games  is  far too much to  get rid of 4 teams , probably  3 of which  you'd pick out  before it all started (ie. Sligo Westmeath Louth). 

As for the  best teams in the last 4,   you're always  likely to get a Dublin Kerry Mayo in a semi ..  an outsider  (even  though they'd be  top 16) like  Clare Cavan Louth or  Meath,  they'd be destroyed facing  one of those.  The top 3 or 4 are so  far ahead  it's ridiculous.  Teams ranked 10 or 11  (or even higher) have as much hope  as Kilkenny  winning Sam.  Getting  beat is one thing , but not  able even to compete is  another.  There's something  grotesque about that

seafoid

The point of it is more games for every team. Losing 4 after 3 rounds ignores the fact that another 4 go after the next round of matches.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU