Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?

[general_lee]

I'd love a return to KO football. But until the clubs in group 2 realise they're getting eaten at Christmas whether they're a turkey or a goose, it ain't going to happen.

The same, already-eliminated Mullaghbawn team stuffed by 20 pts yesterday evening also managed to dethrone the reigning champions last season under straight knockout. Go figure!

[LeoMc]

In Tyrone, league position determines the championship a team will play in the following year. The league is one big round robin. The only thing missing is seeding of the knock out draw.

[seafoid]

Prenty wants provincial winners to go straight to qf. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
After 6 weeks off they would be more likely to  get hammered by the seasoned teams coming off the 3 game round robin with say a 2 week break .
The provincial satraps  are losing their power.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/09/01/top-gaa-official-calls-for-automatic-access-to-all-ireland-quarter-finals-for-provincial-winners/

[Rossfan]

Might be worth a thought (only 1 mind you) if there were 4 good competitive Provincial competitions rather than 2 and 2 training spins for Dublin and Kerry.
Otherwise Foxtrot Oscar JP !

[Eire90]

That is basically the same format as old backdoor only replacing  it with a group stage   we need to forget provincials why should we be rewarding teams in unbalanced provinces does this guy not realize  his proposal is the basically the old backdoor system. also with the state of the provincials currently your practically giving kerry and dublin a bye to the quarters about 80 or more  percent of the time.

[johnnycool]

That is basically the same format as old backdoor only replacing  it with a group stage   we need to forget provincials why should we be rewarding teams in unbalanced provinces does this guy not realize  his proposal is the basically the old backdoor system. also with the state of the provincials currently your practically giving kerry and dublin a bye to the quarters about 80 or more  percent of the time.

This guy realises the provincial championships have lost their value to both players and supporters and attendances have probably been impacted. Lower attendances reduces their revenue stream for coaches and staff with that county, it's nothing to do with the betterment of the sport.

[seafoid]

That is basically the same format as old backdoor only replacing  it with a group stage   we need to forget provincials why should we be rewarding teams in unbalanced provinces does this guy not realize  his proposal is the basically the old backdoor system. also with the state of the provincials currently your practically giving kerry and dublin a bye to the quarters about 80 or more  percent of the time.

This guy realises the provincial championships have lost their value to both players and supporters and attendances have probably been impacted. Lower attendances reduces their revenue stream for coaches and staff with that county, it's nothing to do with the betterment of the sport.

Power and influence

[seafoid]

I think that the 3 matches in the round robin brought certain teams like Roscommon,  and Cork on, even if they didn't make it to the endgame. Over the medium term this should help competition, especially if Meath can also step up. 

The end of Roscommon's championship had a lot more positivity than previous years , I think. It seems that teams that struggled with glass ceilings have a better idea of what to aim for.  And new progressive managers like Corey , Burke and Meenagh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rIq_p8Btzg&t=6180s

[seafoid]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2023/0905/1403501-gaa-to-decide-on-august-all-ireland-football-final/

[Eire90]

ireland is too small to reward teams based on geography  you could say clubs are different as they dont have finances to be  driving up and down country regularly. 

[Cunny Funt]

I think that the 3 matches in the round robin brought certain teams like Roscommon,  and Cork on, even if they didn't make it to the endgame. Over the medium term this should help competition, especially if Meath can also step up. 

The end of Roscommon's championship had a lot more positivity than previous years , I think. It seems that teams that struggled with glass ceilings have a better idea of what to aim for.  And new progressive managers like Corey , Burke and Meenagh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rIq_p8Btzg&t=6180s

Any such positivity came from a 3rd place Div 1 finish when strongly tipped for relegation, beating Mayo in MacHale Park and drawing with Dublin in Croke Park in the championship.  The exit was pretty much the same as last year, missing out on a quarter final place when losing by 1 point to a team they were expected to beat so that ending wouldn't have brought any positivity.

[seafoid]

I think that the 3 matches in the round robin brought certain teams like Roscommon,  and Cork on, even if they didn't make it to the endgame. Over the medium term this should help competition, especially if Meath can also step up. 

The end of Roscommon's championship had a lot more positivity than previous years , I think. It seems that teams that struggled with glass ceilings have a better idea of what to aim for.  And new progressive managers like Corey , Burke and Meenagh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rIq_p8Btzg&t=6180s

Any such positivity came from a 3rd place Div 1 finish when strongly tipped for relegation, beating Mayo in MacHale Park and drawing with Dublin in Croke Park in the championship.  The exit was pretty much the same as last year, missing out on a quarter final place when losing by 1 point to a team they were expected to beat so that ending wouldn't have brought any positivity.

I had the feeling that they knew they didn't perform on the last day and that they were able to say why. Roscommon used to be strongly correlated with Cavan but they seem to be in a stronger position now.

[Rossfan]

Positivity ended after the Croke Park game as we had a pretty poor June.
Next year do we say feck the League, try our damndest to win Connacht and then let the AI take care of itself?

[APM]

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/niall-morgan-292262?fbclid=IwAR044NrwpUSJLyveR3ZSrBkH0U0UFxH2Nh-yA9_vjLI2dBHbDzYFyBIjVJg

One of the benefits of the slit season apparently.

[seafoid]

Positivity ended after the Croke Park game as we had a pretty poor June.
Next year do we say feck the League, try our damndest to win Connacht and then let the AI take care of itself?

They lost to Kildare by a magnificent sideline point in the last minute and seemed to run out of gas against Cork. They also lost by a point.
If there had been a 2 week break between the Round robin and the preliminary qf it may have been different.
I think they should focus on the league and the championship and forget about Connacht.