Ulster U20 and Minor Championships 2024

Started by Captain Obvious, March 22, 2023, 05:58:04 PM

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Too many steps

Quote from: Truth hurts on April 27, 2023, 08:48:16 AM
Quote from: Estimator on April 26, 2023, 09:02:19 PM
Questions have to be asked about how that Down team were handled at minor level. They are a serious outfit.

From the 2020 minor semifinals only Kerry have made it back. Down, Sligo and Kildare have replaced Derry, Roscommon and Meath.

Covid 19 pandemic ?

CV19 definitely a big factor - from memory that game was played at height of it.

There were several Down players isolating in the run up to the game.

Also the stop/start nature of competition that year was disheartening for the players. I remember at the time motivation was hard to maintain for the players - even if you won the match there was a lot of doubt at the time whether the competition would proceed any further.

Very depressing time looking back.

Plus it was one of those days where nothing clicked on the field for Down - happens sometimes.

I'm sure Fermanagh might have had a lot of the same issues going on, but on the day they got their tactics right (very defensive set up- forced Down into a lot of low percentage shooting) and got the result.

Walter Cronc

Apologies if wrong page but how does the minors work now after group stage? Top 2 in each group into semis or group winners meet in final?

Is the final before the senior game in clones?

mrdeeds

Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 29, 2023, 09:15:54 PM
Apologies if wrong page but how does the minors work now after group stage? Top 2 in each group into semis or group winners meet in final?

Is the final before the senior game in clones?

8 teams in qf. Only bottom team in 5 team group eliminated.

Captain Obvious

Starts this weekend. Group format instead of knock out. Tier 2 competitions for more game for every team.

Round 1 – Sat 9th March

Section A

Antrim v Tyrone at  Dunsilly
Down v Derry at Páirc Esler

(Monaghan Bye)

Section B

Cavan v Donegal at Kingspan Breffni (March 13th for that game)

Fermanagh v Armagh at  St Josephs Park, Ederney

 

Round 2 – Wed 20th March

Section A

Tyrone v Down at Healy Park

Monaghan v Antrim at Castleblayney

(Derry Bye)

 

Round 3 – Wed 27th March

Section A

Down v Monaghan at Páirc Esler

Derry v Tyrone at Owenbeg

(Antrim Bye)

Section B

Armagh v Cavan at Athletic Grounds

Donegal v Fermanagh at  Ballybofey

 

Round 4 – Wed 3rd April

Section A

Antrim v Down at Dunsilly

Monaghan v Derry at Castleblayney

(Tyrone Bye)

 

Round 5 – Wed 10th April

Section A

Tyrone V Monaghan at Healy Park

Derry v Antrim at Owenbeg

(Down Bye)

Section B

Donegal v Armagh at  Ballybofey

Fermanagh v Cavan at Brewster Park

 

U20FC Quarter Finals – Wed 17th April

(First named team has home advantage)

Group A Runner-Up V Third in Group B

Group B Runner-Up V Third in Group A

 

U20FC Semi Finals – Wed 24th April

(First named team has home advantage)

(1) Winner Section A V QF Winner

(2) Winner Section B V QF Winner

 

U20FC Final –  Wed 1st / Fri 3rd May

Semi Final Winner 1 V Semi Final Winner 2

 

Tier 2 (Draw to take place between three teams after group stages)

Semi Final – Mon 22nd April

Team that did not qualify V One of QF Losers

 

Final – Mon 29th April

SF Winner V 3rd Team

 

Tier 1 & Tier 2

All-Ireland Semi Finals on 11/12 May

Goals_Will_Come

Tyrone favorites for Ulster and All Ireland? Still survivors from 2022 team and rest made up of the recent school successes. The new format should also suit them as they can't be caught out on the first day out.

Milltown Row2

Seen Derry play Dublin last Sat at the Dub, there was some physical difference between the two, Haven't seen Tyrone but they would have to be pretty decent to beat that Dublin team if you are making them favourites for All Ireland
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

God14

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2024, 01:43:01 PMSeen Derry play Dublin last Sat at the Dub, there was some physical difference between the two, Haven't seen Tyrone but they would have to be pretty decent to beat that Dublin team if you are making them favourites for All Ireland

MR i take it Dublin won that then?

Derry struggled at u17 back in 2021, but as we all know, thats not always a good barometer. 

Milltown Row2

Quote from: God14 on March 07, 2024, 01:49:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2024, 01:43:01 PMSeen Derry play Dublin last Sat at the Dub, there was some physical difference between the two, Haven't seen Tyrone but they would have to be pretty decent to beat that Dublin team if you are making them favourites for All Ireland

MR i take it Dublin won that then?

Derry struggled at u17 back in 2021, but as we all know, thats not always a good barometer. 

With a bit to spare, but very competitive, just Dublin were more clinical with the goal chances.. Just a challenge game and you'd take nothing from that of course, but teams are at different stages in their prep and its all about the  championship
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Blowitupref

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2024, 01:43:01 PMSeen Derry play Dublin last Sat at the Dub, there was some physical difference between the two, Haven't seen Tyrone but they would have to be pretty decent to beat that Dublin team if you are making them favourites for All Ireland

Probably plenty of the Dublin 2022 minor team on that U20 team. They won Leinster before losing narrowly to the All-Ireland champions to be Galway. 
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

onefineday

Quote from: Blowitupref on March 07, 2024, 02:22:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2024, 01:43:01 PMSeen Derry play Dublin last Sat at the Dub, there was some physical difference between the two, Haven't seen Tyrone but they would have to be pretty decent to beat that Dublin team if you are making them favourites for All Ireland

Probably plenty of the Dublin 2022 minor team on that U20 team. They won Leinster before losing narrowly to the All-Ireland champions to be Galway. 
Derry lost to the same Galway team by 1pt in the all Ireland semi-final that year too.

onefineday

Quote from: God14 on March 07, 2024, 01:49:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2024, 01:43:01 PMSeen Derry play Dublin last Sat at the Dub, there was some physical difference between the two, Haven't seen Tyrone but they would have to be pretty decent to beat that Dublin team if you are making them favourites for All Ireland

MR i take it Dublin won that then?

Derry struggled at u17 back in 2021, but as we all know, thats not always a good barometer. 
Don't know if struggled is the right term. They lost a first round game by 1pt after leading most of the game. Straight knock out, so that was that.
They also played about 1 week after winning the previous year's all Ireland minor, with same management team, so preparation was unlikely to be the best and iirc a few key lads were covid isolating too.

snoopdog

Quote from: onefineday on March 08, 2024, 11:38:12 PM
Quote from: God14 on March 07, 2024, 01:49:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2024, 01:43:01 PMSeen Derry play Dublin last Sat at the Dub, there was some physical difference between the two, Haven't seen Tyrone but they would have to be pretty decent to beat that Dublin team if you are making them favourites for All Ireland

MR i take it Dublin won that then?

Derry struggled at u17 back in 2021, but as we all know, thats not always a good barometer. 
Don't know if struggled is the right term. They lost a first round game by 1pt after leading most of the game. Straight knock out, so that was that.
They also played about 1 week after winning the previous year's all Ireland minor, with same management team, so preparation was unlikely to be the best and iirc a few key lads were covid isolating too.

So Derry are hot favourite for todays game v Down in Newry?

statto

Are any games in Ulster streamed today?

Gazboy


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