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GAA Discussion / Re: Club AGM - No one going forward for chairperson
« on: January 07, 2022, 01:58:43 PM »
Pay someone to do it.

FFS - the answer to everything in the modern GAA.

GAA Discussion / Re: FBD 2022
« on: January 04, 2022, 10:29:50 AM »
Throw in times brought forward because of 8pm government restrictions for anything indoors. Looks like just 300 supporters will be able to attend these matches indoors compared to 5,000 if they were played outdoors.

Leitrim v Sligo is now scheduled for January 3rd.

Did the ball hit the roof at any stage last night I wonder?

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2021
« on: December 20, 2021, 11:53:34 AM »
It's a shame that the provincial competitions at least couldn't be finished before Christmas. There is something a bit anti climatic about having to wait until January now for the provincial finals. It sucks a bit of the momentum out of a competition and I actually think that the club AI series should be finished up within the calendar year. Hopefully the split season will resolve this issue.

No excuse for this given that inter-county in Ulster (bar Tyrone) finished on 31 July, Tyrone was finished on 14 November and there were no replays. County boards running round-robin and league based championships and drawing out their championship season is a major part of the problem.

First round proper could have been played on the 28 November instead of waiting until 5 December.  Very unfair on players having to wait until after Christmas.  Playing the first round, semi-final and final on successive weeks would have been better although not ideal.

General discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency
« on: December 16, 2021, 11:02:44 AM »
can the taxman inspect cold wallets  ;D

which is probably where you should be keeping it if you have any sense

Cold wallets only serve to hold your private keys as such, although more secure, you are no less visible as a holder. KYC from your centralised exchange can be used to track you at the fiat on-ramp stage onwards, and on-chain analysis is pretty routine at this stage to track holders. One of the arguments for bitcoin is its transparency of ledger. There are ways to 'wash' crypto out there but a simple fiat to btc to fiat path can be tracked regardless of wallet type. Btc bought p2p or with a proxy buyer, or privacy coins such as monero are the route some may turn to for evasion

That's an important point.  Some of the questions / comments here are effectively about tax evasion, dressed up as a harmless game of cat and mouse.   

General discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency
« on: December 15, 2021, 06:15:50 PM »
How would Paschal Donohoe find out that I've made a profit on bitcoin?
Sorry if that's a silly question.

How would he find out if you made a few quid on a rented property?  How would he find out if you had a Ä50k capital gain on a second home?

If you had a tax inspection presumably.

General discussion / Re: Odious People
« on: December 02, 2021, 02:41:45 PM »
Pretty depressing thread
Says a lot about the mentality of many of the GAABoard members when we have threads like this getting so many replies in a short state of time

GAA Discussion / Re: 2022 Fixtures - anyone?
« on: November 15, 2021, 12:42:02 PM »
That link seems to be going nowhere now?

You mightn't be missing much. As Maddog says, Armagh and Mayo are down to play on a Tuesday - I think that's a first  :o

GAA Discussion / Re: 2022 Fixtures - anyone?
« on: November 15, 2021, 11:38:29 AM »

Don't know how accurate that is as there are no fixtures posted for Div 2.

There'll be none played in MacHale Park. Which is a pity.

Am surprised to see Monaghan down to play Armagh in Blaney 

GAA Discussion / Re: 2022 Fixtures - anyone?
« on: November 15, 2021, 11:25:13 AM »

Don't know how accurate that is as there are no fixtures posted for Div 2.

GAA Discussion / Re: if you could rename your club
« on: November 08, 2021, 03:23:33 PM »
Some great names out there, like Fighting Cocks, Lord Edwards, Raperees:

What about:
The Wangers (after the great Crossmaglen)
The Hallions, as in Poyntzpass Hallions

GAA Discussion / Re: Congress
« on: October 25, 2021, 05:37:00 PM »

How did the GAA end up rejecting the one vehicle for change on the table?
For a start the body that devised it, the Calendar Fixtures Task Force, had effectively been disbanded and in any case divided over what it wanted. Having started two years ago with two more or less equal proposals, the task force saw motion 18, their Option A - four eight-county, provincial based groups - fall without a word being spoken either for or against.
Lacking a coherent sponsor, the surviving reform lacked energy apart from the campaign mounted by the Gaelic Players Association in more recent weeks.
Yet listening to the debate with its 22 speakers - split 13-9 against the motion - it was impossible not to be struck by how well the proposition was presenting the case. From the start when former president John Horan took to the podium, the advocacy of those supporting change was persuasive.
Horan set out his feelings of disappointment that the Calendar Fixtures Task Force, which he had appointed, had split into camps and addressed perceived issues with the proposal, saying that he didnít, ďthink the financial worry thatís out there for people is what itís portrayed to beĒ.

Thematically the basic argument was made by Cork Central Council delegate Tracey Kennedy. ďFears and concerns about change are absolutely natural but if we look in our hearts nobody can say that the current structure is serving the majority of counties well.Ē

ďOur footballers told us in no uncertain terms that if something doesnít change you wonít see us again. Thatís the reality. They left Castlebar in despair. Talking about crowds attending games, as county secretary I was dealing with ticket allocations for that game. Family members werenít even there to support them. Thatís how lonely it was. Thatís what the current system is providing for the footballers of Leitrim. Itís now time to be brave,Ē - Leitrim secretary Declan Bohan

Because the alternative had major flaws. You can't propose changes and expect people to close their eyes and jump knowing that their is flaws in what your proposing. If it happened in business you'd be shown the door.

Regarding Ulster counties reluctance to change... we have a great championship, why would Ulster counties vote to remove a championship that both fans and players love simply because other provincial championships are failing. Since 2009 - All nine Ulster counties got to a final, 4 counties have won it, and Armagh and Derry seem poised to challenge again in the next couple of years.

It was noticeable that the hurling recommendations kept the Leinster and Munster championships in tact and kept them meaningful.

Also, there a number of changes that were due to come into effect for the 2022 season. Changes that hadn't been implemented yet. It's like a shit show where there seem no logical thinking behind this.

There are two major issues at the moment, Dublin's dominance in Leinster, and Kerry's in Munster and the impact on other counties.

I thought their was a proposal a couple years back to play the championships during the league, so the weaker counties still had something to play for right up to the end of the intercounty season. Did it die a death too? That would have kept all counties playing competitive football up to the end of the season

Unfortunately you are wrong there.  Embarrassingly Armagh haven't contested a final since they won in 2008!

GAA Discussion / Re: Congress
« on: October 21, 2021, 07:39:36 PM »
Don't blame them. The most consistent team outside of Dublin in the championship in the last 5-10 years is liable to be excluded from the opportunity to progress to the AIQF because they don't finish in the top 5 of the league. People can dress it up any way they like, but that is the reality. 

Outside of Dublin, Kerry and potentially Tyrone, I don't know why any division 1 team would support it.

GAA Discussion / Re: Congress
« on: October 21, 2021, 07:01:08 PM »
Percentage of USFC Games with a winning margin of 10pts or more from 1975 to 2000 was roughly 17%. From 1975 to 1979 the figure was 25%.  Lots of 8 and 9 points beatings on top of that also.  Doesn't mean much. 

GAA Discussion / Re: Congress
« on: October 21, 2021, 06:08:29 PM »

Niall McCoy

One amendment I'd like for Proposal B. Top 6 in D1 remain involved rather than 5. If you avoid traditional relegation spots in top tier your season should continue. Add in fourth in D2 and have four preliminary qfs. Basically 12 teams advance to knockouts rather than 10.  #GAA

He's going in the right direction, but...

The top four teams in Division 2 means 2 teams progressing that weren't even able to get out of Division 2.  But, the two teams that were relegated from Division 1, who have played against top class opposition all year, are ruled out.  Usually one team in Division 1 is hopeless, but another might get relegated by the skin of their teeth.  Fourth place in Division 2 is just 2 places off relegation.  In 2016 Fermanagh were 4th in Division 2 on 6 points.  The same year Armagh were relegated on 6 points. 

My point is that finishing 7th in Division 1 may (not always) be a much better performance than finishing 3rd or 4th against weaker opposition in Division 2.

You're right, but I'll argue the toss anyway

Relegation = demotion to Grade 2

The only departure I would like is that Provincial winners should be in the race for Sam, so if you win the Province and finish bottom of D1 then you're relegated to D2 for the following year but in the Sam

If you win the Sam, you're still in D2

Could the imbalance between having 3 or 4 home games be sorted by having a Divisional weekend in Croke

3 home, 3 away, 1 in Croke

4 Div 4 games in Croke one Saturday
4 Div 3 games in Croke the next
4 Div 2 the next
4 Div 1 the next

or something like that, thinking from a marketing and player experience point of view it could work quite well

What kind of numbers would a quadruple header Super Saturday draw per division do you reckon?

Of course it could be split across 2 days, say the Fri/Sat, but feck that, any opportunity to get close to a full house should be explored

Instead of Super 8 your Super Saturday is then getting to a place where players are being treated with a lot more parity of esteem and respect for their efforts

While everyone is putting forward theories none of them are up for review in congress. It's either option A,B or stick with what we have. People may not like option b, but it's an improvement on the current system. I can't see why anyone (other than provincial councils) would want to keep the current system as that's what will happen at the weekend if options and b don't get 60% support.

No one is claiming option b is perfect but for those who don't think it should be passed this weekend might suggest why we should keep things as they are. It'll be at least two years of the current broken system if the current proposals aren't passed.

You are saying let's not make perfect the enemy of good.  It's not as if Option B is good.   
No point going from one broken system to a worse system on the basis that change is necessary, anything is better than what we have.  I do not know how on earth these proposals were arrived at, but it will not fix the problems we have and to put this scutter to congress only wastes an opportunity.

GAA Discussion / Re: Congress
« on: October 21, 2021, 05:00:52 PM »
One of the best things about championship is the straight knockout. Proposal B means only 10 teams get to enjoy this. This is not enough. Some teams will get a go in the tier two comp, but the remaining teams will not. All teams should have a knockout chance either for Sam Maguire or the tier two comp. League format will benefit the Counties with a big panel with strength in depth. Mid tier counties who could cause an upset won't get the chance in a one off. Sorry it is a pure effort of an improvement

Agree with this also. 

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