Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

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Jim Bob

Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on August 14, 2022, 05:18:43 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on August 13, 2022, 09:08:08 AM
Wheels seems to have come off in Omagh in recent weeks.. have they injuries or what, was Meyler back last night?

Conor still in the United States. Arriving home next Saturday morning.

What's keeping him? His Fianna team mate home during the week there.

Baile an tuaigh

Doing a training camp in San Jose.

Under Lights

Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 14, 2022, 04:34:54 PM
Coalisland thirds have pulled out of Division 3, they've handed walkovers to all remaining opponents. Still down to play Drumquin in the 1st Round of the JFC.

Hopefully thats an end to thia nonsense. County board need to have a serious think when allowing these teams to make a joke of the junior league.

Baile an tuaigh

Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 14, 2022, 05:28:17 PM
Stewartstown's 2-22 to 1-19 win over Aghaloo means that it's their Division 3 league title to lose now, one point ahead of Strabane & three points ahead of Aghaloo with three rounds to play with the head-to-head against both. Also, Glenelly's 0-12 to 0-11 win over Drumragh is a big boost to them in looking to secure a promotion play-off spot.

Did Gareth Devlin play today for Stewartstown?

clarshack

Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on August 14, 2022, 06:33:50 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 14, 2022, 05:28:17 PM
Stewartstown's 2-22 to 1-19 win over Aghaloo means that it's their Division 3 league title to lose now, one point ahead of Strabane & three points ahead of Aghaloo with three rounds to play with the head-to-head against both. Also, Glenelly's 0-12 to 0-11 win over Drumragh is a big boost to them in looking to secure a promotion play-off spot.

Did Gareth Devlin play today for Stewartstown?

Came on as a sub.

clarshack

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Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 14, 2022, 05:28:17 PM
Stewartstown's 2-22 to 1-19 win over Aghaloo means that it's their Division 3 league title to lose now, one point ahead of Strabane & three points ahead of Aghaloo with three rounds to play with the head-to-head against both. Also, Glenelly's 0-12 to 0-11 win over Drumragh is a big boost to them in looking to secure a promotion play-off spot.

Good win for us today to stay in front but there's a couple of away games that aren't certainties due to the local derby nature of them, and Derrytresk in particular has always been a difficult place to go for us. And you only have to look at Aghyaran blowing the Division 2 league title last season to know that you can't take anything for granted. Having said that I'd rather be in our position than Strabane or Aghaloo this evening.

Mikhailov

Quote from: Under Lights on August 14, 2022, 06:10:50 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 14, 2022, 04:34:54 PM
Coalisland thirds have pulled out of Division 3, they've handed walkovers to all remaining opponents. Still down to play Drumquin in the 1st Round of the JFC.

Hopefully thats an end to thia nonsense. County board need to have a serious think when allowing these teams to make a joke of the junior league.

What teams are you referring to?

Tyrone11234

Quote from: Mikhailov on August 14, 2022, 07:33:03 PM
Quote from: Under Lights on August 14, 2022, 06:10:50 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 14, 2022, 04:34:54 PM
Coalisland thirds have pulled out of Division 3, they've handed walkovers to all remaining opponents. Still down to play Drumquin in the 1st Round of the JFC.

Hopefully thats an end to thia nonsense. County board need to have a serious think when allowing these teams to make a joke of the junior league.
What teams are you referring to?

Coalisland obviously

Norf Tyrone

Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 14, 2022, 09:34:20 PM
Quote from: clarshack on August 14, 2022, 06:50:42 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 14, 2022, 05:28:17 PM
Stewartstown's 2-22 to 1-19 win over Aghaloo means that it's their Division 3 league title to lose now, one point ahead of Strabane & three points ahead of Aghaloo with three rounds to play with the head-to-head against both. Also, Glenelly's 0-12 to 0-11 win over Drumragh is a big boost to them in looking to secure a promotion play-off spot.

Good win for us today to stay in front but there's a couple of away games that aren't certainties due to the local derby nature of them, and Derrytresk in particular has always been a difficult place to go for us. And you only have to look at Aghyaran blowing the Division 2 league title last season to know that you can't take anything for granted. Having said that I'd rather be in our position than Strabane or Aghaloo this evening.

Stewartstown's last three league games are against Killyman, Derrytresk & Brocagh - even allowing for derby atmospheres, that's three clubs that have nothing to play for other than pride right now in the league. Funnily enough Strabane's last three league games are against the same three clubs, just in a different order. If Stewartstown succumb to a loss against any of those three having remained unbeaten so far, I'll be shocked.


Quote from: Under Lights on August 14, 2022, 06:10:50 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 14, 2022, 04:34:54 PM
Coalisland thirds have pulled out of Division 3, they've handed walkovers to all remaining opponents. Still down to play Drumquin in the 1st Round of the JFC.

Hopefully thats an end to thia nonsense. County board need to have a serious think when allowing these teams to make a joke of the junior league.

Maybe Coalisland will try and regroup their efforts to field a third string for 2023 but it looks like that ain't gonna happen. I'm repeating myself here, but to field a thirds team in the Tyrone ACFL then you need a seriously deep & committed panel of players locally to be competitive. Errigal Ciaran are the only club so far to have made it work. Carrickmore failed to do so, it's almost certain Coalisland will meet the same fate here while time will tell with Donaghmore. As it is, if your club has a surplus of players who'd like to field a competitive third team then they presently need to know what they're letting themselves in for - if they're essentially a drinking team with a football problem then they'll end up getting massacred. Perhaps the county board should be sounding out to the bigger clubs as to wherever some sort of third-team competition should be organised for players who'd rather play more recreationaly in a tournament etc. at their level rather than needing to commit to playing in the ACFL?

When you see the squad size Donaghmore have had at underage the last few years, there is probably a chance that they can sustain a decent 3rds team.

By the way, good to see you posting regularly again Fionntamhnach, on here. Always good discussion points, and information from yourself.
Owen Roe O'Neills GAC, Leckpatrick, Tyrone

Under Lights

Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 14, 2022, 09:34:20 PM

Maybe Coalisland will try and regroup their efforts to field a third string for 2023 but it looks like that ain't gonna happen. I'm repeating myself here, but to field a thirds team in the Tyrone ACFL then you need a seriously deep & committed panel of players locally to be competitive. Errigal Ciaran are the only club so far to have made it work. Carrickmore failed to do so, it's almost certain Coalisland will meet the same fate here while time will tell with Donaghmore. As it is, if your club has a surplus of players who'd like to field a competitive third team then they presently need to know what they're letting themselves in for - if they're essentially a drinking team with a football problem then they'll end up getting massacred. Perhaps the county board should be sounding out to the bigger clubs as to wherever some sort of third-team competition should be organised for players who'd rather play more recreationaly in a tournament etc. at their level rather than needing to commit to playing in the ACFL?

Fully agree with this, I think sometimes the Division 1 clubs underestimate the quality that is in the junior division. These teams coming into it with recreational purposes and diluting that league and making a joke of it. Maybe if you spilt junior into D3 and D4 it would be better. If a coalisland thirds team didn't exisit would the likes of Brackaville and Killyman benefit from a few extra players who do want to take it seriously? Same with Ballygawley.


trailer

Quote from: Under Lights on August 15, 2022, 06:27:24 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 14, 2022, 09:34:20 PM

Maybe Coalisland will try and regroup their efforts to field a third string for 2023 but it looks like that ain't gonna happen. I'm repeating myself here, but to field a thirds team in the Tyrone ACFL then you need a seriously deep & committed panel of players locally to be competitive. Errigal Ciaran are the only club so far to have made it work. Carrickmore failed to do so, it's almost certain Coalisland will meet the same fate here while time will tell with Donaghmore. As it is, if your club has a surplus of players who'd like to field a competitive third team then they presently need to know what they're letting themselves in for - if they're essentially a drinking team with a football problem then they'll end up getting massacred. Perhaps the county board should be sounding out to the bigger clubs as to wherever some sort of third-team competition should be organised for players who'd rather play more recreationaly in a tournament etc. at their level rather than needing to commit to playing in the ACFL?

Fully agree with this, I think sometimes the Division 1 clubs underestimate the quality that is in the junior division. These teams coming into it with recreational purposes and diluting that league and making a joke of it. Maybe if you spilt junior into D3 and D4 it would be better. If a coalisland thirds team didn't exisit would the likes of Brackaville and Killyman benefit from a few extra players who do want to take it seriously? Same with Ballygawley.

What is needed is an over 35s recreational league / Go Game idea. Bit of craic. Not too serious but organised on a Saturday evening. You can't play if you've played Senior or Reserve football. Lets boys keep playing without the commitment. Running April to June and the Sept and Oct. Play whatever aside you can field.

clarshack

Quote from: trailer on August 15, 2022, 09:43:51 AM
What is needed is an over 35s recreational league / Go Game idea. Bit of craic. Not too serious but organised on a Saturday evening. You can't play if you've played Senior or Reserve football. Lets boys keep playing without the commitment. Running April to June and the Sept and Oct. Play whatever aside you can field.

This is exactly what is needed, and they had this in place around 2011 but I think it was pulled due to insurance reasons. Could a workaround be for players to have their own insurance?
I can mind also there was one team who took the piss and played a few of their current reserve players at the time, so there would need to be sanctions for anyone caught pulling a stunt like that.

clarshack

Quote from: Under Lights on August 15, 2022, 06:27:24 AM
Fully agree with this, I think sometimes the Division 1 clubs underestimate the quality that is in the junior division. These teams coming into it with recreational purposes and diluting that league and making a joke of it. Maybe if you spilt junior into D3 and D4 it would be better. If a coalisland thirds team didn't exisit would the likes of Brackaville and Killyman benefit from a few extra players who do want to take it seriously? Same with Ballygawley.

The top half of Division 3 is very strong for Junior football.

DownFanatic

In Down there is the Premier Reserve Football League, Division 1 and 2, with a Premier Reserve Football Championship too. The teams in this would mostly be the second string from the clubs in Division 1 and 2 of the senior leagues. Then there is the Reserve Football League, Division 1 and 2, with a Reserve Football Championship. Teams in this would mostly be the second string from the clubs in Division 3 and 4 of the senior leagues and the third string from some of the biggest clubs in the county. They have also brought in subsiduary championships for those knocked out in the early stages of the PRFC and RFC. Gives a few more competitive games.

Premier Reserve football in the county is fixed for 5pm on a Saturday evening. Reserve football is at 6pm on a Sunday evening. However, the amount of forfeits in the latter over the past number of years has been staggering and that's even at 13-a-side.

There has been some talk that second string teams are going to be brought into the senior league setup in Down and initially go into Division 4. It's been near 30 years since this was last done and the proposal for it has been lukewarm to date.

Under Lights

Galbally Pearses(---)v(---)An Eaglais, Naomh Pádraig


Massive game in the title race in D2