Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?

Started by full moon, May 07, 2022, 12:15:48 PM

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Earlier Championship

Success
60 (37.3%)
Failure
67 (41.6%)
Too early to say
34 (21.1%)

Total Members Voted: 161

shark

Quote from: Eire90 on October 05, 2023, 02:44:59 AMohh is that why dublin is 16 teams a few years ago it was 32 team knockout i think with first round losers going into a consulation senior b championship

Yes, they were forced to change due to directive from HQ.
They could easily rename the second tier Intermediate, and send the winners in to the Leinster Intermediate (would have been Vincents last year). But there doesn't seem to be any appetite to do that.

Rossfan

Quote from: Eire90 on October 05, 2023, 02:46:45 AMi think i seen tyrone might have 24 teams at one point my be wrong on that tho.

I read somewhere Tipp had 42 SH Clubs around the turn of the Century.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

LeoMc

Quote from: shark on October 05, 2023, 10:46:43 AM
Quote from: Eire90 on October 05, 2023, 02:44:59 AMohh is that why dublin is 16 teams a few years ago it was 32 team knockout i think with first round losers going into a consulation senior b championship

Yes, they were forced to change due to directive from HQ.
They could easily rename the second tier Intermediate, and send the winners in to the Leinster Intermediate (would have been Vincents last year). But there doesn't seem to be any appetite to do that.

It is an anomaly that does not take account of a County's playing population.
At least Dublin have the decency not to send a big club like St Vincent's, nominally their 16th best club, into the Intermediate club all Ireland. Whereas Kerry will sent their 9th best team in to it as 8/16 Senior championship slots are taken by Divisional sides.

Brendan

6 concerts for Croker next year, another example of the success of the split season  ;D

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Brendan on November 14, 2023, 08:18:54 PM6 concerts for Croker next year, another example of the success of the split season  ;D

Four Cold play, one Bruce Springsteen concerts confirmed and the 6th one rumoured to be AC/DC. Certainly wouldn't be able to have that amount of concerts in Croke Park if the All Ireland series was still scheduled in August/September

Eire90

was there suppose to be plans to finish the all Ireland club championship by Christmas so will club season have to start a few weeks earlier.

seafoid

Quote from: Eire90 on November 18, 2023, 12:22:16 AMwas there suppose to be plans to finish the all Ireland club championship by Christmas so will club season have to start a few weeks earlier.

That is still the goal AFAIK

Rossfan

12 Clubs out of 2,500 having to play in January is no big deal.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Eire90

So will the plans be to play the all Ireland club finals on the sunday before xmas every year except if that sunday is xmas eve as i dont think players and fans would want to be going to croke park on an xmas eve.I Think maybe they could  play the finals on st stephens day kind of how they tried to make st patricks day a thing but i dont know  if players want to play on stephens day as they  have to easy on xmas day stuff.

smort

If you've got an allireland final on St Stephens day then I don't think you would mind taking it easy on Christmas day

seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on November 18, 2023, 11:51:54 AM12 Clubs out of 2,500 having to play in January is no big deal.
The overlap is still a problem if intercounty players are involved. Club takes too long to run off.

seafoid

No matches should be played in December.
Starting matches at 1.30 because there is no light at 4 is a symptom of the problem.
Club championships have to be standardised.

Eire90

Are most matches at this time of year not at venues with lights or can they not afford to put them on

Rossfan

I see the Provincial Councils (2 of them anyway) want Provincial Champions to go straight to Quarter Finals.
Why don't they just let Kerry and Dublin through to the AI Final?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Eire90

And what happens to teams that did not win provincial do they play in group matches  that just the same as the old system only you are having a group stage backdoor instead of knockout .