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One big but fair hit on Eugene Brannigan changed that game today in Scotstowns favour, took Brannigan out of the game and showed they were in a game. After that big personalities pulled them to victory, Hughes, Beggan, McCarron and McCarthy. Kilcoo missed Jerome massively

As an outsider it seems absurd that the Down County Board would change the Ref, especially since Kilcoo lost out with their Disputes Resolution appeal. sets a bad precedent. I obviously don't know the cause of the objections, but it beggars belief that any one trying to make it as a national ref would make any statements about stopping a Club winning championships. It will be interesting to see how the Referees respond.

There will be no response, it will be forgotten about in a few weeks and they will all start next season as if it didn't happen. Kilcoo won't suffer, the only person who will suffer is Faloon, he reputation in tatters due to this appeal, zero backing from Down CB or his peers in referees Committee. Wouldn't be surprised if he gave up on the refereeing or went to another county, as its a joke what went on. The phone calls to the county board over the past week would have been constant, threatening no doubt, and Lavery no doubt the ring leader

You would assume the county board and Higgins have a table left for them in Quinns with the Kilcoo team. Absolute disgrace what they get away with, should just have to play the game no matter who the referee was, and if didn't like it, the ball thrown in without them, shocking that county board bow down every time, just shocked that Niall Brannigan wasn't playing too

Legends each and everyone of them

Anyone wants to know what Kilcoo are like, just watch their supporters on this forum 👆, all cut from the same cloth. Every team has an ethos to win at all costs, but to he a gypsy to others which could affect mental and physical health is a low blow and a level I would prefer my team never go to. Win at all costs is within the rules of the game. With Kilcoos Facebook post, I would assume they know them, as willing to mention it to bulk out their ass covering post.

The Kilcoo Facebook statement and comments are actually ridiculous, they do this to look whiter than white, and to make people think they are innocent, as all evidence points as Clonduff being the guilty party. The comments under the post saying people make this stuff up as nothing good in their lives and jealous, they aren't actually stopping to think  that these verbals possibly did happen and brought serious issues to someone whos life was maybe starting to look a little brighter as time passes, so instead they bring it up on a football field to slate someone and spark a reaction then act like they did nothing. Surely if they that good, winning should be possible without the need for cowardly slating others to get a rise.

Maybe it's all true, Kilcoo player wrongly gouges eye of Clonduff player, Clonduff players take matters into own hands, over the top initially, Kilcoo players decide not to act to preserve place in team for final but verbals used (as has happened many times in past) to provoke the opponents further, actions now seem more understandable and spark further reaction which makes clonduff look bad. Kilcoo can then take moral high ground claiming victimisation, when they are nowhere near innocent

Few things to say about this game want to first start off by stating that I would attend many a club championship games through tyrone derry Armagh and yourselves in down last night. I decided to miss good games in tyrone as I thought this game would be a classic. I suppose I got to see the row (which was an utter disgrace and really has a negative affect on our games especially in the north).  Cush tactics tonight were bizarre at stages but clonduff just don't have the players. Have a few Anthony Joshuas and furys though.

Im not sure whether it is that kilcoo are just way too good or the rest of the teams are so bad?? From the games in tyrone and Armagh that I have watched this year I think kilcoo would have much tougher games in them championships as well in derry. This ultimately has an affect on your county teams. Down used to produce top top forwards that were from different clubs throughout the county? Where has that gone. Gaels go to watch the top forwards. In down yous just don't seem to have that. People pay money into watch the cananavsn, mccurys etc in tyrone, mcguigans in derry, o neills, turbitts and campbells in Armagh. Down just don't have that and it makes for sucha poor watch and ultimately is the reasoning why your county team aren't progressing. Kilcoo don't get tested due to this main reasoning.

Lets hope burren have a few forwards worth talking about

I've watched alot of down football, i think there are plenty of good forwards but the puke football tactics nowadays leave every forward with several lines of numbers in front of them, so have to beat that for winning the ball, then beat most of them again to get a score. Scores in big games with both teams playing well come from an odd off the shoulder run and snap shot, or frees, not too often it's a 1v1 and see what your made off. Eamon Brown, Jerome, Shealon, Andrew Gilmore, Pat Havern, Beatty, Barry ohagan, Cory Quinn, and plenty others are lethal forwards but tactics are getting worse, players scared to make mistake, so don't shoot

Bit harsh to deny Kilcoo's dominance of the game JB. I thought they came out with real intent, played fairly good football, use of kick pass to their full forward line which hasn't been seen much in SFC.
I just don't understand how it ended, there was no needle the whole way through, not even bad challenge.

I think you are right, there was no needle in game at all, maybe a reason Clonduff were soo toothless. Makes Brannigans tackle seem even more senseless but the Clonduff reaction was the same that most losing teams have, un needed but pure and utter frustration which boiled hot and heavy

The row started because darren o Hagan reacted to a clumsy high tackle from n brannigan. It wasnt that bad a tackle and the reaction from darren was way over the top which lead to the mellee. Clonduff knew at this point they were stuffed and resorted to cheap shots. Kilcoo did well to keep their heads...

Agree with most of this but that was not a tackle, it was a punch to the eye

Great performance from Kilcoo tonight, showed a lot of maturity not getting involved with the cowards from clonduff. If they had of shown a bit of fight at the start of the game they might of got a bit closer to Kilcoo. That will finish Darren now, a great servant for club and county but far to heavy now he can hardly move, they should play play eamon brown further out the field next year he looked like a big teapot standing in full forward one hand on his hip and the other pointing where he wants the ball. Number 15 is gutless

Clearly a kilcoo fan here who can't admit their own wrong doings, looking forward to reading the report for Brannigans red card over turn, I'm sure it will happen

Did I say something that wasn't the truth??

Kilcoo never got involved, how did the row start remind me?

Who went to Kilcoo dugout to start a melee? Like I said before it's that time of the year let's all bash Kilcoo! Clonduff forever the bridesmaids

Clonduff no doubt the bridesmaids but if you cannot admit that Nialls striking action caused the whole thing, you need to watch that game again, he has a bit of sense and the game ends a damp squib with a free that may have and may not have ended with a clonduff score, no reds and the only chat out of the game is how poor it was

Great performance from Kilcoo tonight, showed a lot of maturity not getting involved with the cowards from clonduff. If they had of shown a bit of fight at the start of the game they might of got a bit closer to Kilcoo. That will finish Darren now, a great servant for club and county but far to heavy now he can hardly move, they should play play eamon brown further out the field next year he looked like a big teapot standing in full forward one hand on his hip and the other pointing where he wants the ball. Number 15 is gutless

Clearly a kilcoo fan here who can't admit their own wrong doings, looking forward to reading the report for Brannigans red card over turn, I'm sure it will happen

Did I say something that wasn't the truth??

Kilcoo never got involved, how did the row start remind me?

Great performance from Kilcoo tonight, showed a lot of maturity not getting involved with the cowards from clonduff. If they had of shown a bit of fight at the start of the game they might of got a bit closer to Kilcoo. That will finish Darren now, a great servant for club and county but far to heavy now he can hardly move, they should play play eamon brown further out the field next year he looked like a big teapot standing in full forward one hand on his hip and the other pointing where he wants the ball. Number 15 is gutless

Clearly a kilcoo fan here who can't admit their own wrong doings, looking forward to reading the report for Brannigans red card over turn, I'm sure it will happen

Clonduff actions cannot be condoned, but have to question if Niall Brannigan has a single brain cell lashing out when winning by a hatful,caused that whole scene and caused himself a final place..... well at least until the legal team get in and get that overturned.

So Kevin Madden joins the famous Mayobridge club - a coach who has worked at top intercounty sides to work under Poacher. What is he thinking?

Down clubs offer the best expenses about.

Has to be purely about the money. Why else would anyone travel from Antrim 3/4 times a week to be involved with a team who have no chance of winning anything, never mind sharing the sideline with a mad man?

Lotto , you have anger issues and must be the best coach in the country as all you do is slate every coach going. Laverty/Coulter/Clarke/Poacher to name a few. Take a day off and quit with the personal attacks.

Mickey Harte took Kevin Madden with him to Tyrone so without knowing him I would hazard a guess that he is a good coach. Mickey Harte knows a lot know than the people on this board know about football. It's an interesting dynamic but without Quinn I can't see Mayobridge beating Burren or Kilcoo.

Worrying times for two of the traditional East Down superpowers who cannot get a manager over the line and its near December. Most clubs have met and began winter training in the gym.

A clubman managing their own club is a poison chalice and I understand why clubs go for outsiders. as a wise man once said "a prophet is not accepted in his own hometown"

Big division 1 clubs no manager either, Downpatrick and Clonduff yet to confirm appointments?

And who would these men be?

They were involved in my club not that long ago.

Recently in Co. Armagh?
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Sounds very much like McAleenans then