I recorded the GAA Gold from Sunday which dealt with all things 1989. I am too young to remember the whole thing. I appreciate there aren't as many Mayo posters here anymore, but those of you who do remember it, what was it like? Was the county in full on hype mode ala 1996? Was it one of those that got away finals? Or were Cork better than the 6 point winning margin? How much would 'Finnerty's miss' have put between the teams*?
* I believe Mayo were winning at that stage but stand to be corrected.
Fans from other counties opinions appreciated too of course, if ye read it.
I vaguely remember being at the semi final when Mayo beat Tyrone. I think Tyrone minors might have won but years blend together back then
All-Ireland Final 1989 Mayo v Cork on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0OT_jXgY4o
I went with my dad, a Mayo man in 1989. There was a sense that Cork were a notch above Mayo at that time. So we went in more hope than confidence. It reminded me of Tyrone in 1986 , in that even when Mayo were in ascendancy, you felt that they would need a slice of luck to get over the line.
Remarkable to compare Mayo's supporters' psyché going into that final with Down supporters 2 years later. We fully expected to win the All-Ireland despite coming from nowhere , to tackle a legendary Meath team on top of their game. Down again came out of nowhere in 2010 and should have got over the line. In Downs 6 all ireland appearances they had quality scoring forwards . Galway and Tyrone are of a similar ilk. Sadly , I think Mayo have lacked two things that are required to win All-Ireland's : belief and established flare forwards , and the two are intertwined . Conroy and O'Dinoghue were making the right waves but got injured. They'll be back and may be enough to get Mayo over the line eventually , but ultimately Mayo football needs to promote flare scoring forwards in club and county football . Aodhán O'shea's 2 yard handpasses aren't going to win Mayo N All-Ireland, but an on-fire Ryan o'Donoghue may well do so in the next couple of years.
Quote from: An Watcher on June 21, 2022, 09:59:13 PM
I vaguely remember being at the semi final when Mayo beat Tyrone. I think Tyrone minors might have won but years blend together back then
An excellent Derry minor team won the All-Ireland that year.
I sort of recall that everyone expected Cork to win after losing the previous 2 finals to Meath.
Wasn't this game shown live on Channel 4 as well?
I was at the game in the old Canal end! £6.50 for the ticket, i think!
Mayo played well and ran Cork close. But you could see the experience of Cork tell coming into the home stretch.
They knew how to close it out and they probably had a bit more fitness than Mayo.
I remember a homemade sign on the way to the game.
''38 years of famine to end''
Feck me it's nearly 38 years since 1989.
Cork had experience because they played 3 finals in a row. Mayo didn't get back into another final until 96. There was no way to build up a layer of cuteness if you were depending on Ulster to get to the all Ireland .
was at the game. Mayo played like they have played many time since and celebrated the occasion instead of trying to win a football game. Cork were there for the taking. In fairness that Cork team went on until their last legs so they had massive character. Remember watching them out on their feet after 25 mins against Derry in a final 93, Derry who hadnt a decent forward and 1 free taker and them still playing to the final whistle..
Farr youse robbed Roscommon in the Connacht final replay after extra time. To add insult to injury Jimmy Burke scored a bizarre goal, he knew nothing about.
Should have won the all Ireland V Cork, lady legs aka Anthony Finnerty scored a great goal at a key time. Alas youse chit the nest & lost the first of perhaps 30 All Irelands in a row.
Derry had a mighty minor team in 89, Roscommon lead by a point at half time in the semi, they destroyed us in the second.
Memories of that game for me include:
Jimmy Burke getting stretchered off was a hammer blow for Mayo
I always said McHale should have just taken his point before he laid off the pass to Finnerty for the missed chance
Cork had a sub come off the bench who scored 2/3 points
IIRC that Cork team have several players who passed away at a young age
Mayo lost Greg Maher just a few years ago
That Mayo team was like a FRED process. Fast rise in 89. Exponential decay afterwards. The 1993 semi against Cork was the purest facepalm.
Quote from: Rudi on June 22, 2022, 11:19:43 AM
Derry had a mighty minor team in 89, Roscommon lead by a point at half time in the semi, they destroyed us in the second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs9AlnBa4x0
http://derrygaa.ie/features/the-harvest-of-89/
Derry minor football panel 1989: Martin O'Connor, Jarlath Martin, Paddy McAllister, Gregory Simpson, Barry McGonigle, Gary Coleman, Roderick Skelly, Anthony Tohill, John Mulholland, Eamonn Burns, James Lynn, Rory McEldowney, Eunan O'Kane, Dermot Heaney, Declan Bateson, Ryan Murphy, Eugene Lynch, Feargal Kearney, Dermot Dougan, John O'Connor, Karl Diamond, Dolan O'Hagan, Michael O'Donovan.
7 who went on to win the All Ireland in 93?
Quote from: whitey on June 22, 2022, 11:32:39 AM
Memories of that game for me include:
Jimmy Burke getting stretchered off was a hammer blow for Mayo
I always said McHale should have just taken his point before he laid off the pass to Finnerty for the missed chance
Cork had a sub come off the bench who scored 2/3 points
IIRC that Cork team have several players who passed away at a young age
Mayo lost Greg Maher just a few years ago
John Kerins and Mick McCarthy? were there others?
Quote from: Wolfetones on June 22, 2022, 11:48:20 AM
Quote from: Rudi on June 22, 2022, 11:19:43 AM
Derry had a mighty minor team in 89, Roscommon lead by a point at half time in the semi, they destroyed us in the second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs9AlnBa4x0
http://derrygaa.ie/features/the-harvest-of-89/
Derry minor football panel 1989: Martin O'Connor, Jarlath Martin, Paddy McAllister, Gregory Simpson, Barry McGonigle, Gary Coleman, Roderick Skelly, Anthony Tohill, John Mulholland, Eamonn Burns, James Lynn, Rory McEldowney, Eunan O'Kane, Dermot Heaney, Declan Bateson, Ryan Murphy, Eugene Lynch, Feargal Kearney, Dermot Dougan, John O'Connor, Karl Diamond, Dolan O'Hagan, Michael O'Donovan.
7 who went on to win the All Ireland in 93?
Derry 1989, Laois 1997, Tyrone 1998 and the Kerry teams with David Clifford were the best Minor teams i've ever seen personally.
No disrespect but Derrys forward lines never convinced me. Fabulous defenders and midfield but forwards were never at the same level
Quote from: seafoid on June 22, 2022, 11:44:48 AM
That Mayo team was like a FRED process. Fast rise in 89. Exponential decay afterwards. The 1993 semi against Cork was the purest facepalm.
Like Galway 1983.
Quote from: rrhf on June 22, 2022, 09:12:10 AM
was at the game. Mayo played like they have played many time since and celebrated the occasion instead of trying to win a football game. Cork were there for the taking. In fairness that Cork team went on until their last legs so they had massive character. Remember watching them out on their feet after 25 mins against Derry in a final 93, Derry who hadnt a decent forward and 1 free taker and them still playing to the final whistle..
Cork were out on their feet because they were down to 14 men! Tony Davis getting a straight red for a shoulder!
Ai but if the ref had done it right Cahalane would have went minutes previous.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 22, 2022, 04:16:14 PM
Ai but if the ref had done it right Cahalane would have went minutes previous.
yes
Cork were robbed the first game game in 88 against Meath when Tommy Sugrue gave a phantom free to Meath with the last kick of the game with Cork a point ahead.
Tompkins was one of my hero's growing up, probably the best footballer of that era who dragged Cork over the line; I read his book recently, a highly driven character.
Cork were always going to win in 89, don't think they played well but probably had ideal opposition on the day.
Have vivid memories of the 1989 All Ireland Final due to personal reasons. My Grandfather was in hospital in Belfast on the run up to the final, and had confidently predicted to me earlier that week that Cork would win the All Ireland the following Sunday. Unfortunately he didn't live to see the final, with his funeral taking place on All Ireland Final Sunday.
Quote from: clarshack on June 22, 2022, 11:48:55 AM
Mayo lost Greg Maher just a few years ago
John Kerins and Mick McCarthy? were there others?
Mick McCarthy RIP was the sub that came on a was incredible probably his best game ever for Cork.
the game itself was a fair loss Cork that little bit better
much the same team had really put it up to Dublin in 1986 so they were no on hit wonders
AS for hype 1996 was not a patch on it ,this was the era of Byrnes babe's and it seemed normal.
Every bar house shop in the county seemed to be decorated
even after a massive crowd went to Knock airport to greet them. Good innocent times had we known what was to come......
In those days the only route to the final came around once every 3 years with a semifinal against an Ulster team.
The last decent Connacht team at that time was the Roscommon side of Dermot Earley and they could never build up the experience and cuteness to win Sam.
Mayo had to win on the day. Cork had more experience.
Mayo broke the system in 96 when they beat Kerry. It was unbelievable.
Quote from: rosnarun on October 13, 2022, 12:48:55 PM
Quote from: clarshack on June 22, 2022, 11:48:55 AM
Mayo lost Greg Maher just a few years ago
John Kerins and Mick McCarthy? were there others?
Mick McCarthy RIP was the sub that came on a was incredible probably his best game ever for Cork.
the game itself was a fair loss Cork that little bit better
much the same team had really put it up to Dublin in 1986 so they were no on hit wonders
AS for hype 1996 was not a patch on it ,this was the era of Byrnes babe's and it seemed normal.
Every bar house shop in the county seemed to be decorated
even after a massive crowd went to Knock airport to greet them. Good innocent times had we known what was to come......
Galway won Connacht in 1986.
The year you are thinking of is 1985. Not many came from the 1985 team.
Eugene Lavin; Martin Carney, Peter Forde, Dermot Flanagan; Frank Noone, John Maughan, John Finn; TJ Kilgallon, WJ Padden; Henry Gavin (0-1), Jimmy Burke, Noel Durcan (1-1); Kevin McStay (0-7, five frees, one '50'), Sean Lowry (1-0), Eugene McHale (0-2)
G Irwin; J Browne, P Forde,
D Flanagan; M Collins,
TJ Kilgallon,
J Finn; S Maher, L McHale (0-1); G Maher,
WJ Padden ,
N Durcan; M Fitzmaurice ,
J Burke,
K McStay (0-2). Subs: A Finnerty (1-0) for Burke, R Dempsey for S Maher, B Kilkelly for G Maher.
The rebirth of Mayo football started in Irvinestown with a victory over Derry in the U21 replayed final having beat Kerry in the Semi Final
John o Mahoney was manager
FINAL (REPLAY): Mayo 1-8 Derry 1-5 (Irvinestown, 30/10/1983). MAYO: Gabriel Irwin; Peter Forde (0-1), John Maughan, Eddie Gibbons; James McNabb, Micheal Feeney, John Finn; Sean Maher (1-0), Ger Geraghty (0-1); Padraig Brogan (0-3), Joe Lindsay, Noel Durcan (0-1); Brian Kilkelly (0-1), Tommy Grogan, Padraig Duffy. Subs: Kevin McStay for Lindsay, Martin Kearns (0-1) for Brogan.
In true Mayo form they coughed up a last minute goal in the drawn game in COS
Quote from: rosnarun on October 13, 2022, 12:48:55 PM
Quote from: clarshack on June 22, 2022, 11:48:55 AM
Mayo lost Greg Maher just a few years ago
John Kerins and Mick McCarthy? were there others?
Mick McCarthy RIP was the sub that came on a was incredible probably his best game ever for Cork.
the game itself was a fair loss Cork that little bit better
much the same team had really put it up to Dublin in 1986 so they were no on hit wonders
AS for hype 1996 was not a patch on it ,this was the era of Byrnes babe's and it seemed normal.
Every bar house shop in the county seemed to be decorated
even after a massive crowd went to Knock airport to greet them. Good innocent times had we known what was to come......
Cork played Dublin to a draw in 83. Kerry won 3 in a row between 84 -86. Meath started winning Leinsters in 86 .
Cork lost to Meath in the 87 and 88 finals. A bit like the run up to their 2010 win.
Quote from: whitey on October 13, 2022, 05:06:11 PM
The rebirth of Mayo football started in Irvinestown with a victory over Derry in the U21 replayed final having beat Kerry in the Semi Final
John o Mahoney was manager
FINAL (REPLAY): Mayo 1-8 Derry 1-5 (Irvinestown, 30/10/1983). MAYO: Gabriel Irwin; Peter Forde (0-1), John Maughan, Eddie Gibbons; James McNabb, Micheal Feeney, John Finn; Sean Maher (1-0), Ger Geraghty (0-1); Padraig Brogan (0-3), Joe Lindsay, Noel Durcan (0-1); Brian Kilkelly (0-1), Tommy Grogan, Padraig Duffy. Subs: Kevin McStay for Lindsay, Martin Kearns (0-1) for Brogan.
In true Mayo form they coughed up a last minute goal in the drawn game in COS
a very sloppy 14 yard free i think.
that bloodline still going strong 7 or 8 of the descendants played in yesterday's Semi Finals
what happen Jonny Maughan John son fr Castlebar is he injured this year or not around anymore?