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« Reply #9105 on: June 11, 2021, 07:32:42 AM »
Didn’t see first half v Hungary, so only catching up now that the Hungarian fans booed the Irish team for taking the knee.

What’s your thoughts on this?
The Hungarian leader is a right wing authoritarian gobshite like Netanyahu.
Taking the knee is seen as a left wing thing. So the fans were contrary.
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« Reply #9106 on: June 11, 2021, 12:08:31 PM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/brian-kerr-we-are-out-of-the-running-for-the-world-cup-already-1.4589994

“At the beginning,” said Kerr, “Stephen talked a lot about how he wanted to play. He wanted to dominate the ball in all areas of the pitch and he wanted us to play it out from the back, and he wanted us to be composed, and play through the thirds.

“That is fine but the likes of Finland, Bulgaria, Wales all sat off and let us try to do that build-up from the back and then they would set traps for us in the middle of the pitch.”

Another example was the early seconds in Budapest last Tuesday when Conor Hourihane and John Egan were both caught in possession perilously close to Gavin Bazunu’s goal.

“I am sure the whole process – the 13 matches – has helped them,” Kerr continued. “It has allowed Stephen to gain the experience and to become a bit more rational, I would say, and pragmatic when it comes to the tests of international football.

“It is not easy to win these games. You are not going to be able to control the ball against other international teams. I think that realisation has come along over time with the way the results have gone.

“In my view we are out of the running for the World Cup already,” Kerr continued. “It is going to take something very dramatic to turn that around. We are going to have to beat both Portugal and Serbia in September, unless Luxembourg continue to take points off these teams as they did to us in Dublin.”
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« Reply #9107 on: June 11, 2021, 12:43:29 PM »
Didn’t see first half v Hungary, so only catching up now that the Hungarian fans booed the Irish team for taking the knee.

What’s your thoughts on this?
The Hungarian leader is a right wing authoritarian gobshite like Netanyahu.
Taking the knee is seen as a left wing thing. So the fans were contrary.

I think it’s just become tedious and meaningless.

But like the poppy, if you don’t wear one, you’re a target for abuse. Wilfred Zaha stopped doing it,and that was grand, but if a white player declined to do it, he’d be labelled a racist.

We get it. People get racial abuse. But McClean continually gets sectarian abuse. Others get it for being ginger, bald, Scottish, Irish, Mexican, tall, short, fat, wearing glasses, etc.

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« Reply #9108 on: June 11, 2021, 12:46:29 PM »
Didn’t see first half v Hungary, so only catching up now that the Hungarian fans booed the Irish team for taking the knee.

What’s your thoughts on this?
The Hungarian leader is a right wing authoritarian gobshite like Netanyahu.
Taking the knee is seen as a left wing thing. So the fans were contrary.

I think it’s just become tedious and meaningless.

But like the poppy, if you don’t wear one, you’re a target for abuse. Wilfred Zaha stopped doing it,and that was grand, but if a white player declined to do it, he’d be labelled a racist.

We get it. People get racial abuse. But McClean continually gets sectarian abuse. Others get it for being ginger, bald, Scottish, Irish, Mexican, tall, short, fat, wearing glasses, etc.

Seriously?

You think this is about name-calling?

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« Reply #9109 on: June 11, 2021, 02:13:45 PM »
Didn’t see first half v Hungary, so only catching up now that the Hungarian fans booed the Irish team for taking the knee.

What’s your thoughts on this?
The Hungarian leader is a right wing authoritarian gobshite like Netanyahu.
Taking the knee is seen as a left wing thing. So the fans were contrary.

I think it’s just become tedious and meaningless.

But like the poppy, if you don’t wear one, you’re a target for abuse. Wilfred Zaha stopped doing it,and that was grand, but if a white player declined to do it, he’d be labelled a racist.

We get it. People get racial abuse. But McClean continually gets sectarian abuse. Others get it for being ginger, bald, Scottish, Irish, Mexican, tall, short, fat, wearing glasses, etc.

Seriously?

You think this is about name-calling?

No, but there are other forms of abuse directed at players (and in life in general), which seems to have been lost and forgotten about amid this BLM campaign.

I’m not saying it’s acceptable to racially abuse players, but neither is it acceptable to abuse them for their looks, build, being a certain nationality, etc.

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« Reply #9110 on: June 11, 2021, 03:55:39 PM »
Didn’t see first half v Hungary, so only catching up now that the Hungarian fans booed the Irish team for taking the knee.

What’s your thoughts on this?
The Hungarian leader is a right wing authoritarian gobshite like Netanyahu.
Taking the knee is seen as a left wing thing. So the fans were contrary.

I think it’s just become tedious and meaningless.

But like the poppy, if you don’t wear one, you’re a target for abuse. Wilfred Zaha stopped doing it,and that was grand, but if a white player declined to do it, he’d be labelled a racist.

We get it. People get racial abuse. But McClean continually gets sectarian abuse. Others get it for being ginger, bald, Scottish, Irish, Mexican, tall, short, fat, wearing glasses, etc.

I'd agree. Its populist shite. If players want to make a serious statement, all walk off the field or refuse to play games until the football authorities take some serious action. As you said, James McClean get sectarian anti irish abuse week in week out, why are his knee taking team mates refusing to play games where he gets abused? It smacks of Bono and Geldof, rich kids wanting to have a cause.

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« Reply #9111 on: June 11, 2021, 04:08:03 PM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/brian-kerr-we-are-out-of-the-running-for-the-world-cup-already-1.4589994

“At the beginning,” said Kerr, “Stephen talked a lot about how he wanted to play. He wanted to dominate the ball in all areas of the pitch and he wanted us to play it out from the back, and he wanted us to be composed, and play through the thirds.

“That is fine but the likes of Finland, Bulgaria, Wales all sat off and let us try to do that build-up from the back and then they would set traps for us in the middle of the pitch.”

Another example was the early seconds in Budapest last Tuesday when Conor Hourihane and John Egan were both caught in possession perilously close to Gavin Bazunu’s goal.

“I am sure the whole process – the 13 matches – has helped them,” Kerr continued. “It has allowed Stephen to gain the experience and to become a bit more rational, I would say, and pragmatic when it comes to the tests of international football.

“It is not easy to win these games. You are not going to be able to control the ball against other international teams. I think that realisation has come along over time with the way the results have gone.

“In my view we are out of the running for the World Cup already,” Kerr continued. “It is going to take something very dramatic to turn that around. We are going to have to beat both Portugal and Serbia in September, unless Luxembourg continue to take points off these teams as they did to us in Dublin.”

He's probably right. Who else read that with a strong Dublin accent?

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« Reply #9112 on: June 14, 2021, 03:52:08 PM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/siptu-members-in-fai-launch-new-plan-to-secure-football-s-future-1.4592238

Siptu members in FAI launch new plan to secure football’s future
‘Towards 2025’ document calls for inclusive structure and community-led development

Gavin Cummiskey


 
In the wake of former Republic of Ireland manager Brian Kerr bemoaning the FAI’s ongoing lack of “football expertise”, Siptu members working in the association have released a strategic plan with a “clear agenda” for the development of the game at community and high-performance levels.

“Our members employed in the FAI are passionate about the game,” said Siptu’s Martin O’Rourke on release of the “Towards 2025” document. “They are using their voice also on behalf of the numerous volunteers, who are the backbone of the sport across the country, to call for a new, inclusive FAI structure and community-led development of the game.”

The unionised FAI employees have also written to Minister for Sport Catherine Martin to highlight “the continued refusal of the management of the FAI to engage proactively with Siptu representatives”.

The 10-point plan would compel League of Ireland clubs to affiliate with every underage club in their catchment area to ensure “a common coaching and player development policy”.

“Soccer has progressed in this country due almost entirely to the grassroots clubs who start academies for kids from four years of age and upwards,” said Vincent Butler of Belvedere FC, the Dublin club that produced Wes Hoolahan and Troy Parrott. “This work is now being undermined by the actions of the FAI and League of Ireland clubs who take the most talented 12-year-olds from the grassroots clubs.

“The recent successes of Ireland under-21 teams at international level are due to the work of the grassroots clubs which is now being put in jeopardy.”

Crumlin FC’s Martin Loughran added: “It is time for all the stakeholders involved in soccer in Ireland to stop working against each other and instead work together.”

Kerr, speaking last week about the appointment of Packie Bonner as one of the FAI board’s six independent directors, was highly critical of the association’s recent governance review.

“The FAI badly needs someone with real leadership qualities around the place,” said Kerr. “I’m delighted to hear Packie is now part of the board.

“I understand they needed people with other skills on the board, but it’s the Football Association of Ireland – it has to include people who know about football, not just the administration of the game.”

When contacted by The Irish Times, FAI chairperson Roy Barrett said: “We are very comfortable with recent developments at the association including the election of a new general assembly and a new board, and the appointment of a new CEO. We have addressed both wage deferral and benchmarking issues and we are now deep into a strategy review process led by our CEO, Jonathan Hill, which has involved all FAI staff and will be part of a wider consultation process with the rest of our Irish football community. We are pleased to have made this progress but we are still very aware that this is only the start of our journey.”

Towards 2025 - 10 strategies to develop football in Ireland
1. A national stakeholders’ convention involving schoolboy leagues and League of Ireland clubs to discuss the implementation of a new premier and first division league.

2. A new underage League of Ireland involving schoolboy clubs around the country, for under-15 to under-19 teams with promotion and relegation and no age gaps.

3. A national residential academy for elite boys and girls, including a three-year full-time course incorporating the Leaving Certificate. The FAI Abbotstown campus in Dublin to act as a training base, with an educational institution catering for the Leaving Certificate. Players to return to play with their respective clubs at the weekend. A plan to progress to having Education and Training Boards (ETB) FAI academies around the country.

4. Development of a full-time transition year programme, including female-only soccer courses, with local authorities around the country.

5. Investment in Education and Training Boards (ETB) FAI courses which is the only dual-career education programme to ensure players’ employability prospects at end of their playing career. A girls-only ETB/FAI player development course to be established in major centres around the country.

6. Employment of a player welfare manager. Restore the duty of care system for players in this country, players abroad and for repatriated players.

7. An all-island premier league to be researched and implemented by 2025. First division to remain as is with promotion and relegation. An under-23s league to be established in the League of Ireland.

8. Schoolboy leagues to have a minimum amount of games every year. An agreed games calendar for boys and girls with a minimum amount of games agreed. Futsal (internationally recognised indoor five-a-side game) development centres and competitions to be established.

9. League of Ireland clubs to affiliate with every underage club in their area for the development of a common coaching policy/player development strategy.

10. A major strategic and employment plan to develop a football/futsal ethos in primary and secondary schools around the country, involving FAI development officers, League of Ireland clubs and grassroots clubs.
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« Reply #9113 on: June 14, 2021, 11:56:44 PM »
Didn’t see first half v Hungary, so only catching up now that the Hungarian fans booed the Irish team for taking the knee.

What’s your thoughts on this?
The Hungarian leader is a right wing authoritarian gobshite like Netanyahu.
Taking the knee is seen as a left wing thing. So the fans were contrary.

I think it’s just become tedious and meaningless.

But like the poppy, if you don’t wear one, you’re a target for abuse. Wilfred Zaha stopped doing it,and that was grand, but if a white player declined to do it, he’d be labelled a racist.

We get it. People get racial abuse. But McClean continually gets sectarian abuse. Others get it for being ginger, bald, Scottish, Irish, Mexican, tall, short, fat, wearing glasses, etc.

Seriously?

You think this is about name-calling?

No, but there are other forms of abuse directed at players (and in life in general), which seems to have been lost and forgotten about amid this BLM campaign.

I’m not saying it’s acceptable to racially abuse players, but neither is it acceptable to abuse them for their looks, build, being a certain nationality, etc.
Yes but a bit of slagging over red hair is comparable with centuries of the Black African experience of   Imperialistic  slavery,  racism, abuse, and to this day in almost every sphere of life?
Benny  what you are referrin to is called white man's racism and seriously  do you think it's in the same ballpark?

And I'm with James 100%