Ulster Workers Strike 2024

Started by trailer, January 15, 2024, 12:55:19 PM

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bennydorano

Quote from: armaghniac on January 16, 2024, 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 16, 2024, 05:23:39 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 16, 2024, 05:08:58 PM
Quote from: LC on January 16, 2024, 05:03:24 PMWonder what the  GDP of the north is, I imagine it is pretty sh@t.

Never seems to be too many pharmaceutical and / or tech companies busting to get set up in NI and offering jobs at £40 -£50k+ salaries.

NI GVA per capita 2020    €26,785 (£23,035)
ROI GDP per capita 2020 €75,170

this difference is in these high tech places, smaller companies would not be so different.
GDP numbers like those are regularly shredded as a lot of it is corporate money  in transit to their US Overlords.

The GDP is accurate, that measures production and production value is high even if it is owned by shareholders resident elsewhere. If you want a measure of income then neither of these values is appropriate.
Not contesting that at all, GDP can be a blunt tool to measure overall economic wellbeing is all.

RedHand88

Question. Would people want pay parity with England if it meant paying for prescriptions, water rates etc like they do there?

Armagh18

Quote from: RedHand88 on January 16, 2024, 07:31:08 PMQuestion. Would people want pay parity with England if it meant paying for prescriptions, water rates etc like they do there?
I don't think England is anything to aspire to, is it?

armaghniac

Quote from: RedHand88 on January 16, 2024, 07:31:08 PMQuestion. Would people want pay parity with England if it meant paying for prescriptions, water rates etc like they do there?

They are looting the education system so people can waste water and drugs.



If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

RedHand88

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 16, 2024, 08:43:08 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 16, 2024, 07:31:08 PMQuestion. Would people want pay parity with England if it meant paying for prescriptions, water rates etc like they do there?
I don't think England is anything to aspire to, is it?

Is that not what the pay dispute is about? Pay parity with England?

markl121

Would happily introduce prescription charges, even a small amount like the south. The 9 odd quid per item in England is excessive. 1-2 quid per item here would be enough to stop people ordering and hoarding every month "because I'm entitled to it"

Mario

Quote from: LC on January 16, 2024, 05:03:24 PMWonder what the GDP of the north is, I imagine it is pretty sh@t.

Never seems to be too many pharmaceutical and / or tech companies busting to get set up in NI and offering jobs at £40 -£50k+ salaries.
Pharmaceutical pay seems particularly low in NI, probably due to lack of competition but any tech role with a few years experience in Belfast will earn that level of Salary. Other jobs offering that level of salary in Belfast relatively early in careers would be accountancy, engineering, financial services, corporate law. These people would earn a lot more elsewhere which is a common argument for public sector strikes but the salary gap elsewhere is probably even bigger in the private sector, albeit from a higher base.

trailer

Quote from: RedHand88 on January 16, 2024, 07:31:08 PMQuestion. Would people want pay parity with England if it meant paying for prescriptions, water rates etc like they do there?

Happy to pay more if we get the same level of service. But we don't. We lag behind GB in every government department.

seafoid

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Quote from: trailer on January 17, 2024, 09:40:41 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 16, 2024, 07:31:08 PMQuestion. Would people want pay parity with England if it meant paying for prescriptions, water rates etc like they do there?

Happy to pay more if we get the same level of service. But we don't. We lag behind GB in every government department.
English and Welsh social spending is being squeezed unmercifully. Liverpool has just had to cut obesity care. Wales has to cut social services spending by £640m over 3 years. Neither Wales nor Merseyside have a fixed subvention from London. NI is luckier than people think.

Mikhail Prokhorov

shut the place down and be done with it

you get what you vote for and this is the outworking of things

of course the owc brigade will be outraged  ;D 

Eire90

should there not be a general strike with the demand they go back to stormont.

Eire90

Tories are not inconvienced by these strikes so will probably do nothing

Armagh18

Quote from: Eire90 on January 18, 2024, 09:04:41 AMshould there not be a general strike with the demand they go back to stormont.
Would make more sense

Eire90

dorothy on nolan show says its a disgrace they get 500 pound a week and they are moaning while she gets 150 a week

Armagh18

Quote from: Eire90 on January 18, 2024, 09:37:36 AMdorothy on nolan show says its a disgrace they get 500 pound a week and they are moaning while she gets 150 a week
What does Dorothy work at?