Dublin v Mayo 2020 All-Ireland final

[seafoid]

What happens when the sponsorship money is divided between counties and the Dubs decide to start fundraising?

Dublin shouldn't be getting 1m a year from the GAA. They should be financially self-sufficient so should be funding GPOs exclusively themselves and that's where their fundraising money can go.

Tell you what. Lets change approach. Lets treat it like soccer. Every county gets their home league gate and the 40/20/40 split on championship games.

So if Dublin raise it they keep it. Same for your county.

But you know that only makes Dublin richer. You know that doesn't resolve anything, only makes the problems worse. And you think that's sustainable?

Dublin is the main funds generator for the GAA. If people object to Dublin getting a fraction of what they bring in lets change that. What you raise you keep. The levelest of the level. No more whining about favoritism

Have you got some stats to back that up?

[Lar Naparka]

What happens when the sponsorship money is divided between counties and the Dubs decide to start fundraising?

Dublin shouldn't be getting 1m a year from the GAA. They should be financially self-sufficient so should be funding GPOs exclusively themselves and that's where their fundraising money can go.

Tell you what. Lets change approach. Lets treat it like soccer. Every county gets their home league gate and the 40/20/40 split on championship games.

So if Dublin raise it they keep it. Same for your county.

Hold on a minute. 
Compare what Dublin contributes to the  GAA coffers with what its gets back in development grants and you'll get a more accurate idea of Dublin's real worth to the Association.

[Maroon Manc]

Its another year of going round in circles, nothing has changed and there wasn't even a serious debate on the Sunday game so it will be another few years before its brought up again on TV.

The GAA don't like bad publicity, sponsors and broadcaster don't like it either so a social media campaign boycotting Dublin games on the TV would be a start.

[TheGreatest]

Its another year of going round in circles, nothing has changed and there wasn't even a serious debate on the Sunday game so it will be another few years before its brought up again on TV.

The GAA don't like bad publicity, sponsors and broadcaster don't like it either so a social media campaign boycotting Dublin games on the TV would be a start.

almost 1 Million viewers on Saturday.

[Chimley]

Its another year of going round in circles, nothing has changed and there wasn't even a serious debate on the Sunday game so it will be another few years before its brought up again on TV.

The GAA don't like bad publicity, sponsors and broadcaster don't like it either so a social media campaign boycotting Dublin games on the TV would be a start.

almost 1 Million viewers on Saturday.

I wonder how many were left at the final whistle?

[J70]

Its another year of going round in circles, nothing has changed and there wasn't even a serious debate on the Sunday game so it will be another few years before its brought up again on TV.

The GAA don't like bad publicity, sponsors and broadcaster don't like it either so a social media campaign boycotting Dublin games on the TV would be a start.

When they've won their tenth in a row, 12th in 14 years, every Leinster since 2010, and crowds and advertising are started to dwindle, maybe then the penny will start to drop.

[larryin89]

Dublin 1/2 to win seven in a row .

[Maroon Manc]

Its another year of going round in circles, nothing has changed and there wasn't even a serious debate on the Sunday game so it will be another few years before its brought up again on TV.

The GAA don't like bad publicity, sponsors and broadcaster don't like it either so a social media campaign boycotting Dublin games on the TV would be a start.

When they've won their tenth in a row, 12th in 14 years, every Leinster since 2010, and crowds and advertising are started to dwindle, maybe then the penny will start to drop.

Too late by then, they'll be well on their way to winning 14 out of the next 15 by then.

There's a strong chance Fenton will never lose a championship game.

[BennyCake]

Its another year of going round in circles, nothing has changed and there wasn't even a serious debate on the Sunday game so it will be another few years before its brought up again on TV.

The GAA don't like bad publicity, sponsors and broadcaster don't like it either so a social media campaign boycotting Dublin games on the TV would be a start.

That's why they brought in Tier 2. Sweep those pesky lower teams under the carpet, don't fund them, and repeat the line "that's just their level".

If they want to progress to compete with the bigger boys, then get the finger out ya lazy hoors.

[twohands!!!]

Its another year of going round in circles, nothing has changed and there wasn't even a serious debate on the Sunday game so it will be another few years before its brought up again on TV.

The GAA don't like bad publicity, sponsors and broadcaster don't like it either so a social media campaign boycotting Dublin games on the TV would be a start.

almost 1 Million viewers on Saturday.

So a drop of a over 100,000 [about 10%] compared to the previous year.

Red flag for the GAA, especially when viewership for pretty much all the other GAA games is up this year.

https://www.the42.ie/all-ireland-final-replay-viewing-figures-4811265-Sep2019/

[Rossfan]

Non Dublin games are interesting because there's a doubt about the outcome or a chance of a surprise.
Dublin games including the AI Final are foregone conclusions

[macdanger2]

I recall the u21 semi finals 2014.
While Dublin were playing Cavan we had John Nolan making notes in a jotter.
When we were playing Cork there were a scatter of Dublin backroom  lads banging stuff non stop into lap tops.

Pro sports make a point of ensuring that competition is the focus. The GAA doesn't. Dublin has a bigger pick, more money, more advanced training facilities, better coaching, better stats.
It's not sport when one team is so far ahead.

Dublin has a bigger pick - Yes - always had, always will
More money - If you talking Senior Football team, spend in and around the same as the top 3/4 teams.
More advanced training facilities - Not so sure about that, If your talking Dublin Senior footballers, they use Innisfails GAA club for a large part of their training. Iv played there, the pitch is lobsided, the Facilities not great, small changing rooms etc. Id say its used to keep them grounded more so than everything else.
Better Coaching - Not so sure about that either, structures yes, define, is Jayo a better forward coach than say Donaghy will be with Armagh.
Better stats - Again, unproven, modernized.
Makeshift Gym in Parnell Park.

There are a few counties that have better set ups than the Dubs.

The piece in bold is true on the face of it - it omits the fact however that a county like Mayo spends ~50% of the senior team cost on travel expenses so Dublin in effect spend twice as much on team preparation

[MayoBuck]

I recall the u21 semi finals 2014.
While Dublin were playing Cavan we had John Nolan making notes in a jotter.
When we were playing Cork there were a scatter of Dublin backroom  lads banging stuff non stop into lap tops.

Pro sports make a point of ensuring that competition is the focus. The GAA doesn't. Dublin has a bigger pick, more money, more advanced training facilities, better coaching, better stats.
It's not sport when one team is so far ahead.

Dublin has a bigger pick - Yes - always had, always will
More money - If you talking Senior Football team, spend in and around the same as the top 3/4 teams.
More advanced training facilities - Not so sure about that, If your talking Dublin Senior footballers, they use Innisfails GAA club for a large part of their training. Iv played there, the pitch is lobsided, the Facilities not great, small changing rooms etc. Id say its used to keep them grounded more so than everything else.
Better Coaching - Not so sure about that either, structures yes, define, is Jayo a better forward coach than say Donaghy will be with Armagh.
Better stats - Again, unproven, modernized.
Makeshift Gym in Parnell Park.

There are a few counties that have better set ups than the Dubs.

The piece in bold is true on the face of it - it omits the fact however that a county like Mayo spends ~50% of the senior team cost on travel expenses so Dublin in effect spend twice as much on team preparation

Yes but somehow it keeps getting brought up.

Mayo's senior team expenses are down by 700k in 2020. Simply because Croke Park are covering mileage expenses for everyone and there was no travelling to new york for a championship game.

[seafoid]

Non Dublin games are interesting because there's a doubt about the outcome or a chance of a surprise.
Dublin games including the AI Final are foregone conclusions

There was very little discussion of the elephant in the room after the aif. In the Sindo Colm O'Rourke and Brolly treated it as a normal match. Same in the Irish Times and on TSG/RTE

There was far more criticism after the semi and the Leinster Final.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1330254398535176204

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335712179580973063⁰0

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1122/1179771-orourke-meath-humiliation-bad-reflection-on-leinster/

Maybe if Meath were being ritually humiliated in the AIF he might be different.

I think that all of the journos behave because it's one of the marquee days in Irish sport and the biggest date in the GAA calendar, a day that drives a big chunk of GAA revenue, when hundreds of thousands of casual fans tune in as well as a massive advertisement for the GAA.

Nobody yet wants to say that the golden goose is no longer breathing. So the nonsense continues

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-dublin-as-far-ahead-of-the-pack-as-they-ever-were-1.4443145

When Durcan had to go off, you'd imagine that if Horan thought Keith Higgins was anywhere near the player he was, that's where he'd have turned. When Brian Howard was having such an impact off the bench at midfield, it looked a ready-made job for Tom Parsons. Horan obviously doesn't see them that way now – which is fair enough, since he sees far more of them than anybody.
It does say something about the Mayo panel, all the same. The team that eventually beats Dublin will need to have match-winners coming off the bench. Mayo seem further away than ever on that score.
They gave the Dubs a game on Saturday night. But that's not the same as actually threatening to win it. On that score, Dublin are as far ahead as they ever were.